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Furious about family wedding abroad

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Creamandjamorjamandcream · 02/09/2024 16:39

A close family member has lived on the other side of the word for the last five years. He met someone over there who seems great (we’ve only actually met her once when they spent some time in Europe) and last year he proposed!

We have been discussing flights and accommodation for a few weeks. We are a family of 4 with a 4 year old and an 18 month old so it was always going to be tricky financially and practically to travel. They live in a major city but the wedding will be about two hours away in a beautiful rural location. We have booked flights and accommodation for the wedding and the two weeks either side to explore.

Last week we received a formal invitation which stipulated that it was an adults only wedding. I immediately contacted my brother to make sure that our kids were not included in the ban - seeing as he knew we had booked flights for us all and this had never been mentioned. Unfortunately he said that our children were not welcome at the wedding however his wife to be had the details of some baby sitters in the city.

I don’t know what to do!! I am furious that we have paid so much money for accommodation and travel which I never would have if I’d have known our children weren’t invited!! I feel very uncomfortable with leaving the children two hours away with a stranger overnight however if we take them with us we have no other alternative as everyone we know in the country will be attending the wedding. I’ve asked if they can be babysat in the hotel on the wedding site as a compromise but have been told no as ‘they don’t want any kids there at all’.

Please help me with what I should do!! I feel like I’m too angry to think straight.

OP posts:
Snowflakeslayer · 03/09/2024 21:22

Creamandjamorjamandcream · 02/09/2024 16:39

A close family member has lived on the other side of the word for the last five years. He met someone over there who seems great (we’ve only actually met her once when they spent some time in Europe) and last year he proposed!

We have been discussing flights and accommodation for a few weeks. We are a family of 4 with a 4 year old and an 18 month old so it was always going to be tricky financially and practically to travel. They live in a major city but the wedding will be about two hours away in a beautiful rural location. We have booked flights and accommodation for the wedding and the two weeks either side to explore.

Last week we received a formal invitation which stipulated that it was an adults only wedding. I immediately contacted my brother to make sure that our kids were not included in the ban - seeing as he knew we had booked flights for us all and this had never been mentioned. Unfortunately he said that our children were not welcome at the wedding however his wife to be had the details of some baby sitters in the city.

I don’t know what to do!! I am furious that we have paid so much money for accommodation and travel which I never would have if I’d have known our children weren’t invited!! I feel very uncomfortable with leaving the children two hours away with a stranger overnight however if we take them with us we have no other alternative as everyone we know in the country will be attending the wedding. I’ve asked if they can be babysat in the hotel on the wedding site as a compromise but have been told no as ‘they don’t want any kids there at all’.

Please help me with what I should do!! I feel like I’m too angry to think straight.

Definitely cancel the trip, it’s clear and obvious that it won’t work for you, and anyone thinking otherwise is an incredibly selfish douchebag. I would be furious with them for their reply. Would definitely be cancelling, not even a question!! I’m actually mad for you just reading your post OP!

Petlover9 · 03/09/2024 21:24

OP see if you can re-arrange the booking so that it is to a place where you can enjoy a family holiday. If it is a large tour company, write to the MD and explain what has happened. I would forget about the wedding after all they "forgot " to tell you children were banned 💐

pinkroses79 · 03/09/2024 21:37

I would be furious since you say he knew you'd booked flights for the children. To be honest I'd be so annoyed that my own sibling did this that I'd probably just turn up with them anyway. At the very least I would insist they were babysat in at the wedding venue, so I could go and check they were ok. There isn't anything he can do about that.

Or if you can get a full refund, I would do that. I would never go to an overseas wedding whilst leaving my young children at home.

HBiz · 03/09/2024 22:05

I feel like it would be weird for them to invite you all and then pull the rug once you’ve booked tickets.

Did they say your kids were invited or did you assume and crack on with booking everything before receiving full details/getting an actual invite?

If they’ve said you were all invited and then changed their minds, that’s terrible behaviour, but seems an odd thing for someone to do!

RampantIvy · 03/09/2024 22:14

Just how fragile are the egos of these bridezillas that they feel they would be upstaged by small children?

Gonk123 · 03/09/2024 22:27

Don’t go to the wedding and leave your other half and kids stuck in a room upstairs! That’s not fair. If they havent got the decency to allow the kids to go after making such effort to go, they don’t deserve your presence in my opinion.

Blueroses99 · 03/09/2024 22:32

InterIgnis · 03/09/2024 20:24

Hotel babysitter or local babysitter - same principle applies. If OP isn’t comfortable with that then obviously that’s her choice, but other people can and do use them when travelling abroad so it probably didn’t occur to the brother that it would be a problem.

People do not book overnight babysitters two hours away when they are travelling abroad. Two hours away is not local.

InterIgnis · 03/09/2024 22:43

Blueroses99 · 03/09/2024 22:32

People do not book overnight babysitters two hours away when they are travelling abroad. Two hours away is not local.

Local to the area they’ve travelled to.

Yes, they do. You not having experience of it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen. Perhaps there are cultural differences at play, but it’s not uncommon where I’m from, or where I live now.

InterIgnis · 03/09/2024 22:45

RampantIvy · 03/09/2024 22:14

Just how fragile are the egos of these bridezillas that they feel they would be upstaged by small children?

Who says she doesn’t want children there because she would feel upstaged?

and who said this was driven by the bride? Not sure why she’s getting the blame.

Gcsunnyside23 · 03/09/2024 22:51

Creamandjamorjamandcream · 02/09/2024 16:58

Thank you everyone. I think I needed to rant to get the upset out of my system.

I will take a few days to calm down and chat with him again. I agree that the best option is to have the children at the hotel the weddings at with my partner staying up in the room with them. If that’s not an option, I think we will probably have to decline the invite all together and get whatever money back we can.

This has been very cathartic. I appreciate you all taking the time to reply.

Sounds like the best compromise but if he won't budge then it's on him if you don't attend. What has your parents made of it?

SerafinasGoose · 03/09/2024 22:53

Marylou62 · 03/09/2024 13:32

Said with great respect but this is simply not true.

I'm a fully qualified and very experienced nanny/childminder of nearly 40 years and I have looked after many children that I've only just met..many for all day, some over night too.

All ages from almost newborn to early teens.

Some have been emergencies but many have been booked because the parents wanted childcare for whatever reason...

You won't get nannies saying that parents are not worthy if they choose to do this.

It's a lot more common than you think.

I'm not presenting my view as a truism. It's an opinion. I'm not questioning your credentials or capability, nor your veracity in stating that a great many parents are adopting this as a parenting practice. I'm unsurprised.

Given the question is hardly disinterested, then it isn't surprising that nannies might not be of the same opinion.

Nonetheless, it remains mine.

Codlingmoths · 03/09/2024 22:54

InterIgnis · 03/09/2024 22:43

Local to the area they’ve travelled to.

Yes, they do. You not having experience of it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen. Perhaps there are cultural differences at play, but it’s not uncommon where I’m from, or where I live now.

Edited

Ok, but it is totally absolutely unheard of in my world. We’ve all travelled a lot, but I don’t know anybody who would even consider going to a different country and leaving your children 2 hours away with a stranger babysitting.

RampantIvy · 03/09/2024 23:08

InterIgnis · 03/09/2024 22:45

Who says she doesn’t want children there because she would feel upstaged?

and who said this was driven by the bride? Not sure why she’s getting the blame.

Ah. This was in response to another poster.

FancyHelper · 03/09/2024 23:43

Slack off the wedding and just go on holiday to the place you’ve booked. What a wanker he sounds, he knew you’d booked for your kids to attend

InterIgnis · 03/09/2024 23:44

Codlingmoths · 03/09/2024 22:54

Ok, but it is totally absolutely unheard of in my world. We’ve all travelled a lot, but I don’t know anybody who would even consider going to a different country and leaving your children 2 hours away with a stranger babysitting.

Okay, you not being familiar with it doesn’t mean ‘no one does it’. They do.

Psychologymam · 03/09/2024 23:46

InterIgnis · 03/09/2024 22:43

Local to the area they’ve travelled to.

Yes, they do. You not having experience of it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen. Perhaps there are cultural differences at play, but it’s not uncommon where I’m from, or where I live now.

Edited

Genuinely - you know lots of people who book complete strangers to look after their very small children hours from where they will be based?? Where are you from or live that this is common? I’m curious as it just seems so alien to me from a safety or attachment perspective - I can’t imagine anyone doing it and I’ve lived in a few countries.

Codlingmoths · 04/09/2024 00:18

InterIgnis · 03/09/2024 23:44

Okay, you not being familiar with it doesn’t mean ‘no one does it’. They do.

I’m just highlighting that it’s totally unthinkable to many many people, clearly including the op. So it doesn’t matter that some people somewhere do it. The ops brother is not a different culture from her, and it’s a totally unreasonable ask for their family. That is the cultural context that applies here.

Codlingmoths · 04/09/2024 00:21

Psychologymam · 03/09/2024 23:46

Genuinely - you know lots of people who book complete strangers to look after their very small children hours from where they will be based?? Where are you from or live that this is common? I’m curious as it just seems so alien to me from a safety or attachment perspective - I can’t imagine anyone doing it and I’ve lived in a few countries.

In a foreign country too…

InterIgnis · 04/09/2024 00:29

Psychologymam · 03/09/2024 23:46

Genuinely - you know lots of people who book complete strangers to look after their very small children hours from where they will be based?? Where are you from or live that this is common? I’m curious as it just seems so alien to me from a safety or attachment perspective - I can’t imagine anyone doing it and I’ve lived in a few countries.

I know people that have booked hotel and/or local babysitters whilst on holiday, yes, some to go on day trips out of the area. Some have indeed been British. I live in the US, but have also lived in the UK.

InterIgnis · 04/09/2024 00:32

Codlingmoths · 04/09/2024 00:18

I’m just highlighting that it’s totally unthinkable to many many people, clearly including the op. So it doesn’t matter that some people somewhere do it. The ops brother is not a different culture from her, and it’s a totally unreasonable ask for their family. That is the cultural context that applies here.

So? Clearly it isn’t unthinkable to the brother, or to everyone. If it doesn’t work for OP then fine, it doesn’t have to, but that doesn’t mean that no one does it.

Codlingmoths · 04/09/2024 01:08

InterIgnis · 04/09/2024 00:32

So? Clearly it isn’t unthinkable to the brother, or to everyone. If it doesn’t work for OP then fine, it doesn’t have to, but that doesn’t mean that no one does it.

I think in this case you’re confusing ‘he thinks this is a totally acceptable thing to do with your children and will with his own one day’ with ‘it hadn’t occurred to him to give a shit about someone else’s kids, dump them wherethefuckever but don’t bring them to MY wedding’

InterIgnis · 04/09/2024 01:21

Codlingmoths · 04/09/2024 01:08

I think in this case you’re confusing ‘he thinks this is a totally acceptable thing to do with your children and will with his own one day’ with ‘it hadn’t occurred to him to give a shit about someone else’s kids, dump them wherethefuckever but don’t bring them to MY wedding’

Perhaps, perhaps not. It’s not like he’s here to ask.

Blueroses99 · 04/09/2024 01:22

InterIgnis · 04/09/2024 00:29

I know people that have booked hotel and/or local babysitters whilst on holiday, yes, some to go on day trips out of the area. Some have indeed been British. I live in the US, but have also lived in the UK.

I question the age of the children in these instances, were they really as young as 18 months? And you say day trips but did they include overnights?

I think you are being generous to OPs brother, it’s far more likely that he is suggesting this plan out of naivety/ignorance rather than because he genuinely thinks it’s normal.

YellowAsteroid · 04/09/2024 01:23

Codlingmoths · 04/09/2024 00:21

In a foreign country too…

I’m assuming it’s Australia or New Zealand. Perfectly civilised countries! And English speaking.

OoLaaLaa · 04/09/2024 01:31

What an arse. I would ring on the wedding morning and tell him you ain't coming, or take the kids and say the baby sitter let you down

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