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Would you assume that your toddler was invited?

150 replies

NotCamping · 28/08/2024 16:52

I’m not yet a parent so I’m curious to know if parents would assume their 18 month old was invited.

I’m neither party in this scenario btw but one of the attendees.

The host arranged an afternoon in a restaurant which serves themed cocktails(or mocktails)with a tasting menu.

One guest brought her 18 month old son. It’s not a child free venue as such but neither is it at all child friendly and there are no children’s menus. it was 5pm and she wasn’t asked about the baby but assumed that he was welcome as the host didn’t state that he was.

So I’m curious to know if you assume if your children are invited if it isn’t specified that they are or if it’s the host’s responsibility to make it clear?

TIA

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yeesh · 28/08/2024 18:32

of course not and I would be gutted if someone else brought their baby

AsYouWiiiiiiiiiiiiish · 28/08/2024 18:33

No, the very nature of the event screams "child free".

I also think that having kids at events like these ruins it and so it's thoughtless towards the other attendees

WorkCleanRepeat · 28/08/2024 18:35

I'd assume something like this was child free unless explicitly stated otherwise.

MammaTo · 28/08/2024 18:44

Would I fuck bring my baby, let me loose on the cocktails baby free. I say this as a parent of an 18 month old.

Sassybooklover · 28/08/2024 18:46

It's not the type of event that I would personally consider taking an 18 month old. To be honest, as a parent you need to use some common sense. A cocktail tasting session, isn't particularly child friendly. If I was in a position that I didn't have childcare, then I would have explained to the host and declined the invitation. In fairness, you wouldn't expect the host to have to advise those with children that it was a child-free event, it should be obvious. My moto is 'if in doubt, ask'. My husband and I were invited to a event a couple of years ago, our son's name wasn't on the invitation (he was 11 at the time). I assumed he wasn't invited, but my husband asked his friend who was the host and my assumptions were correct, he wasn't invited.

Ottersmith · 28/08/2024 18:48

Well it depends. With my group of friends I have been assuming that my child is invited then I get annoyed when it's not child friendly. I think they should explicitly state either way because my default would be to bring him as we come as a package now.

GreyCarpet · 28/08/2024 18:54

No. It wouldn't even occur to me that children would he invited and, as a parent, I used to get really annoyed if people brought their little darling along to obviously adult only events. And, finally, I wouldn't go to one that children were invited to.

NotCamping · 28/08/2024 19:18

Thanks all.

I appreciate the responses.

The toddler definitely wasn’t explicitly invited and it wasn’t discussed before she accepted the invitation.

She does have a husband who helps with the baby.

The toddler mostly sat in his buggy but understandably got bored and fed up and wanted to walk around(which is fair enough)

I tend to be asked to be the organiser, though I wasn’t on this occasion, and it’s making me think that to be fair to all parties that I should make it explicitly clear if kids are invited.

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ConstanceWilliam · 28/08/2024 19:19

Sometimes an event away from the kiddos is needed !

NotCamping · 28/08/2024 19:20

Also We felt rushed out of there and I think that’s because the restaurant staff really didn’t want the toddler there. They were obviously taken aback by his presence.

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SquatWeightaMinute · 28/08/2024 19:22

I would assume a child wasn’t invited to a cocktail session.

Pieandchips999 · 28/08/2024 19:25

Oh my god a toddler in a cocktail class with all the hazards involved. Glasses, alcohol, busy environment and no space to play or child friendly activities? Of course not

Elliesmumma · 28/08/2024 19:26

LOL! I wouldn’t ever assume a toddler was invited to a cocktail event. That sounds very girls night/hen do. Maybe it was an excuse to get away early… I don’t know the thinking here.

Elliesmumma · 28/08/2024 19:29

Pieandchips999 · 28/08/2024 19:25

Oh my god a toddler in a cocktail class with all the hazards involved. Glasses, alcohol, busy environment and no space to play or child friendly activities? Of course not

Plus drunken adults. I hope mum was on the mocktails at the very least.

Procrastinates · 28/08/2024 19:31

Ottersmith · 28/08/2024 18:48

Well it depends. With my group of friends I have been assuming that my child is invited then I get annoyed when it's not child friendly. I think they should explicitly state either way because my default would be to bring him as we come as a package now.

You'd really need someone to explicitly state your toddler wasn't invited to a cocktail evening? Surely you would think it an inappropriate environment for your child and therefore not bring them. Hmm

BabaYetu · 28/08/2024 19:31

I’d have sent the CF home again, or asked her to rejoin us when she’d given her toddler to her husband.

There is no way at all an 18 month old is invited to a tasting menu and cocktails. Anyone who thinks it’s ok to bring their child to something like that off their trolley.

The poor organiser!

Londonrach1 · 28/08/2024 19:32

No!

KerryBlues · 28/08/2024 19:32

SeashellCandle · 28/08/2024 18:23

I don't think she did it out of rudeness or CFery but because she simply had no childcare available. Willing to bet that she's a single parent or has a workaholic or controlling/abusive partner. She probably couldn't afford a babysitter or reached the max limit on how ofter she could get her parents to watch her kid. There's a lot of speculation going on here regarding how "welcome" or "invited" a toddler is. Most mums are under no illusions that their toddler is never explicitly welcome at a public venue. The only ones that take their kids to adult getogethers are those who really have no choice or "pick me" women who want to show everyone they can still do everything in their life despite kids.

She did have a choice. She could have done what anyone else would have done in those circumstances, and cancelled.

LightDrizzle · 28/08/2024 19:32

Absolutely not and be pissed off at someone else bringing theirs.

Smartiepants79 · 28/08/2024 19:34

Umm no, I can’t believe anyone is that oblivious to think you’d bring a toddler to an evening cocktail party.

BabaYetu · 28/08/2024 19:34

Ottersmith · 28/08/2024 18:48

Well it depends. With my group of friends I have been assuming that my child is invited then I get annoyed when it's not child friendly. I think they should explicitly state either way because my default would be to bring him as we come as a package now.

You have to be joking! (Please gods, be joking)

Of course you aren’t a package. The world doesn’t have to be child friendly just because you had a kid. Your child isn’t invited unless you’ve checked he is invited.

KerryBlues · 28/08/2024 19:35

Ottersmith · 28/08/2024 18:48

Well it depends. With my group of friends I have been assuming that my child is invited then I get annoyed when it's not child friendly. I think they should explicitly state either way because my default would be to bring him as we come as a package now.

Bloody hell 😬

Icanttakethisanymore · 28/08/2024 19:36

What did he think of the tasting menu?

Createausername1970 · 28/08/2024 19:39

Ottersmith · 28/08/2024 18:48

Well it depends. With my group of friends I have been assuming that my child is invited then I get annoyed when it's not child friendly. I think they should explicitly state either way because my default would be to bring him as we come as a package now.

To the park, maybe. But to a cocktail tasting evening? Why?

BrightLightTonight · 28/08/2024 19:39

No - adult only event