Mums of sons. (Hard hat on for this)

[Daniagainagainagainagain]

Apologies for the grabby title. I've NC'd for this as I have a few running threads currently with very outing and personal details on.

Anyway back to the point.
I see SO many threads on here where the topic about the thread is about a guy. It's not even necessarily bad about the bloke in question, but so many many posters just seem to hate men. Not give them the benefit of the doubt. Tear them a new arsehole for merely posting on MN asking for advice. There was a thread recently about a woman seeing a really nice guy, a gentlemen as she described him where he had been separated for literally YEARS but wasn't divorced. Turns out there were cultural differences meaning divorce in that country is very rare. People kept saying 'throw him back in the sea' 'he's a liar' one poster called him a wanker.. there was no evidence that he was a wanker and the OP seemed happy with the guy. Just more people clutching for their moment to berate men. It's always the guys fault on here no matter what.

It's always the same posters more often than not berating men, shooting them down, and just hating them. I wonder, do these women posters have sons? If so, do you think your sons are exempt from such awful insults because 'my boy would never'? I can't imagine these posters talking about their sons like that. So do you pick and choose, is it one rule for your sons and one for all other men?

Before it labelled being 'cool' I have just got out of a 10 year abusive relationship where ex cheated multiple times to the point of police involvement. I am not naive to think some of these guys deserve what they get.

AIBU? To think there's huge double standards? To call strangers with no reason to, wankers, but to also think the son shines out of your son's arses?

I know I'll probably ruffle some feathers but I'd genuinely like to know. And yes I have DC.

Cross posted and have seen that it was indeed OP with a name change.

FYI OP your deleted posts weren't all removed because they were TAATs.

I imagine the one with you name calling and using a pretty outdated term for a woman without sense was removed because it wasn't in the spirit of the site.

'Creaming your pants'
'The things you lot get wet over'

For someone who isn't an MRA, you don't half talk like one.

Yes. Women talk like that all the time. In between hating men and making false accusations about them

How many usernames do you have OP?

@sarfwestlondonmassive only has two posts to its name, both on this thread.

I already explained where you said it.

But let’s try again. A poster said that as women raise children if men are arseholes they need to look at themselves.

Someone pointed out that kids have 2 parents (unless one died) and if it’s only the woman that’s raising them maybe the issue is that men are stepping enough and actually parenting their kids.

You jumped in at the defence of men to say ‘well the men are out working’ when it was pointed out that many women also work you started saying ‘I know some sahm’.

But men working doesn’t stop them being an engaged parent. So what was your point, when you argued against someone saying raising kids was both parents responsibility, by pointing out men work?

But then you didn’t address that several posters do in fact know women who have been murdered by men, specially their husbands or partners.

Just like you didn’t address anyone who answered your ‘my brother got accused of assault and nothing happened to him, but it could have cause it was a woman’ post.

The sad thing is a lot of mums (and some dads) like this do have sons and treat them poorly because they're boys. I've seen it so many times. Their hatred of men spills over onto their sons. Makes me sad.

‘Hard hat’ not working then?! You have had so many comments deleted I see.

OP is one classy poster ;-)

I hate people who abuse others. People who rape. People who let their partner do all the housework and childcare. People who abuse their partners financially. People who walk away from their kids. People who sexually harass others in the workplace. People who commit violent robberies. People who urinante over public monuments. People who contribute nothing to family life and accuse their partners of nagging. People who get drunk and pull all-nighters but don’t bother informing their partners who then worry at home. People who murder.

I don’t hate ‘men’. But the vast majority of people who do the above are men, and I will always point it out. As would my son and husband.

They get a bit over excited when women engage with them and they can't control themselves and stay in role. They are however idiot utile as the poor arguments serve as a vehicle for women to make important points in response, and their offensive behaviour damages their own cause.

you're creaming your pants

shows how much time you obviously have on your hands.

Calm down a bit love

These kinds of rejoinder are made by people who don’t have the capacity for intelligent debate and have given up. Everyone who is contributing here clearly has had time to post. So what. OP this could have been an interesting but spirited debate. As the thread has progressed, you have shown your true unimpressive colours.

I await the flounce. Maybe have a few weeks to reflect and have another go.

That's heartbreaking..

It goes hand in hand with all the sex disappointment threads on here as it's nearly always boys.

There's many threads on here too where GP leave out a GC and I've found it's nearly always boys too. Boys are great and I'd love to have one of my own one day.

Sure, but do you know any country in the world where male babies are killed at birth?

In far more cultures than not, boys are prized and yearned for and girls are decidedly not.

I mean, it was the same not too long ago in the UK amongst certain people.

We need to have a bit of perspective here.

Treating ANY child poorly due to their sex is terrible, but boys and men do not have it worse in any respect.

Yes I agree but I was talking from a UK perspective.

Historically boys have been prized in the UK and girls regarded as a burden or useless also.

Times have changed a bit in recent years, but I think people are only noticing because it's a difference to what it used to be.

Most people don't even notice when someone says "I'm so glad I'm having a boy".

But I have heard plenty of people (in real life) curious or questioning when the reverse is said.
Not in a mean way, but just that they haven't considered someone would prefer a girl.

I absolutely acknowledge that maybe some parents treat boys poorly, but in my observations it is the exception not the rule.

I also guarantee more girls are sexually abused or treated as extensions of the mother in regards to housework and caring for the males in the family than boys are treated badly simply for being boys.

I have personal outing information on my account so I regularly change my name.

OP, still waiting for you to post the name of even one of ‘the same posters over and over again posting at how much they hate men.’

You just can’t do it, can you?

You’re clearly using sock puppet accounts, that much has been proven already. A simple NC is not what you’ve been doing, as much as you may protest. Why? Because posting from different names to one thread is not possible otherwise.

As for it being a ‘common mistake’, I’m afraid you’re alone there. Using multiple accounts is against MN ToS for the very obvious reason that you can’t have a genuine conversation with someone who is using multiple fake accounts to respond to their own threads.

And lastly, a little tip for you. Women don’t go around discussing each other’s wetness. I know, shocking…

I have four sons. They get called out for bad behaviour - of course! I've taught them about respect and consent and hope with all my heart that they turn into decent men. I'm certainty not naively thinking they're perfect nor berating them simply for their sex.

OP mentioned male suicide. I'm not sure about UK stats but in Australia 19 in every 100,000 male deaths are recorded as suicide - you'd think that number is accurate as far as reporting goes.

One in every four women is subject to domestic abuse. Probably that figure is under reported, as so many women put up with abuse without reporting/pressing charges.

So, with that data, a man has a .00019% chance of dying by suicide.

A woman has a 25% chance of being the victim of domestic abuse.

It's a huge problem. Just look at the threads on here, the awful treatment women and children are subjected to. The financial abuse ones get me, men who hoard their money while their partner has to pay all of their (joint!) children's expenses. Now that is heartbreaking.

That's really informative and a really good POV to the discussion.

The statistics for violence against women and girls is absolutely awful and it needs more traction for sure.

The fact that you and a few others are getting all horny over a 'gotcha' moment

how about you firstly, calm the fuck down

You're really not doing yourself any favours here. Your use of crude sexual language to try to shut me and others down, and the level of rage you’re displaying when called out speaks volumes about you. It’s a pretty common response to women who won’t shhhh.

If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck…

Feel free to rage reply further but I’m done spending time on you.

OP sounds like a man. Quelle surprise.

Deleted again @Daniagainagainagainagain Such a shame after you put so much effort into a long passive-aggressive (nonsense) explanation about how you forgot to change your username back!

It’s not that anyone is super-invested (at least not to the extent of, oh I don’t know - making a sock-puppet account to chat to themselves…); it’s just that what you’re saying is a direct lie and yet you think you’re styling it out. This has already been explained to you: it’s impossible to post under different names on the same thread. You are doing it from different accounts. Not accidental. And quite sad.

YABU YABU YABU 🙄🙄