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To ask you, if you despise boarding school, what exactly you think goes on there?

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RainyDaysAndMondaysNeverGetMeDown · 25/08/2024 21:57

As the title says, if you are one of the many anti-boarding school parents on here, what exactly do you think happens to children at boarding school?

And yes, I am a parent of boarders, having sworn I'd never be.
But having seen how my DCs have thrived (in a school 20 minutes away!) I'm curious to see how much of the perception is reality.

OP posts:
Moreofthesamenothanks · 26/08/2024 18:11

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 17:15

  • Since 2012 at least 125 people have been accused by children of recent sex attacks at boarding schools.
  • There are at least 31 ongoing investigations.

https://www.itv.com/news/2018-02-18/shocking-scale-of-sexual-abuse-at-uk-boarding-schools-revealed-by-itv-documentary

Wow that's awful

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 26/08/2024 18:20

I dated a man recently in his 40s who had a bit of a breakdown with me saying he was so messed up as he was sexually abused by his housemaster at boarding school

That's what I'd be afraid of

PaterPower · 26/08/2024 18:26

SoTiredNeedHoliday · 26/08/2024 11:34

@MapleTreeValley that is a life lesson, not to run from difficult situations. Additionally they do have their own space they can retire to and a lot of support from others their own age to help negotiate this.

You're negative is actually a huge positive

Maybe in the school you went to / your kids go to. In the boarding school I endured, there was no space available to “retire to” (very twee way of putting it, btw).

All the dorms were multiple occupancy and, ironically perhaps, the younger you were the more people there’d be in your dorm. So at the 10-11 year old stage (common for a lot of boarders to start then, if they hadn’t been shipped off at 7) the smallest dorm had six in. Mine had ten and even the sixth formers had to share with at least one other.

The sit down toilets may as well have been open cubicles, because the gaps under the doors were so big, and there were no other private spaces available to the kids.

CarmelaBrunella · 26/08/2024 18:28

HuntingtonHaven18 · 26/08/2024 17:50

@CarmelaBrunella well yes and no. It depended on whether my father was liked or not (students and other teachers) . I did have some unfair treatment by some teachers (not in the boarding house) but think that could have happened in any school. That is a whole other debate - whether it is ok to have your children at the school where you work…

Yes, but you weren't away from your parents - your Dad was there. It's different.

Hoppinggreen · 26/08/2024 18:33

CarmelaBrunella · 26/08/2024 18:28

Yes, but you weren't away from your parents - your Dad was there. It's different.

Exactly, there was at least 1 parent there. I was at school with the DC of staff and they got the best of both worlds. Boarding "fun" with friends etc and then home to the onsite House Parents accommodation to spend the evening/night with their actual parents.
A very different experience to sharing a dorm and being raised by people who, however great they were, were doing it for money not love.

CarmelaBrunella · 26/08/2024 18:49

Hoppinggreen · 26/08/2024 18:33

Exactly, there was at least 1 parent there. I was at school with the DC of staff and they got the best of both worlds. Boarding "fun" with friends etc and then home to the onsite House Parents accommodation to spend the evening/night with their actual parents.
A very different experience to sharing a dorm and being raised by people who, however great they were, were doing it for money not love.

Exactly.

6pence · 26/08/2024 19:00

LoquaciousPineapple · 26/08/2024 08:53

But don't you think it's sad that those children were in a situation where they were begging to go to boarding school? That their lives with their parents weren't happy enough to want to stay with them. That their parents prioritised their careers and being an "expat" over providing a stable life for their children where they didn't beg to be sent away? Would you nod along if neglectful parents said “my kids were begging to go into foster care and now they’re thriving!”? Or would you still consider them terrible people for creating a situation where the kids preferred to be sent into care?

The neglect is parents putting things (in this case their careers/living as expats) above their children's wellbeing. You're talking as if having a high powered career and being an expat is an unavoidable or reasonable reason to leave your children in the care of others. It's not, it's a choice the parents are making without prioritising their children. The point anti-boarding school people are making is that THAT is the neglect- prioritising those things over raising your children. They shouldn’t have had children if they weren’t willing to put their basic needs (a stable home life) first.

Edited

You’ve hit the nail on the head

CarmelaBrunella · 26/08/2024 19:01

@LoquaciousPineapple spot on.

Nadeed · 26/08/2024 19:18

@PerkyMintDeer That is horrific. I am so sorry you went through that. And terrible that one is now the Head of a boarding school.

JayJayEl · 26/08/2024 19:23

RainyDaysAndMondaysNeverGetMeDown · 25/08/2024 22:30

I totally agree.
Bedtime was a huge deal in our household when the DCs were younger. Stories and cuddles. Even now, when they're home, all DCs, regardless of whether they get home late (and they usually go to bed after us anyway) come to say goodnight.

If you agree with this, why did you send your children to boarding school? Even at 13 children should be seeing their parents most (all?) evenings.

You also commented further down about the school day ending at 18.15 (that's so late!!) and thus your children are not spending the majority of their time being cared for by strangers. Except, they don't come home at 18.15. So yes, they ARE spending the majority of their time being cared for by strangers. Regardless of how well you (think) you know their caregivers, they are people doing their job. They are not people who care for your children in the same way a family member does, and so they are strangers.

I genuinely think it's awful. Apologies if that is harsh, but you have asked for opinions. The fact that the school is literally 20 minutes away makes it even more so! Your children are just within reach, but during the week you only see them if they have a sports event or they're unwell?! I find that absolutely mind-blowing.

You also mentioned that extracurricular activities wouldn't be viable if your children didn't board, due to location. Curious as to why that is when you're only 20 minutes from where they're currently doing their extracurriculars?

Hoppinggreen · 26/08/2024 19:24

I remember when I was about 10 having a conversation with a Boarder at my school. He explained that he boarded because his father worked in Nigeria in the oil industry and there was no suitable school for him where his parents lived. I asked why his Dad couldn't change jobs and he sais that as he worked in oil he had to be overseas so then I asked what about his Mum. He replied that she lived with his Dad. I asked why she couldn't live in England and he didn't know.
I couldn't get my head around it at the time and now if DH had ever got a job abroad either we all would have gone or just him if there was no other option.
There is always a choice but some parents don't choose their children.

TizerorFizz · 26/08/2024 19:44

@Nadeed We live in a settlement of around 30 houses. I think I said earlier dc around me went to around 12 different schools. Not one in her year went to the outstanding catchment school. They went to a mix of other village schools and private ones.

At school we found dc were invited to play by parents. Not dc. This was very much based on parental earnings and jobs. We didn’t fit in. She couldn’t pop next door to see another child. She didn’t know them. Then when a child did transfer to her school who lived just around the corner, there was a strong impression given that DD was not their idea of a friend. They disliked her denim mini skirt and the fact dd liked the school disco. Their dd wasn’t allowed to go. It seemed friendships were curated and dd wasn’t wanted. She did have a few friends who didn’t pass for the grammar so even if we had stayed in state, these dc we’re going to a different school. There were some very pleasant dc at the primary but dd wasn’t like their dc, not a maths genius like one. She just didn’t fit in.

Therefore, apart from money, there was nothing to lose. DD could be herself without judgement from parents. Join in with what she wanted to do without judgement. She could start again. She has made what I suspect are lifelong friends from day 1 and this strategy turned out to be remarkably successful. I’ve no doubt this is unusual but state didn’t work out so we tried an alternative where she thrived and was happy.

HuntingtonHaven18 · 26/08/2024 19:47

CarmelaBrunella · 26/08/2024 18:28

Yes, but you weren't away from your parents - your Dad was there. It's different.

I completely agree that my situation was very different to those who did not ask or want to board. My daughter and her friends (without teacher parents) enjoy the social aspect of flexi boarding. Although I am a staff member we live in another town to the school and therefore on her boarding night, I go home. I am definitely not saying that bake cause I enjoyed it, boarding is a good thing (just that it is not always a complete negative - even if you do not have a parent at the school).

I think flexi boarding can be a very positive and fun experience if the child wants and asks for it. I completely agree with you that those who have to board and have no real choice can be very damaged by it.

iamsoshocked · 26/08/2024 19:50

pearvines · 26/08/2024 17:32

@iamsoshocked but why did you feel they would be better off sent away? It's such an unusual concept for the majority of parents.

For goodness sake. I did not send my children away. that is such a horrible phrase and I wish people would stop using it.
Did you read my post?
at what point did I send them away?
I think you are confusing sending away with allowing them to live the life they want.

Hoppinggreen · 26/08/2024 19:52

iamsoshocked · 26/08/2024 19:50

For goodness sake. I did not send my children away. that is such a horrible phrase and I wish people would stop using it.
Did you read my post?
at what point did I send them away?
I think you are confusing sending away with allowing them to live the life they want.

They want a life that involves not living with you though, which I would be absolutely devastated by

pearvines · 26/08/2024 19:54

@iamsoshocked ok, why did you send them to boarding school? I don't know how you want me to word it? Boarding school was away, you needed to consent and pay for it so you it's something you actioned?

My 13 year old wants all sorts of things, it's my role as a parent with my fully formed adult brain to determine if what he wants is what he needs, and I just can't see any normal circumstance where prioritising education and a bit of sport in an educational institution is preferable to ensuring emotional stability and time within a loving and stable home. I'm actually not trying to be antagonistic. It's something that is open to us as a military family, we have colleagues who have made that decision, and I just can't comprehend it.

Izzymoon · 26/08/2024 19:58

I just can’t see any benefit whatsoever to kids boarding 20 mins away.
I still wouldn’t do it but I can just about understand boarding at a prestigious non local school. But 20 mins away? Why wouldn’t you want them home?
It just seems like parental avoidance to me.

FriendlyRobin · 26/08/2024 20:10

I can't remember the exact words but I think it's summed up in the previous posters claim they didn't hand over anything "that mattered".

I found that one of the truly saddest posts. They care about the choice of school/results /careers but the day to day life of the child doesn't "matter" and is of no consequence...

miserablecat · 26/08/2024 20:15

Izzymoon · 26/08/2024 19:58

I just can’t see any benefit whatsoever to kids boarding 20 mins away.
I still wouldn’t do it but I can just about understand boarding at a prestigious non local school. But 20 mins away? Why wouldn’t you want them home?
It just seems like parental avoidance to me.

I know of someone who had 3 kids at school 20-30 min away. The eldest one boarded but she collected the younger 2 from the same school each day . I couldn't get my head round that at all!
I presume the younger ones boarded when they got to a "suitable" age. I'm pretty sure they all board further away now.

FriendlyRobin · 26/08/2024 20:16

Similarly some of the few people defending boarding say they did it, their vrothers/sisters did it/ their friends in social circles do it and now their children do it. As if that makes it okay.

It just means it's been normalised. We can all think of harmful things that were normalised. And along with it that skug/elite belief if it's for the best. It's sort of cyclical that if they don't carry it on they're not doing the best for their children...

FriendlyRobin · 26/08/2024 20:17

Whereas Google says only 0.5% of English kids board... It's truly not necessary for success.

Tangerinenets · 26/08/2024 20:18

My nephews went from year 7. Day students to start with as fairly local but both desperately wanted to board. Youngest lasted a year but the eldest stayed until the end of year 11 as a boarder. I guess it’s not for every child and ideally they’d have a choice.

Tangerinenets · 26/08/2024 20:19

miserablecat · 26/08/2024 20:15

I know of someone who had 3 kids at school 20-30 min away. The eldest one boarded but she collected the younger 2 from the same school each day . I couldn't get my head round that at all!
I presume the younger ones boarded when they got to a "suitable" age. I'm pretty sure they all board further away now.

Maybe the eldest wanted to board?

Startrekobsessed · 26/08/2024 20:22

InevitableNameChanger · 26/08/2024 01:39

Exactly. We always chat when my son gets in from school (at least one parent is always WFH), then again at family dinner /taking them to clubs and then I always spend time with each child individually. We might play a game, watch some TV, walk the dog, swim or or just chat. Then I always tuck them in, even the teens.

So yes they do spend time with friends /at clubs /in their room, but we always spend a decent amount of time together each day too

I just wanted to say this is really lovely. My children are still very young but I’ll be aiming to do the same. I had a wonderful childhood but I do remember at some point my parents stopped coming to say goodbye at bedtime and I was sad about it!

Hoppinggreen · 26/08/2024 20:23

Tangerinenets · 26/08/2024 20:18

My nephews went from year 7. Day students to start with as fairly local but both desperately wanted to board. Youngest lasted a year but the eldest stayed until the end of year 11 as a boarder. I guess it’s not for every child and ideally they’d have a choice.

11 year olds should not have the choice of leaving home

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