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To be slightly disappointed in how my son's life has turned out

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JemimaPuddleduck7 · 24/08/2024 22:36

My DS is 21 and whilst I know none of us can predict our child's future, his life really hasn't turned out anything like I had imagined. Our family is very academic/high achieving and tbh, it came as a big surprise to me when my son struggled educationally. He hated every second of it and just about managed his exams. He had no desire to go to university and left school as soon as he could and went in to low paid manual work. I will add, he is very hard working, reliable and has made good friends at his job and seems to enjoy it. At 19 he announced that his girlfriend was pregnant (together since 14) and they were over the moon. I won't lie, DH and I were disappointed. They were/are so young and I still hoped DS would go on to study or at least get a better job. He was still living with us at the time, although to his defence, he pulled his socks up straight away and managed to get them a property through a HA which they've made look lovely, and also took on a second job. Our beautiful granddaughter is now a toddler and he informed us today they are now thinking of trying for a second baby. DS still has no plans to study or get a better job and they live paycheck to paycheck, which he says he doesn't mind as "they get by". His girlfriend doesn't work and has no desire to and he supports this as he says a mother should be at home for their child. This is so wildly different to his own upbringing that I struggle to understand how they don't want more for my granddaughter, financial security, holidays, clubs in the future etc. I've never admitted this out loud but I also feel slightly embarrassed when my friends are talking about their own children's lives in university, starting out in their careers etc. Has anyone else been in a similar situation? Do I keep gently encouraging or butt out. I love my son and grandchild dearly and just want the best for them.

OP posts:
Ringerphone · 25/08/2024 00:16

Not everyone wants a high powered well paid career, with little home life. Maybe as a child he felt your career was more important than him and you didn't spend enough time with him and he doesn't want this for his family

yes @ilovepixie! working TWO jobs with your wife working none is perfect for a great home life. He must spend so much time with his child with two jobs. Thank god the kid’s mum doesn’t prioritise a career eh! What would happen….oh

BlackShuck3 · 25/08/2024 00:17

cadburyegg · 24/08/2024 23:34

Your son sounds fab to be honest

This! He's a good father, he's a role model , be proud OP!

Piglet89 · 25/08/2024 00:21

@JemimaPuddleduck7 I am a lawyer, as are many of my friends.

I recently heard something, about which I thought for many days afterwards. Spoken about partners in top City law firms, like the one at which I trained.

”I’ll tell you what some of these City partners will never have….Enough”.

Your son sounds thoughtful and hardworking. He’s planning to propose to his GF - he sounds like he knows where he’s going.

Our children don’t always end up like us: that’s ok.

Ringerphone · 25/08/2024 00:23

Working two jobs just to live paycheck to paycheck is alright perhaps when you’re early 20s. When he hits 30-40-50 it’s going to be tiring, relentless and pointless as his life is not being bettered with any career progression. I understand why op is sad for him. Plus his wife needs to get her act together and get a job

Teacuplover · 25/08/2024 00:23

I’m not totally sure that this a serious post but if it is I say be proud and happy for him. He’s hardworking, has obviously got a strong family life and his own home , all at 21. He’s choosing his own path and things have a funny way of working themselves out when you put the effort in, which he obviously is doing.

Ringerphone · 25/08/2024 00:24

I recently heard something, about which I thought for many days afterwards. Spoken about partners in top City law firms, like the one at which I trained.”I’ll tell you what some of these City partners will never have….Enough”

yeah, but o bet you don’t work 2 jobs just to live in a council provided house with no prospect of changing that?

strangeandfamiliar · 25/08/2024 00:30

Actually I get where you're coming from OP. I think your feelings are pretty natural, and that you're allowed to have them. I would be the same I think in your shoes. I don't think you should be castigated for being a bit concerned about the path he's chosen. That's part of being an interested and supportive parent in my view.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 25/08/2024 00:30

You do know that working hard in a manual job doesn’t make you less than anyone else? It makes me sad to hear you talk about your son this way. He’s got a young family and has time to work his way up and improve his earning potential. He has somewhere to live and he supports his family. Would you rather he worked in the city, took coke and shagged around but earned loads of money?

Teacuplover · 25/08/2024 00:31

Ringerphone · 25/08/2024 00:24

I recently heard something, about which I thought for many days afterwards. Spoken about partners in top City law firms, like the one at which I trained.”I’ll tell you what some of these City partners will never have….Enough”

yeah, but o bet you don’t work 2 jobs just to live in a council provided house with no prospect of changing that?

No prospect of changing things at 21? He’s doing a manuel job, if he’s picking up a trade at the same time he’ll end up making good money especially with his work ethic.

Mumandcarer80 · 25/08/2024 00:32

Focus on the positives in your son not the negatives. He works hard to support his family not sat on his bum expecting everything given to him on a plate.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 25/08/2024 00:32

That being said you could gently encourage him to pick up a trade - maybe a plumbing qualification etc? But less of the ashamed part yeah?

7wwkw · 25/08/2024 00:33

Summerhillsquare · 24/08/2024 22:40

All the 'high achieving' young people I know are in debt, in house shares, stressed, single and childless. I'm not sure a degree and an office job are the route to health and happiness either.

The first reply has it.

The cost of university is astronomical.

Your ds is happy with a partner who he's been with since he was 14. They have a little kid. It sounds lovely tbh.

If you "achieve" with university and a "good" job, you get mega stress in return. Maybe a truck load of debt. Maybe you work evenings and weekends because your job is not something you just pack up for the day. And all society thinks of you is "oh you have a good job, you must pay for everything, you privileged twat". And you work yourself into oblivion and neglect your health. Our society absolutely does not value people like this - we actively and openly despise them.

Your ds's life sounds great. Your granddaughter is lucky to have her mum at home full time as well. If they can meet their outgoings, there's no problem.

Mamabearsmile · 25/08/2024 00:36

I have four, they're all different, I wear a different hat with each of them. I've only read two of the responses to your post but wanted to just respond to you. It's our job to love them, no matter what, unconditionally. I know plenty of higher educated professional and acomplished people who are simply miserable and mean with it. Your son sounds like a delight. You've said it yourself in response to another post. I'd be proud of him. Your instinct tells you that and inspite of your original reason for posting I think you've found your answer in your defence of him. He sounds like a great lad, my two are great too as are their sisters. The pleasure of watching them grow and become independent and happy is enough reward for me. I'm thrilled for the pair of us.

BlackShuck3 · 25/08/2024 00:45

He's a good decent bloke, solid gold💛

Ineverlose · 25/08/2024 00:46

JemimaPuddleduck7 · 24/08/2024 23:12

I do think this plays a part. He was in nursery as a young baby, then breakfast club/after school club. He was always quite vocal about how he hated it and although as an adult he now understands it is because we were providing for him, he does say he doesn't want this for his child.

I think he is reacting to his upbringing. And one day he will move beyond it and his hardworking ethic- which is a credit to you- will stand to him and he’ll rise up the career ladder. Don’t worry, he sounds just lovely

Rhubarb1936 · 25/08/2024 00:48

So let me get this straight - your son is

  1. Employed and happy with what he does,
  2. In love with a long term partner
  3. Has a beautiful child and is planning to expand his family
  4. Provides for his family
  5. Has friends and colleagues who like him and
  6. Is happy with his life and his decisions

and you are disappointed in him?! I think you seriously need to get into some sort of therapy to adjust your way of thinking.

What you have stated your son has is surely what every parent should want for their child? So it’s not a piece of paper for a university - so what?

Ringerphone · 25/08/2024 00:48

He's a good decent bloke, solid gold💛

@BlackShuck3 what on earth have you made that judgement on? He might be an absolute arse?

Cural · 25/08/2024 00:49

You son is rejecting your values OP, you are a disappointment to him.

Caerulea · 25/08/2024 00:50

DS1 is now nearly 23. Started secondary as a 'gold star' student, the boy was smart af but all over the spectrum. The school failed him badly. By 19 he'd been in hospital twice due to drugs & alcohol & we genuinely thought he was on his way to being a suicide statistic.

Today, an old school friend of his popped into my business & asked after him. I told him all about his son (my grandson) & the wonderful woman he'd met. That he's got a good job building Cornish slate walls & that he's happier than I have EVER seen him. It was like being a dad was in him all along, just waiting to be fulfilled. That little boy is his world & I am SO proud of him!

His friend positively beamed as I told him all this, he was so pleased for my son & that he is happy & stable. The friend has done uni, got a degree & is very financially stable (thanks to Bank of Mum & Dad) but he delighted in my son's happiness & little family.

When I've talked to ppl about me being a nan at 46 they don't look down on me! They talk about how lovely it is to be young enough to properly enjoy the experience. I'd not want anyone in my life that would think what my son has achieved is shameful just cos their child did things differently!

Unless your child commits a heinous crime you should NEVER feel ashamed. Frustrated, pissed off but never ashamed, especially if your son has proven to be a wonderful dad.

God knows we need more of those in the world!

Ringerphone · 25/08/2024 00:53

No prospect of changing things at 21? He’s doing a manuel job, if he’s picking up a trade at the same time he’ll end up making good money especially with his work ethic.

@Teacuplover the op has clearly stated he has no prospect of changing job or progressing. She hasn’t mentioned picking up a trade. He might work in a supermarket or any other minimum wage job. Most jobs like these end up with just a lifetime of slog with not much reward.

Caththegreat · 25/08/2024 00:54

Childlessness is not a failure and having kids not a sign of success

spaceshooter · 25/08/2024 00:54

Stop being a snob and wake up to the fact you have a happy kind son who is living his life as he wishes.

He sounds lovely. You should be proud not disappointed, he deserves better than your derision.

Izzabellasasperella · 25/08/2024 00:55

My son is also 21. He went to University but came home after a week. He realised that it wasn't what he wanted. After coming home he worked in a bit of a dead end job but he realised that he needed something more so managed to get an apprenticeship in a trade and learnt to drive. He really enjoys his job
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All I want for him is that he is happy. Uni and a high flying career isn't important a happy and fulfilling life is.

Perpetuallydaisy · 25/08/2024 00:56

He sounds like a really well-adjusted, sensible and caring young man who is mature for his age and understands what truly matters in life.

I'd be so delighted if my son achieved so much so young. It's rare these days to have children at a young enough age to enjoy it. He has secure housing — extremely rare these days (I wish my son had a chance of getting a housing association place!).

Childcare is too expensive, so it's a good thing if his partner genuinely enjoys doing the childcare work while he's earning.

Caththegreat · 25/08/2024 00:56

So materialistic on mumsnet