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To be slightly disappointed in how my son's life has turned out

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JemimaPuddleduck7 · 24/08/2024 22:36

My DS is 21 and whilst I know none of us can predict our child's future, his life really hasn't turned out anything like I had imagined. Our family is very academic/high achieving and tbh, it came as a big surprise to me when my son struggled educationally. He hated every second of it and just about managed his exams. He had no desire to go to university and left school as soon as he could and went in to low paid manual work. I will add, he is very hard working, reliable and has made good friends at his job and seems to enjoy it. At 19 he announced that his girlfriend was pregnant (together since 14) and they were over the moon. I won't lie, DH and I were disappointed. They were/are so young and I still hoped DS would go on to study or at least get a better job. He was still living with us at the time, although to his defence, he pulled his socks up straight away and managed to get them a property through a HA which they've made look lovely, and also took on a second job. Our beautiful granddaughter is now a toddler and he informed us today they are now thinking of trying for a second baby. DS still has no plans to study or get a better job and they live paycheck to paycheck, which he says he doesn't mind as "they get by". His girlfriend doesn't work and has no desire to and he supports this as he says a mother should be at home for their child. This is so wildly different to his own upbringing that I struggle to understand how they don't want more for my granddaughter, financial security, holidays, clubs in the future etc. I've never admitted this out loud but I also feel slightly embarrassed when my friends are talking about their own children's lives in university, starting out in their careers etc. Has anyone else been in a similar situation? Do I keep gently encouraging or butt out. I love my son and grandchild dearly and just want the best for them.

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smilyfairy · 25/08/2024 16:14

My life is very different than my parents by choice , circumstance and personality .

My kids life in turn is different to mine .When bringing my kids up I always said I wanted them to have a life they chose and they have ,my dd is doing her masters and my son who didn't go to uni is in a band and works with Sen kids .

They have chosen their own paths and do it with enthusiasm , kindness and I couldn't be prouder of them both .
It sounds like your son has made a choice and is doing it well .

As a woman whose children's father wasn't really involved in their lives a man who prioritises his family is not something trivial and you have obviously taught him well . Be proud 😊

Elsvieta · 25/08/2024 16:23

Some people in "manual" jobs make plenty of money - plumbers charge a bloody fortune and seem to be in short supply as well. Would you be willing to help fund it if he wanted to train for something like that? If so, yes, definitely say so.

He may get some motivation as he gets older - so may she. Perhaps when the kids are in school she'll suddenly train for a job and do really well - you never know. But you can't force it.

ashitghost · 25/08/2024 16:30

I would love it if my son turns out like yours. I think you must have given him a great upbringing. You should be proud and kinder to yourself.

Wetherspoons · 25/08/2024 16:59

Watermelodious · 25/08/2024 16:08

It's not snobby to realise that some paths are harder than others. Some of the factories round here pay well- certainly more than an early career stage teacher. It's a long time since i worked in a factory, but my dad did pretty much all his life and Dh has done stints of factory work when out of a job. The work was physically hard, but not mentally taxing.

However, op is saying that her son is doing poorly paid manual work, whilst trying to raise a family. There's another thread currently where people are saying they won't be having children until they can afford to give a them a certain standard of living. I suspect part of op's issues is bewilderment that her son would choose to have a harder life and to put himself in a position where he will struggle for money.

I know money isn't supposed to = happiness, but I'm much happier as a well paid adult than I was as the child of poor parents.

Could you or anybody link this thread please, sounds interesting.

Comtesse · 25/08/2024 17:13

My DF started manual work as an apprentice when he was 15. He grafted all his life and was still on a building site the day he died (when he was 68). He shovelled plenty of shit for £5 an hour and it was bloody hard work.

He wanted something better for his kids and I feel the same.

Plus the evidence is clear that outcomes for the children of teenaged parents are in general less good - of course there are exceptions but at a population level this holds good. So maybe OP is not delighted about what this may mean for her grandchild too.

SunflowersMidwinter · 25/08/2024 17:23

I don't think uni is the issue here, it's lack of motivation.

I've got a cousin who left school at 14 and owns a massive house in a great area, manual work.

I think I'd feel a little disappointed OP but I'd enjoy the good relationship with them and have lots of nice days together as a family.

EdithBond · 25/08/2024 19:03

sunseaandsoundingoff · 25/08/2024 13:19

you can be single and childless and perfectly happy.

the difference is that the long term prospects are better because they won't be in that situation in 10 years, whereas the OP's son will still be in theirs.

Not necessarily. Having kids young means you can do things the other way round. In 10 years, his kids will almost be at secondary school, requiring much less childcare, he’ll have ten years of work under his belt, possibly with promotions and part-time qualifications, and maybe even be a few years into a mortgage. And he’ll only be 31 - about the age the average graduate might start coupling up. By the time he’s 41, when the average graduate might be juggling a career and caring for young kids, his kids will be adults and he and his partner can enjoy life and easily move up in their jobs. I have a number of friends who had kids in their late teens/early 20s, some as lone parents. They’ve all had a fantastic middle age. Mortgages paid off by 50. One’s a CEO and travels the world.

Tattletwat · 25/08/2024 21:05

Wetherspoons · 25/08/2024 15:36

Knowing that manual work is hard work and certainly isn't an easy life like some people portray it as looking down on manual work

If that was the case then many manual-workers themselves would be classed as snobs and what are people gonna claim it is then, internalised classism?

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Imagine being producing a dum. And stupid arguement

Tattletwat · 25/08/2024 21:08

Thepeopleversuswork · 25/08/2024 15:31

@Tattletwat

This looking down on manual workers is just classist.

You don’t have to “look down on” certain jobs to not want your children to do them. I don’t look down on people who clean toilets for a living or look after people with dementia. I don’t look down on soldiers or priests or many other people who do jobs which are important.

It doesn’t mean I have to think they are right for my children or would push my children into doing them.

Would you push a child into doing a minimum wage job at a care home if you knew they could earn more for a less stressful or rewarding job?

If not then you have no right to lecture others on their reservations.

Can. You imagine putting words in peoples mouths they never said ,

Guess what someone whas to do that job , Nd yes it is snobby to look down on other.

Your little lecture is just a silly little tantrum.

medik7 · 25/08/2024 21:09

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Tattletwat · 25/08/2024 21:11

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Oh because someone disagree they are drinking, how embarrassed for you

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TulaTilda · 25/08/2024 21:14

Tattletwat · 25/08/2024 21:11

Oh because someone disagree they are drinking, how embarrassed for you

I think its more the spelling mistakes and not really making sense to be honest

Tattletwat · 25/08/2024 21:15

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Imagine trying to embarrass people by commenting and saying they are drinking and then pretending to not know what they are talking about

Pathetic.

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BirthdayRainbow · 25/08/2024 21:18

I hope he never knows how you feel about him. So sad.

Ceebs85 · 25/08/2024 21:18

I think there's a lot to be said for doing something you like and being happy with what you've got! He sounds great

LovelyBitOfHam · 25/08/2024 21:21

I was a “high achiever” and I wish to God I wasn’t.

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Thepeopleversuswork · 25/08/2024 21:28

@Tattletwat

You literally said “looking down on manual workers is classist”. A direct quote.

I don’t think you know what a tantrum means. Your illiterate and rambling post is much closer to a tantrum than any other post on this thread.

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Thepeopleversuswork · 25/08/2024 21:28

@Tattletwat

You literally said “looking down on manual workers is classist”. A direct quote.

I don’t think you know what a tantrum means. Your illiterate and rambling post is much closer to a tantrum than any other post on this thread.

And you are behaving like a imbecile funny that

medik7 · 25/08/2024 21:32

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