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AIBU to say it's not "ect"

579 replies

IceCreamWoes · 23/08/2024 21:21

I've seen about 8 threads in the last 2 days with posters writing ect when they obviously mean etc. I probably am being U but it really does irrationally fucking irritate me!

I need to get out more, yes. I've had two (big) glasses of wine 😂.

So, am I?

OP posts:
Emptyandsad · 24/08/2024 00:39

Two I hate:
▪︎ To 'step foot' in a place; it's not 'step foot', it's 'set foot'
▪︎ The creeping americanisms which are becoming common, e.g. "it's not that big of a deal". We always used to say "it's not that big a deal". What is the "of" doing there?

Sooka · 24/08/2024 00:40

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andthat · 24/08/2024 00:41

TeenLifeMum · 23/08/2024 21:37

I proof copy as part of my job. Drives me nuts that people write their instead of there and the wrong your etc. Also, I’m an apostrophe pedant.

However, it’s worth noting that the average adult reading age in England is 9 and in my county it’s 8. Plus 1 in 9 people are dyslexic.

And presumably you’d be out of a job if everyone was grammatically perfect.

Emptyandsad · 24/08/2024 00:43

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I used to work with an American who once said "let's get this document signaturised"

JayJayEl · 24/08/2024 00:46

PermanentTemporary · 23/08/2024 21:38

I sometimes use ect because it was a joke from Molesworth and I find it tremendously amusing.

I admit I need to get out more, but it's just a little pleasantry.

I find a lot of joy in the fact that you do this, even though it infuriates me.

JayJayEl · 24/08/2024 00:50

I blame Super Nanny.

verityrosa · 24/08/2024 00:51

Lifeinlists · 24/08/2024 00:13

@Sooka yes, I did wonder if it was a pisstake. For the sake of family harmony,I haven't got round to pointing that one out to my brother!

@verityrosa Sorry about that. Just being a bit technical really. All you need to know is that it's is only ever short for 'it is' (and 'it has'). English has lots of confusing rules!

Thank you, I’m actually ok with ‘it’s’, but not the technical words in your post- but I’m finding this thread quite useful! I’m good at spelling (at least I think I am) but definitely make a few grammatical errors. Also pronunciation errors, mainly on words I’ve read but never had to say. I used to think adamant was Adam- Ant. 😭

murasaki · 24/08/2024 00:52

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 24/08/2024 00:37

I avoid using effective and affective because I just don't get them. I've looked at both words, and their meanings, and I still don't get it.

People's spelling or grammar do not 'fucking irritate' me in the slightest, and I'm happy to reveal my weakness.

Does it help to think that you affect something, so an active action, and something effects you.

So you affect someone's life by donating to charity, the effect of that is you are down some cash.

One is active, one passive if you see what i mean. The effect is the consequences of the affect.

verityrosa · 24/08/2024 00:53

The one that really winds me up is rest-bite. I see this almost daily, as I’m on a lot of SEN groups, and respite is discussed often.

LightDrizzle · 24/08/2024 00:55

I knew I was being unreasonable and shallow but yesterday I was squirming as I heard repeats of the interview with the police dog handler, Leanne Somebody, speaking about “them” missing Birmingham dogs involved in a fatality. She must of referred to “them dogs” four times in a short interview.

verityrosa · 24/08/2024 00:58

murasaki · 24/08/2024 00:52

Does it help to think that you affect something, so an active action, and something effects you.

So you affect someone's life by donating to charity, the effect of that is you are down some cash.

One is active, one passive if you see what i mean. The effect is the consequences of the affect.

I get confused on this one as well. Although I think I’m getting the hang of it now. 😅 would this be correct:
’I went to an amazing show, and the special effects were amazing! My son also really enjoyed the show, and all of the special effects. The flashing lights did not affect his epilepsy.’

verityrosa · 24/08/2024 01:01

Just thought of a mistake my Mum makes. This year, on my sons birthday, she posted this on Facebook;

‘We would like to wish are amazing grandson a very happy 15th birthday.’

The 2 things annoyed me about this:
1- ARE instead of OUR
2- It was his 14th birthday 😑

Emptyandsad · 24/08/2024 01:01

murasaki · 24/08/2024 00:52

Does it help to think that you affect something, so an active action, and something effects you.

So you affect someone's life by donating to charity, the effect of that is you are down some cash.

One is active, one passive if you see what i mean. The effect is the consequences of the affect.

Ah, I fear you've got that partially wrong.

Effect can be an active verb; when you effect change, you bring about change. When you affect change you make a difference to, or influence, a change that is already happening.

And something doesn't effect you; it affects you.

Sorry - it's complicated...

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 24/08/2024 01:01

@murasaki thank you. So the affects of the weather effect me?

murasaki · 24/08/2024 01:02

I think the real problem here, and what no one is prepared to address is that whatever government is in power isn't willing to discuss that all the phonics in the world( and I disagree with them as a learning method) isn't sorting out that fact that a large proportion of GB can't write or speak their own language correctly and know why they are choosing the words they do. That's worrying. ( regional terms for stuff obviously fine) . Bilingual kids probably do better as they are bei g taught from.scratch without an assumption of knowledge that many parents can't /won't provide.

murasaki · 24/08/2024 01:03

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 24/08/2024 01:01

@murasaki thank you. So the affects of the weather effect me?

Yes, the wind affects the tree next to you and has the effect of knocking your fence down, if that makes sense?

verityrosa · 24/08/2024 01:04

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 24/08/2024 01:01

@murasaki thank you. So the affects of the weather effect me?

I think it’s the other way round. ‘The effects of the weather affect me.’

Emptyandsad · 24/08/2024 01:05

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 24/08/2024 01:01

@murasaki thank you. So the affects of the weather effect me?

No, the effects of the weather affect you

murasaki · 24/08/2024 01:05

T0 be for, @Emptyandsad is right, the effect of the wind knocking down the tree affects you. But also the effect of the wind is the tree being knocked.down

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 24/08/2024 01:07

Fuck you affect and effect 🤣

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 24/08/2024 01:09

I can say them in conversation, but written, I avoid it.

Jacopo · 24/08/2024 01:09

People saying that the mums at the school gate form a 'click' when they mean 'clique'. People saying that something is 'so cliché' when they mean 'so clichéd'. And people missing the point of the expression 'it is impossible to overestimate the significance of something' and using the word underestimate instead.

murasaki · 24/08/2024 01:10

I have to say, I was going to bed a while ago, but having a non aggressive grammar thread has been most enjoyable. It is possible to do this without being mean and we all learn something. I hate the ones where the OP is frightened off, but I don't feel this was that.

murasaki · 24/08/2024 01:11

OK, back with the snark. CLICK?????? WTF?. It's a clique, and there's probably a reason you aren't in it.

SummerSplashing · 24/08/2024 01:14

TheClawDecides · 23/08/2024 21:29

What pacifically is your AIBU?

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