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AIBU to say it's not "ect"

579 replies

IceCreamWoes · 23/08/2024 21:21

I've seen about 8 threads in the last 2 days with posters writing ect when they obviously mean etc. I probably am being U but it really does irrationally fucking irritate me!

I need to get out more, yes. I've had two (big) glasses of wine 😂.

So, am I?

OP posts:
Ilovecleaning · 27/08/2024 17:17

SerendipityJane · 27/08/2024 10:24

Maybe drifting off topic (ironic in a thread about pedantry, really) but how about reversing nouns ?

First mortgage I got - admittedly in the midlands - the advisor was very keen to tell me how much she could "borrow me". It wasn't a slip up ... it was an everyday way of speaking.

I got so cross I nearly learned her.

To work in the loan industry and not know the difference between lend and borrow is effing RIDICULOUS!!

SerendipityJane · 27/08/2024 17:25

Ilovecleaning · 27/08/2024 17:17

To work in the loan industry and not know the difference between lend and borrow is effing RIDICULOUS!!

Maybe someone will learn you ?

andthat · 27/08/2024 22:22

TeenLifeMum · 24/08/2024 11:51

No, because human error. Even the best writers need proof readers. I proof copy from professionals. It’s usually typos I pick up rather than grammatical errors. Occasionally we’ve had those who don’t know which there/their to use and they don’t stay long because they’re not up to the job. Copy that needs a complete rewrite isn’t what proofing is for.

I saw all the coverage with students getting straight 9s celebrating but we ignore the fact that more than 40% of our young people are failing exams. That’s concerning, but a different debate.

Did you mean to say “no, because of human error…”
🤣

HotCrossBunplease · 27/08/2024 23:37

andthat · 27/08/2024 22:22

Did you mean to say “no, because of human error…”
🤣

“Because +noun” is a common stylistic feature of writing these days. I imagine it was done knowingly.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 29/08/2024 09:57

I’ve yet again just seen ‘discrete’ when they meant ‘discreet’.
I’m never going to do it, but I do wish someone would tell the OP that the meanings are entirely different!

DappledThings · 29/08/2024 10:06

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 29/08/2024 09:57

I’ve yet again just seen ‘discrete’ when they meant ‘discreet’.
I’m never going to do it, but I do wish someone would tell the OP that the meanings are entirely different!

I always have to check that one, can never remember which one is which. Same for stationary and stationery. But at least I know they are different and don't use them without checking.

HotCrossBunplease · 29/08/2024 10:12

@DappledThings one way remember it is that in “discrete” the “e”s are separated from one another.

HotCrossBunplease · 29/08/2024 10:13

HotCrossBunplease · 29/08/2024 10:12

@DappledThings one way remember it is that in “discrete” the “e”s are separated from one another.

And I always remember stationery is e for envelope.

NowImNotDoingIt · 29/08/2024 10:17

@DappledThings I remember stationary because it has station (stop) in it. Then the other one is with an e.Grin

focacciamuffin · 29/08/2024 10:30

Stationary as in car. Stationery as in paper.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 29/08/2024 11:31

HotCrossBunplease · 29/08/2024 10:12

@DappledThings one way remember it is that in “discrete” the “e”s are separated from one another.

Brilliant - I never heard that one!

Stationary and stationery - I remember being told to remember a stationARy cAR, and that papER is stationERy.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/08/2024 11:47

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 29/08/2024 09:57

I’ve yet again just seen ‘discrete’ when they meant ‘discreet’.
I’m never going to do it, but I do wish someone would tell the OP that the meanings are entirely different!

Unfortunately that's one of the pairs where trying to model correct usage of each is quite difficult. I don't think there's very often a need to use 'discrete' in everyday language.

ValsCupcakes · 29/08/2024 12:05

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 29/08/2024 09:57

I’ve yet again just seen ‘discrete’ when they meant ‘discreet’.
I’m never going to do it, but I do wish someone would tell the OP that the meanings are entirely different!

It annoys me along with those posters who are defiantly going to do X or Y.

NowImNotDoingIt · 29/08/2024 12:30

Discrete data , normally used in maths, science,statistics etc.Often used in this specific context. I remember because it's not the one I usually need.Grin

Discreet is the one most commonly used in every day language , with the meaning of hidden,secretive,unobtrusive, inconspicuous etc.

HotCrossBunplease · 29/08/2024 12:36

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 29/08/2024 11:31

Brilliant - I never heard that one!

Stationary and stationery - I remember being told to remember a stationARy cAR, and that papER is stationERy.

It’s my own personal aide memoire, have never told anyone else before!

HotCrossBunplease · 29/08/2024 12:38

ErrolTheDragon · 29/08/2024 11:47

Unfortunately that's one of the pairs where trying to model correct usage of each is quite difficult. I don't think there's very often a need to use 'discrete' in everyday language.

As a lawyer I would often talk about a discrete issue or a discrete point raised in argument. DH and I would use it in conversation with each other about mundane household stuff but I suppose we are quite pretentious!

ErrolTheDragon · 29/08/2024 12:54

In my world it's discrete energy levels etc (the Es are indeed separate) and sometimes the mathematical usage.

DappledThings · 29/08/2024 13:23

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 29/08/2024 11:31

Brilliant - I never heard that one!

Stationary and stationery - I remember being told to remember a stationARy cAR, and that papER is stationERy.

That is a good one on discrete.

My trouble with stationary and stationery is that I tried to remember it by e meaning email which is office related, as is stationery and a is like @ which means someone is at a place, so they are stationary there. But then I started to think of @ also being computer/office related and it made my overcomplicated aide memoire meaningless.

PapER for stationERy is much simpler!

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 29/08/2024 13:41

ErrolTheDragon · 29/08/2024 11:47

Unfortunately that's one of the pairs where trying to model correct usage of each is quite difficult. I don't think there's very often a need to use 'discrete' in everyday language.

No, but explaining that ‘discrete’ means separate, distinct, ought to do it. But it’s rarely heard in everyday speech.

SerendipityJane · 29/08/2024 18:31

DappledThings · 29/08/2024 10:06

I always have to check that one, can never remember which one is which. Same for stationary and stationery. But at least I know they are different and don't use them without checking.

Fun fact: stationery is so named because it was originally bough in stations ...

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2022/10/in-a-word-whats-so-stationary-about-stationery/

In a Word: What’s So Stationary about Stationery? | The Saturday Evening Post

The connected history of two commonly confused words.

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2022/10/in-a-word-whats-so-stationary-about-stationery

Abitofalark · 29/08/2024 19:44

DappledThings · 29/08/2024 10:06

I always have to check that one, can never remember which one is which. Same for stationary and stationery. But at least I know they are different and don't use them without checking.

Pen for stationery and Car for stationary is an easy way to remember them.

NowImNotDoingIt · 29/08/2024 20:21

Just realised my trick is pointless and makes no sense as both words have "station" in it , the difference comes right after. Somehow it works/makes sense to me.🙈

DumbassHamsterSitterPerson · 29/08/2024 20:31

NowImNotDoingIt · 29/08/2024 20:21

Just realised my trick is pointless and makes no sense as both words have "station" in it , the difference comes right after. Somehow it works/makes sense to me.🙈

I have to admit I was looking at your "tip" and wondering how on earth it helped!

I mentioned the "stationery has an E for envelope" in the other day. My mum had never heard that trick and thought it was amazingly clever. My DC (who are young adults) apparently didn't realise there were 2 spellings Hmm

FuzzyPuffling · 30/08/2024 15:19

I do the "E for envelope" thing too. How long will it be before people ask " What's an envelope?"?

lcakethereforeIam · 30/08/2024 16:55

I used to get the names of gadwall and garganey mixed up. I finally came up with, in the UK at least, gadwall are all over the place. If anyone else is having the same problem, you're welcome 😊

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