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Daughter refusing to speak normally

414 replies

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:23

I’m at my bloody wits end with my child and I’m very close to telling her so.

I have one child (daughter she’s eight) she is my only child as a few years ago I had my tubes tied neither me or partner wanted another daughter - perfectly fine with just one and she has plenty of cousins and friends to spend time with. I

Its worth noting before I go on that my child is not neurodivergent nor is she from a broken home. Me and her dad have been together twelve years. We have never broken up nor divorced either, partly because we’ve never been married. So there’s really no need for her to be doing what she does.

Lately she has been reverting back to baby speech - saying things like chippies or icky, the worst is bobo when she wants her water bottle and it’s grinding my gears to the maximum. It’s gotten so bad that my partner will flat out ignore her.

Earlier on today she had a full on temper tantrum and kept screaming “icky icky icky” over ice cream spilling on her fingers while we were out. When I pulled her up on to her feet and sternly told her she was on thin ice she reverted back to baby speech “I no wike you” was among my top five favourites.

AIBU to ignore her like my partner is doing? Is this a phase she’ll grow out of? I’m dreading sending her back to school the week after next because her baby talk has got so bad none of her friends have wanted to spend time all summer

I really don’t need the shaming mum parade, I’d like a hand hold and for someone to tell me their kid has also been driving them beserk too

although I know I’m likely to be flamed - Mumsnet seems to be that way

OP posts:
SummerSnowstorm · 22/08/2024 19:53

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 19:47

@SummerSnowstorm the only reason I could think of is because a friend has a new baby but we hardly see this friend (friend lives in Suffolk and we live in south wales)

it’s driving me insane, there’s nothing wrong with her. But she won’t stop

With our DD it seems to be when she's struggling with communicating (because of being stressed/ overwhelmed/ tired/ around lots of people or whatever reason) then it's easier for her to communicate in the most basic form than to put effort into making a proper sentence in an appropriate voice.
She rarely uses baby talk when at home alone with us unless it's after a busy day out or when somethings gone wrong such as spilt drink or shes hurt herself etc, but its common when she's around other people or after stressful times like a school day or busy day out.

Lollipop81 · 22/08/2024 19:53

I didn’t realise children from “broken homes” talked like this 🤣🤣 are you from the 1960s? My children are from a so called broken home and at 5 and 6 they don’t talk like babies.
im sure it’s just a phase though and you are massively over reacting.

TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 22/08/2024 19:53

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 19:44

I wish we could have more children, partner and I both have issues because of long Covid so it’s not on the cards for us

Errr you said in your OP that you'd been sterilised?

Wigglytails · 22/08/2024 19:53

why are you getting so worked up about this? She is probably looking for your attention & just experimenting with your triggers. Do some funny voices back to her & when she is calm and behaving normally tell her it’s silly and not something you want in your family.

im sure there are plenty of mums who would take your perceived problem over many issues facing mums today

Montydone · 22/08/2024 19:55

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 19:41

Eff that. No. I’m NOT indulging my eight year old / who has no clue her Dad lost her job because we hide it from her - to talk like a baby.

Nope. Sorry but No. She has no clue, and we’ve hidden it from her because if she found out she’d be even more relentless with the baby speech.

My child goes into year four in two weeks.

OP do you notice what you are doing here? You are dismissing (with stern language) a thoughtful comment by another person and refusing to give it any air time. You are not reflecting on it or wondering whether maybe you could tweak your approach.

Your response right here says a lot for me. She needs some warmth from you and connection and understanding

pinkyredrose · 22/08/2024 19:56

DillyDilly · 22/08/2024 18:38

I think you need to seek professional advice. To me it seems like there might be a bigger issue and your daughter is a very unhappy person for some reason.

Oh come on! She's just mucking about!

Cantgetyououttamyhead · 22/08/2024 19:58

No advice but if it's any consolation my 8 year old son is also driving me mad.

Breadcat24 · 22/08/2024 19:58

Op I am sorry you are going through this.
I am also sorry you are getting a hard time on here.
If your 8 year was perfectly coherent before this baby talk I would simply ignore her when she does it- she thinks it is cute or will get her attention. Has she watched any movies lately with baby talk? How do her friends speak?

At 8 years old I would say to her " you are going to look like an idiot at school if you talk like that"
Not PC but I am old and it is the truth

RunAwayTurnAwayRunAwayTurnAway · 22/08/2024 20:00

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:36

It’s stressing me out big time. She goes into year 4 in September and I know for a fact her teacher won’t take her nonsense. He taught my oldest nephre (who’s just turned fifteen)

thank you for all your messages I’m reading them but because I am on my mobile I can’t reply to you all (I’m old and don’t understand techy things)

I got the ick, OP, from your self-deprecating humour about your age.

Similar to what you say your daughter is doing, no?

Bollihobs · 22/08/2024 20:01

HauntedbyMagpies · 22/08/2024 18:48

YABVVVVU to use the expression 'broken home' in 2024 for a start!
Also, as a parent to a 9yr old autistic DD who does exactly the behaviour you describe, I'm saying that your DD very much is neurodivergent and that it's nothing to be ashamed of! Unless she's been assessed by the NHS and you have it in writing from them that they've found her not to be neurodiverse, then you cannot simply declare her as "not neurodivergent" as you don't have the power to say that. Even child psychologists need a panel of fellow child psychologists and autism specialists to declare a child to be one way or the other.

Oh get over yourself, you know very well what the OP was conveying with the term "broken home" and as for the insistence that the OP "doesn't have the power" (whatever that means) to say her DD isn't ND you apparently can distance diagnose her in a moment! 🙄

Calliopespa · 22/08/2024 20:02

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:50

Unless she's been assessed by the NHS and you have it in writing from them that they've found her not to be neurodiverse, then you cannot simply declare her as "not neurodivergent"

i have it in writing from three psychiatrists and most of her teachers at school have told me she isn’t autistic.

but thank you very much for claiming you know my child

How long has it being going on oP? I read it as a short term thing but the three psychiatrists made me wonder if I’d assumed that rather than read it? Surely DD must have a pretty strong understanding it’s causing problems if she seen three psychiatrists? Did they discuss it directly with her?

BranstonPickleAndNikNaks · 22/08/2024 20:02

TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 22/08/2024 19:53

Errr you said in your OP that you'd been sterilised?

I noticed that too. The whole thread is weird - the brusque defensiveness, the "my child is completely typical and emotionally balanced but has seen THREE psychiatrists" (that @Maryahadaballtoday has ignored all questions about), and the irrelevant long covid detail that contradicts the OP!

Calliopespa · 22/08/2024 20:04

RunAwayTurnAwayRunAwayTurnAway · 22/08/2024 20:00

I got the ick, OP, from your self-deprecating humour about your age.

Similar to what you say your daughter is doing, no?

Lots of us don’t have the tech skills younger generations have. How is she supposed to convey that?

MangshorJhol · 22/08/2024 20:05

Why was your DD examined by three psychiatrists though? Has this baby talk been going on for a long time or was there another reason? I couldn’t find a response to that.

EmoIsntDead · 22/08/2024 20:06

HauntedbyMagpies · 22/08/2024 19:05

@BippityBopper Nobody has diagnosed anybody. Read my posts again. I said “it sounds like” & I made it very clear that my ONLY reason for saying so, was that my autistic child does the exact same behaviour.
Even if I had ‘diagnosed’ I’d say what is far worse, is all the posters on here, telling OP how she should punish this child who very well could be autistic. It’s disgusting

copy/pasted from your earlier post:

I'm saying that your DD very much is neurodivergent and that it's nothing to be ashamed of!

you don’t say ‘it sounds like’ here.

RunAwayTurnAwayRunAwayTurnAway · 22/08/2024 20:07

Calliopespa · 22/08/2024 20:04

Lots of us don’t have the tech skills younger generations have. How is she supposed to convey that?

Equally children don’t have the skills to fully communicate everything they can perceive.

Theunamedcat · 22/08/2024 20:07

Lollipop81 · 22/08/2024 19:53

I didn’t realise children from “broken homes” talked like this 🤣🤣 are you from the 1960s? My children are from a so called broken home and at 5 and 6 they don’t talk like babies.
im sure it’s just a phase though and you are massively over reacting.

Pretty sure she is bluntly telling people this to stop dozens of questions like is he her real dad? Does she see her real dad? Does he have another baby and she thinks she is being replaced questions

Hectorscalling · 22/08/2024 20:07

Come on. There’s clearly more to this.

You have your tubes tied because you didn’t want another daughter? Did you mean daughter or child?

Then you decided to not have another child because both you are your partner are suffering with health issues due to long Covid? If you have been suffering to the point that you decided to have your tubes tied, she is likely to have picked up on it the fact that things are different. Both her parents have significant health issues, that hasn’t just gone over her head.

You seem to think she definitely couldn’t be ND. And if she isn’t ND the only other reason that would be understandable would be if she is from a ‘broken home’. You seem hugely defensive and quite judgemental.

Then we have an 8 year old who has seen 3 psychiatrists? But there’s no other problems. You even have a discussion with the school about whether she is autistic. But never shown signs?

She is doing it for a reason. You just haven’t figured it out. Most likely because she has picked up on the fact that you and your partner are now ill. Have a lot going on. She may enjoy the attention you give her when she does it. She might enjoy the attention when she is pushing your buttons. Then her brain is learning she gets what she wants. ND presents very differently in girls. It’s not uncommon for people like psychiatrists and parents and teachers to miss it.

I think (privately) you really need to look at what’s going on and be honest with yourself. Kids who don’t have any issues don’t see 4 psychiatrists. Their parents don’t have conversations about autism with teachers Unless there are concerns. Parents don’t go to multiple psychiatrists and teachers for a short period of baby talk.

There’s more going on. You don’t have to discuss here. But I don’t think you are even being honest with yourself.

Theunamedcat · 22/08/2024 20:09

Respectfully OP she probably knows something is up in the household just ignore the behaviour walk away from it if you can tell her to use her words and ignore her if she persists

ArabellaScott · 22/08/2024 20:09

Maryahadaballtoday · 22/08/2024 18:36

It’s stressing me out big time. She goes into year 4 in September and I know for a fact her teacher won’t take her nonsense. He taught my oldest nephre (who’s just turned fifteen)

thank you for all your messages I’m reading them but because I am on my mobile I can’t reply to you all (I’m old and don’t understand techy things)

Of course she won't use this with her teacher. She is trying, as best an eight year old child can, to tell you something. What do you think it might be?

Hobnobswantshernameback · 22/08/2024 20:09

Ooh bless op your daughter must be shattered after a day trip from south wales to Llandudno that was be at the very least a six hour round trip
you must all be pooped

Calliopespa · 22/08/2024 20:10

Montydone · 22/08/2024 19:55

OP do you notice what you are doing here? You are dismissing (with stern language) a thoughtful comment by another person and refusing to give it any air time. You are not reflecting on it or wondering whether maybe you could tweak your approach.

Your response right here says a lot for me. She needs some warmth from you and connection and understanding

I think op the posters could have a point about the job loss stress. She may not know the details but children do pick up on stress. Baby talk can be a cry for attention. Even teen girls and some women do it to each other when offering and seeking comfort :” nooooooo! Awww! Sooo sorry.” ( hugs)

Mind you I’m a bit confused about the timeframe as it sounds as though it has been going on longer than the job loss if she’s lost her friends, seen three psychiatrists etc?

Hobnobswantshernameback · 22/08/2024 20:10

Actually it took me 4 and Half hours to drive there for work a few months ago from Cardiff
hope the Orme was worth the drive

Zonder · 22/08/2024 20:10

TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 22/08/2024 19:53

Errr you said in your OP that you'd been sterilised?

Do you think the bit you quoted might explain why OP was sterilised?

ArabellaScott · 22/08/2024 20:11

Stop worrying about whether your child will embarrass you and start wondering why she is struggling to express herself with you.