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Family holiday drama

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familydrama1 · 21/08/2024 21:36

So we are due to go on holiday next year with family. We invited my parents, they booked their own room - they then invited my nephew (who is 17). My brother didn't pay for my nephew or even offer to pay for their place.

I found out I was pregnant recently and can't book the baby's space until they are born. Also there will be no spaces as, the baby is due 4 months before the holiday. Anyone we trust with our child will be on that holiday. We need to take my nephew off the booking and change it to the baby when they are born.

AIBU to take my nephew off the booking (I have spoken to my parents about this and they understand) but I know my brother won't be happy and it will cause drama. Or should just not go and lose thousands 😣

Need an outside perspective pleaseeee

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Summerbay23 · 21/08/2024 23:07

YABU and can’t bump your DN. I’m still confused as to who is with who but your baby is an extra regardless?? So will have to share with you or DH?

6pence · 21/08/2024 23:08

I think it maybe it might be that they can’t book the baby on because it is at max capacity for that age baby already. In which case it won’t make a difference if Dn comes or not.

lemonslimesandallthingsnice · 21/08/2024 23:08

HotDogHotDiggityDog · 21/08/2024 22:52

Hello, I'm a travel agent who specialises in cruise.
Firstly, you absolutely can add on the baby before they are born, they just go down as TBA and you confirm the name once they are born.

I would be absolutely astounded if the ship is already at capacity for next year, this is highly unlikely. I would also find it highly unlikely you would lose thousands with it being next year, your final balance won't be due yet so most cruise lines would allow you to amend for a fee. Which cruise line is it you are due to sail with and I can probably offer you more specific advice? As previous posters have said some cruise lines, P&O being one of them off the top of my head, only allow a certain amount of children per age group so swapping a teenager for a baby wouldn't work anyway.

Are you also aware of the rules of babies going on cruises without being potty trained? They would not be allowed in the pools unless there is a toddler splash area. If the ship you currently have booked doesn't have this, could be worth looking into amending to one that does?

Sorry I just saw your comment, also specialise in cruise and agree with you word for word. X

ElleWoods15 · 21/08/2024 23:08

Either OP is just outright lying about the whole thing (for attention on MN- way to go!) or a nasty person who wants to exclude parents’ grandchild. Either way, not a great look OP.

BrieHugger · 21/08/2024 23:09

@familydrama1 are you planning to say the baby is six months old even though he/she will only be four months old? Because that would be stupid - in a worst case scenario the baby won’t be covered by the ships insurance and you’d have to check your own policy too.

Babies under six months aren’t usually allowed on cruises.

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 21/08/2024 23:09

Look, at the end of the day your parents have booked and paid for your nephew. This means it has fuck all to do with you and there is also fuck all you can do about it as you haven't booked or paid for him.
You got pregnant after the booking so it is now on you to sort it out, not by attempting to bump a teenager from the holiday, but by booking enough rooms to accommodate you and your numerous children.
You can say you can't book another room all you fucking like but an actual travel agent has posted to say you can.
You want people to validate you, we're not going to do that so stop chatting shit and sort out your mess.

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Flossyts · 21/08/2024 23:10

Well you can’t not go- you booked it and are with in laws - that would be really weird.

i would just lay it on table for brother and nephew and ask whether they can figure out a solution because you can’t.

Coldfinch · 21/08/2024 23:12

Taking your nephew out of the booking is absolutely cruel.

if you are worried about having losing money then take out a third party insurance now and cancel when eligible. Booking a holiday that expensive but can’t afford travel insurance - then making someone else pay for your mistake is just woeful.

LlamaNoDrama · 21/08/2024 23:13

Google seems to suggest not all cruises take babies for free either. So will you be paying for half your parents room if half your family is taking it up op?

Coldfinch · 21/08/2024 23:13

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 21/08/2024 23:09

Look, at the end of the day your parents have booked and paid for your nephew. This means it has fuck all to do with you and there is also fuck all you can do about it as you haven't booked or paid for him.
You got pregnant after the booking so it is now on you to sort it out, not by attempting to bump a teenager from the holiday, but by booking enough rooms to accommodate you and your numerous children.
You can say you can't book another room all you fucking like but an actual travel agent has posted to say you can.
You want people to validate you, we're not going to do that so stop chatting shit and sort out your mess.

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Anotherdayanotherdollar · 21/08/2024 23:13

Flossyts · 21/08/2024 23:10

Well you can’t not go- you booked it and are with in laws - that would be really weird.

i would just lay it on table for brother and nephew and ask whether they can figure out a solution because you can’t.

What has it got to do with them?? The grandparents booked and paid for the nephew. The OP has as much right to interfere with their booking as she has with any other passengers booking. Which is zero!

Salumthecat · 21/08/2024 23:14

Do you not like your nephew OP?
Things might be clearer and easier to judge if this is a case of not wanting him to go and if you told us the reasons you would prefer a holiday without him.

You haven’t answered why you can’t book a room in your husband’s name? Multiple people have suggested it now.

I get the feeling you posted to get validation for bumping your nephew off the booking before you approached your parents with the idea, if they have paid for him though it’s highly likely they want him to go!

Just because this was your idea to start with and you invited your parents doesn’t mean that you can now control their holiday they have paid for.

HMW1906 · 21/08/2024 23:17

BrieHugger · 21/08/2024 23:09

@familydrama1 are you planning to say the baby is six months old even though he/she will only be four months old? Because that would be stupid - in a worst case scenario the baby won’t be covered by the ships insurance and you’d have to check your own policy too.

Babies under six months aren’t usually allowed on cruises.

Agree with the above. I used to work as a nurse on a cruise ship. They do not carry medical equipment for babies younger than 6 months old! It would be dangerous and reckless for you to lie about your child’s age and could potentially cost them their life if they were to become unwell.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/08/2024 23:19

3luckystars · 21/08/2024 22:55

Book another room for your husband, say he snores and then add the baby to his room when the baby arrives.

This! And then your Dd can be in with one of you two rather than in with a 17 yo boy which doesn’t sound good to me.

Normallynumb · 21/08/2024 23:19

You can't remove DN from the booking as you didn't pay
You need to suck up the cost of another room in DHs name and then play musical beds when the time comes
Sounds like you'll all need another holiday when you come back!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/08/2024 23:20

HMW1906 · 21/08/2024 23:17

Agree with the above. I used to work as a nurse on a cruise ship. They do not carry medical equipment for babies younger than 6 months old! It would be dangerous and reckless for you to lie about your child’s age and could potentially cost them their life if they were to become unwell.

I wondered this. That’s how it sounded from the sudden jump to “baby will be 6 months”

InTheTrenches88 · 21/08/2024 23:20

You were going to sleep with the 17 year old in your room? That's some holiday, i don't understand why you agreed to that in the first place. Why would the 17 year old even want to go on a cruise with his grandparents and aunt and uncle??

BrieHugger · 21/08/2024 23:21

Summerbay23 · 21/08/2024 23:07

YABU and can’t bump your DN. I’m still confused as to who is with who but your baby is an extra regardless?? So will have to share with you or DH?

Basically, they’ve booked two rooms for soon-to-be 9 people but are only allowed 8.

Room 1 - OP, husband, two of their children
Room 2 - grandparents, nephew, other child

We still don’t know if there are any spare beds in the in-laws cabins to accommodate one of OP’s young kids, in order for the baby to have a space. If there isn’t, the only way the holiday can go ahead is if someone drops out.

OP think it should be the nephew, because it wasn’t her idea to invite him, he hasn’t paid and neither has his dad, aka OPs scary brother. OP is foooomin that now she and her family might have to book and extra room or cancel.

I think that’s right

There is also a question mark about the baby’s age, but maybe OP is just shit at maths. Hmmm.

MrsClatterbuck · 21/08/2024 23:23

Your parents invited your nephew so they can uninvite him and explain why.

Luminiiii · 21/08/2024 23:24

It’s preetttty obvious you just don’t want your nephew there. You seem a little bitter about the fact he’s been invited on your trip that you initiated. Fair enough…but a teeny tiny baby is not a good excuse to uninvite him. Just suck it up. Everything you’ve said about room configurations and full rooms etc doesn’t ring true. Don’t uninvite him, he’s 17 and probably really looking forward to it.

SofieM0 · 21/08/2024 23:24

I’m rubbish at maths - even if it’s the last week of summer school holidays next year and baby is just 6 months old, does that even fit? It’s too late for me to think! I think you’ve all thrown a spanner in the works with the minimum 6 month age requirement and the fact you can book another room with any of the 6 adults as the only passenger for now.

Sunsetbeachhouse · 21/08/2024 23:26

familydrama1 · 21/08/2024 21:58

I have spoken to the cruise line they said we CANNOT add the baby. If we booked another room. We would need another adult - which we don't have.

I do not want to take my nephew off. I booked it for my parents, why would I want to be spiteful.

My room has my other 2 children and husband in there. All other rooms are full. This is the only way. It's not out of spite. We will lose thousands of pounds

Op if this is what the situation is I have no idea why you are here asking the question. You keep arguing your point to anyone that questions you. You don't need validation. If no one has paid you any money for his place and the holiday is ages away , and now the baby needs the spot ( I have no idea about these things by the way) then the baby needs the spot end of. I wouldn't waste your time here anymore and I would instead be speaking to your brother to let him know.. if he can't go then he can't go. That's it.

Elphamouche · 21/08/2024 23:28

OP, you book another room NOW. You add your DH and a child to that room. When baby comes, you move that all around. Or you change your room and book a 5 sleeper/bugger cabin.

I absolutely do understand how this works, I deal with this daily. I know how quickly they fill, but there are ways round this. Of course you can’t add baby until they’re born, you need names as per passport and DOB which you don’t have. But there are ways round this, I don’t think you want this fixed. You wanted us all to agree removing your nephew is the right thing to do. It’s not.

HMW1906 · 21/08/2024 23:29

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/08/2024 23:20

I wondered this. That’s how it sounded from the sudden jump to “baby will be 6 months”

Yep baby was going to be 4 months old in the OP then suddenly became 6 months old in later comments 🤔🙄