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I don't care what issues your kid has you still need to parent them

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Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 19:17

I'm fuming just had a massive argument with my now ex friend because she won't parent her kid. I don't care if your kid is ND, NT or identifies as a tablecloth you still need to parent them. I was at my friends this afternoon with my kids 7 and 4 and her kids 9 and 5. Our eldest kids where sat together nicely watching a film and youngest 2 where playing. Her 5 year old suddenly decides she wants to watch telly and picks the remote control up and changes the channel. My friends response was to the eldest 2 just let her otherwise she will kick off you can watch the rest later. Her eldest just accepted this he's clearly use to it. However I'm not accepting that so I took the remote and put the film back on so with that screaming and tears
Her eldest was agreeing with his mum and saying it's OK I don't mind Which was also annoying me. Then my friend started having a go at me how iv upset her daughter and how the kids didn't even mind watching it later. I struggle with anger issues so at this point I'm losing my shit at her (I know I shouldn't have) and I got my kids and left. I'm still fuming. I know I should of just left straight away but come on what is wrong with people

Yabu. If the eldest 2 where happy to watch it later you should of gone along with it
Yanbu she needs to discipline her daughter

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Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 20:19

2AND2GC · 21/08/2024 20:17

YABU

You're at her house, she's in charge.

If she and her kids are annoying to be around then just see less of them - or meet them at the park, where it's neutral territory and you can make your excuses and wrap things up when you've had enough.

Not the right thing - at all - for you to lose your cool and boot off.

She's not in charge of mistreating my kid just because it's her house

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Goodwitchglenda · 21/08/2024 20:20

Walkaround · 21/08/2024 20:19

OP - you appear to have very inflexible, black and white opinions and extreme difficulty regulating your emotions. Any views on what might have caused your issues?

Hahahaha incredible

GivingitToGod · 21/08/2024 20:20

Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 20:16

I'm not apologising she should be apologising to the 2 eldest children for not sticking up for them

Your response confirms what I said in the post; you have a complete lack of insight/understanding.

Puffalicious · 21/08/2024 20:21

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 21/08/2024 20:09

Yabu.
Not your house, your tv or your rules.

This is a regular occurrence in our house, it’s a massive issue but DS5 with ASD / Autism hasn’t learnt to wait or take turns yet. He just has huge meltdowns which can quickly become violent.

when it’s just family at home we follow a routine of enforcing a short waiting time that he is able to manage because regularly practicing this is helping him slowly develop this skill). Then he has a turn. Then DD gets to finish her programme.

however, if we had people over we wouldn’t do this. DS is already heightened by having people over and less able to tolerate things. So I’d not have challenged him as it could have be violent meltdown within seconds which I would rather avoid in front of guests.

it’s not a case of not parenting. It’s a case of parenting in the way which is needed in that particular circumstance.

Absolutely this. If you don't have an ND child you have no idea of their reality.

Angry, shouting person = no friend of mine. Angry, shouty person in my own home= damaging to my children.

Bex5490 · 21/08/2024 20:21

I can’t imagine anyone I know doing this. I think you were a very rude guest to think that it was your decision to make.

I thought the kid was going to have hit someone or done something terrible. Maybe your friend thought that in order for all of you to enjoy a nice day together this was the easiest solution? She may have handled the situation differently without guests there.

Why was it your choice to make?

Vivi89 · 21/08/2024 20:21

Sorry but your post stinks of someone privileged to have NT children and therefore doesn’t have ND adding a massive layer of complexity to the already extremely tough job that is parenting.

So does your attitude stink towards people who identify as a different sex by the sounds of it.

YABU. Your friend was probably just peace keeping. Sounds like you’re the one in the wrong here.

Strictlymad · 21/08/2024 20:21

I don’t think you’re wrong, I to feel very sorry for compliant older siblings having to roll over/have their Lego broken/colouring ruined by younger (tantrumimh) siblings. Mum gets a quiet life while eldest suffers. I don’t think your way of handling it was ideal op but I stand by what you intended

StrawberrySwitch · 21/08/2024 20:22

Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 20:19

She's not in charge of mistreating my kid just because it's her house

Mistreating? Really? Then make an excuse and leave.

Frenzi · 21/08/2024 20:22

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/08/2024 20:16

An ND adult can usually manage to some extent their emotions and overwhelm.

An ND child can’t. This is the difference.

Mine was a hard ND child and is an utterly lovely adult. What changed? She grew up,

But how do they learn to regulate if they are not taught?

Do we just let them get away with whatever until 18 and then say, hey you are an adult - regulate yourself

Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 20:22

Walkaround · 21/08/2024 20:19

OP - you appear to have very inflexible, black and white opinions and extreme difficulty regulating your emotions. Any views on what might have caused your issues?

I have bpd

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LostittoBostik · 21/08/2024 20:22

You were at her house? And you kicked off at her in her own home? If so, that's awful behaviour - and far less acceptable than taking a call about which battles to fight over dividing up screen time

bryceQ · 21/08/2024 20:22

Don't you see the irony that you said you "lost your shit" and have anger issues but you're not allowing a child (who has additional needs?) to do the same?

paddyclampster · 21/08/2024 20:23

Have we actually established that the child is ND?

If she hasn't then I don't blame you, her daughter sounds like a pain in the neck. She will struggle if her mum doesn't parent her properly soon.

Even if she has, I'm not sure letting her get away with murder is the answer!

Goodwitchglenda · 21/08/2024 20:24

Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 20:22

I have bpd

And do you think people should make allowances for your bad behaviour because of your diagnosed condition? Does it justify your children having to witness your rage outbursts?
How did your parents parent you?

Bex5490 · 21/08/2024 20:24

Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 20:00

She can think what she wants I don't give a shit atleast I treat my kids equally and fairly and they won't grow up thinking mum had a favourite

Well they also won’t grow up with much of an example of how to behave in other people’s homes either 🤷🏽‍♀️

OpizpuHeuvHiyo · 21/08/2024 20:24

It's their house so their rules
You can't assume that your friend "isn't parenting" - sometimes you have to pick your battles and sometimes the comfort of visiting guests isn't the top priority eg if you know that a tantrum trigger now will mean none of the fanily sleeps tonight.
It wasn't your call.
If it was your house, you wouldbe reasonable to say "in this house the rule us that the film is allowed to finish before we watch something else. You'll have to wait." And your friend has the option to go home if that's the best decision at that point.

You were correct to leave. You should have done so earlier, before the yelling.

femfemlicious · 21/08/2024 20:24

Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 20:22

I have bpd

This explains everything.

notquiteruralbliss · 21/08/2024 20:24

Wasn't 'parented' and didn't 'parent' my DCs. As far as I am concerned, 'parent is a noun not a verb. Somehow, we all survived and developed enough situational awareness to become successful adults.

BowlOfNoodles · 21/08/2024 20:25

Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 20:22

I have bpd

Bpd isn't your former friends issue how dare you judge a 5 year old with extra needs when you have your own!!

CandyLeBonBon · 21/08/2024 20:25

"She's not in charge of mistreating my kid just because it's her house"

And how could you have handled this differently op, so that your own unregulated emotions were managed better, thus modelling the sort of behaviour you'd prefer to see in your friend's daughter. As we all know, children enact what they see?

How could you have handled this situation differently do you think?

HonoraBridge · 21/08/2024 20:25

You are right OP. Currently 58% say YABU - no wonder the country / world is going down the drain.

Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 20:26

bryceQ · 21/08/2024 20:22

Don't you see the irony that you said you "lost your shit" and have anger issues but you're not allowing a child (who has additional needs?) to do the same?

If have no issue with how the child acted my issue is how the mum handled it or more to the point didn't

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Blueblell · 21/08/2024 20:26

You are crazy - she was keeping the peace as she had guests. Not about not parenting - 5 year olds can be a nightmare whether they are ND or not.

CandyLeBonBon · 21/08/2024 20:26

@Frenzi do you have an ND child?

Differentstarts · 21/08/2024 20:26

paddyclampster · 21/08/2024 20:23

Have we actually established that the child is ND?

If she hasn't then I don't blame you, her daughter sounds like a pain in the neck. She will struggle if her mum doesn't parent her properly soon.

Even if she has, I'm not sure letting her get away with murder is the answer!

She doesn't have a diagnosis

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