To feel so upset about the government censorship?

[Utterlydisillusioned]

This has just appeared in my news feed and I feel so upset and disillusioned. I was a labour voter, thinking we voted the bad guys out but I'm now really scared about what we've let in...what on earth have we done...? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/08/17/education-secretary-bridget-phillipson-private-school-tax-r/

https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/aug/17/goves-free-schools-increase-segregation-and-harm-nearby-schools-says-study

The other side to the story… as far as I know UCL is carrying out a study on free schools which does not even conclude until 2025 yet these stories are being published. The reason some of us are pissed off with VAT on private schools is because it is just the beginning of certain commie education policies that will harm the country. It’s symbolic and interventionist and no other country does it. We agree that poor children need raising up but not at the expensive of other good parents who have plugged gaps and invested in their DCs. The hard left want the middle classes to somehow mix with disadvantaged kids and raise them up. It’s not going to work. Nor is VAT going to make money as the aspirational demographic will just adjust their behaviour and chose state plus. And some of the current women in charge are very green and inexperienced and bulldozering ideology through. It’s disappointing.

This is how this type of people get in. Once people stop voting or go for minority candidates they get in. You were fed a lie. I hate to say it but there were many people saying they were going to be worse just to be met with cries about scaremongering. That woman is actually quite dangerous but let’s wait before I get crucified again. Give it two years so that we can have that conversation.

It’s the same with the winter fuel allowance. Sure we can morally agree that rich pensioners should not get the winter fuel allowance but scrapping it in this way won’t save money if those on the cusp of affordability get cold, ill and spend longer in hospital. Should be means tested and burden to repay in their court like child benefit. If you have assets above 500k and income above 40k you must repay it type thing and if not, make it tax fraud. But don’t go punishing single old women, it’s cruel and ill thought out.

2 wings of the same bird.

They are inexperienced because tinkering at the edges with policies like WFA and VAT on private schools that do not save actual proper money and just cause more division and make them unpopular is madness. They will spend years just arguing about petty stuff like that and get zero actual stuff done. The real urgency is making work for all pay a proper wage for all so that the state does not have to keep topping up. All honest hard work needs to pay a proper wage. That is how to protect the working classes.

Labour has won 63% of the seats in the House of Commons, at the time of writing, and 33.7% of the vote share.

Labour’s vote share this time around was lower than in 2017 when it won 41% and 262 (40%) seats, but higher than in 2019 when it achieved 32.9% of the vote share and 202 (31%) seats.

https://fullfact.org/election-2024/general-election-result-numbers/

But the OPs job is to read and understand media don't you know.

The same as mine is the Queen of England 😂😉

How do you know that these will not save money, or indeed that nothing will get done?
Rwanda scheme stopped straight away
Bibbi Stockholm barge - contract not to be renewed
Green energy - ban on onshore wind farms stopped
Dealing with ignorant racist rioters and people inciting racism and violence.
Increasing public sector work pay
They've been there for 6 weeks.

That doesn’t explain how the majority will vanish though. By-elections are only held on specific circumstances and not because constituents dislike their MP or fancy a change.

Another thing - people failing to understand tactical voting and posting graphs and charts to support their aims just look plain silly.
#GTTO - Carol Voderman anybody?

Torygraph. Nuff said.

How on earth can someone complain on one of the most widely used sites in the UK of "censorship" ?

It reminds me of a guy - can't remember his name - but they were being suppressed and not allowed free speech. I know this because I read it in the Telegraph. Then the Daily Mail. Then the Express. Then they went on Twitter to say how they were being suppressed with links to their Facebook page where they explained how they were being suppressed. Then they gave an interview on the BBC and LBC about not having freedom of speech. They also made some videos for YouTube where they explained how they were being suppressed.

Oh, yes, I remember their name now. Nigel Farage.

There is a difference between concern over immigration and racism. Immigrants are frequently white, and I think we are all pretty sure that white people don’t really suffer from overt racism in the UK.

Please don’t conflate concern over strain on infrastructure and restriction of income growth for the working class with far right racism.

How disingenuous.

Trouble with anecdata - very localised, can be true in one place and not five miles down the road. Often there will be good state schools very close to good private schools - and conversely, if you live in a down at heel council estate your choice can be two local awful schools and a decent one two bus rides away.

And then of course there are the inevitable preconceptions about state schools always being inferior to private when the reality is much more complex than that.

Of course the policy hasn't nearly been enacted yet, so this is basically the Torygraph shitstirring. Surprise, surprise.

... I was just confirming that the deleted comments by the education secretary were far from hateful. They merely expressed a different view/concern. No reason to delete.

STILL refusing to accept that this is normal, everyday admin practice on Facebook and that Tory MPs remove negative comments, too.

Take your grievances to official channels, maybe? Rather than whining on socials?

They've had PLENTY of notice. If they've left it to the last minute to apply for a state school place, that's their fault.

Labour won a large majority of seats with VAT on private education as a core manifesto commitment. State schools badly need the money and it's wonderful that children will be able to start the day on a good breakfast, ready to learn.

You've been crucified before?🤣🤣🤣

Well we know from the Bible it's not always a sure thing.

😂😂😂
Cheers I needed that x

I was going to say that being disingenuous is better than just making snide comments that contribute nothing except to make the maker’s mean little virtue signalling heart glow, but I just realised that of course the snide little remarks are just a variation on thought cancelling cliches - all you want to do is shut down debate.

If you shut down debate, you are on the side of the powerful. Full stop. Freedom of thought and speech are important human rights and only the evil want anybody deprived of them. They are quite different from violent thuggery.

How are they "robbing pensioners of their pensions"?

How will state schools get more money if they suddenly have an influx of ex-private school pupils needing school places? Surely this will just increase costs to state schools who will also have the burden of increased class sizes, pressure on school infrastructure of all these extra pupils etc whilst the Government has to fund all these new state school places.

Can someone please answer where the money comes from to fund extra state school places for the influx of ex-private school pupils?