Why do people think it’s cool?

[Emz1212]

To pretend they don’t know who trashy celebs are?

I think the whole MM news has highlighted it. But I notice it all the time on social media media when there is something about say the Kardashians and you get a comment saying “who?”

Now to be clear I don’t follow this type of celebrity and I have never watched a single episode of the Kardashians in my life - but I find it impossible that anybody under 60 doesn’t know who they are.

why do people do this?

@Rachie1973

i know, the effort they've put in & got no ££ out of it 🥲. I always hope they at least feel they've learnt a lot.

obviously don't know what goes on behind the scenes or why this is the case, but it seems unfair they let some of the houses stay on the market after the cut off, but not others.

maybe we need a thread in the tv section 😂

I'm a British immigrant in NZ. I had a notification from my BBC news app at 4am about these two and I thought 'who the fuck are they?'

It was the fourth news story on the app. Read it and it told me he's a boxer and she's been on love island.

I don't follow boxing and I've never watched love island (yes it's on TV here) and I've seriously never heard of them. Not sure how hard it would be to realise that many people would be in the same situation. DH and my parents. My friends in Nz certainly. A large proportion of my Uk friends definitely too.

I really dont understand how it's made it to the news never mind the fourth story!

So, the key take home from op’s answers is that there are some people who know mm and others that don’t (me included, before today). Of those that don’t, I don’t think anyone has claimed to be ‘cool’, but rather simply uninterested in celebrity culture.

I wonder if there is a little projection at play in your irritation op? Are you projecting a sense of superiority onto the uninterested group, because subconsciously you feel a level of shame/inadequacy/un-cool/etc. about being interested/absorbed in the lives of these people? When people say “who?” it activates those feelings of self judgement which is too painful for your ego to own. It is much less self destructive to feel it as anger to the other.

It really isn’t that deep. People have different interests, different ways to spend their down time and relax. It isn’t a judgement on how you spend your time.

The only other thing I can think of is, are you Molly/Mollie Mae, or someone close to her?

Do you all go film or book threads and go “what?? I’ve simply never heard of it!”? If you’re interested you’d google the title.

So why did you not make a thread about David Beckham? Why make a thread about Molly woman and then pressing the same ridiculous point by throwing major cultural figures in?
At this point I think you are just a big thick....
(written before my first cup of coffee)

Because I really don't.
And I don't care what you think about it.

I've genuinely never heard of Molly Mae until this post - and still have no idea who she is, and really don't care. But I'm a bit different to your average person. I couldn't give a toss about most humans other than the few I like, and I don't really watch much TV.

I thought MM was mainstream media.
I don't watch any reality tv, I don't think I'm cool. I'm not interested in it. I'd rather go for a walk or read a book.

When my DC was a teen I watched lots of stuff with her like Love Island
Fun when with her but never watch any of it now she has moved out
So I know some of the celebs from that

There's so many reality shows and I don't watch them. I used to watch Big Brother and I'm a Celeb. I'm never watched Love Island, The Only Way is Essex etc so I don't really know who many of them are.

I dont think I'm cool. I just don't care.

I’m too old to care about being ‘cool’ but I don’t get how the OP doesn’t understand it’s easy to avoid Celebs if you have no interest in that world.

I simply have zero interest in reality tv, pop music, influencers etc and therefore 99% of people from those worlds pass me by. I might recognise the odd name but I couldn’t identify them if they were standing in my garden.

It’s nothing to do with being cool - it’s simply having no interest.

I don't think people are doing it to be cool. I genuinely don't know who these people are (obviously I've heard of the Kardashians because they've been around for so long and are so influential they've filtered through to the media I personally consume).

Celebrity culture is just like football: boring to people who aren't into it. I couldn't tell you who the England manager is either.

OP. You’re accusing posters of missing the point but I think you are.

Not knowing who a particular Kardashian or who MM are is not the same as David Beckham or Donald Trump.

Exactly.

I've heard of the Kardashians but don't know any of their names or what they look like. They could come up and talk to me and I'd have no idea who they were. Never heard of MM or Tommy until this post. Doesn't sound like I'm missing out on much!

I'm not trying to be cool. I'm just not interested in reality TV and have never watched it. I don't read celeb magazines or go on social media so have no idea about any of the people from Love Island, Towie, etc.

I was kind of agreeing with you until the "under 60" line. Wtf is that about??

I have no idea who 95% of these people are and care even less. I don't watch or listen to any of them. I have heard of Shagged Married Annoyed but had no idea who Rosie Ramsey was when she appeared on a Robson Green programme. DP had no clue who she was and had never heard of the podcast. Are we typical? Dunno.

This. I don't think as many people give a damn as media like to think.

I have never seen an episode of any of it and even if I did, the chance of committing the names to memory or caring is even less likely. I am more interested in ewe oestrous cycles and wishing you could still get original creosote. I don't think I'm weird.

I sat next to a very famous actor in a restaurant in London and didn't realise he was famous until I saw him on a TV advert two years later and then Googled him as I thought I was going mad. Their lives impact me in no way so why should I be interested or spend emotion on them. I think it's bizarre.

It's a lifestyle thing. Yes, we are late 50's now but we didn't do celebrity culture even in our twenties; we're outdoorsy, bookish, cat loving. We no longer have a TV and rarely ever look at news unless someone mentions something significant (like the recent events in Southport) then we'll have a quick look at The Guardian website. We don't follow sport, go to the cinema or read magazines so therefore 'celebrities' are outside our interests. I have no idea why you would think we are trying to be "cool" just by living our life in the same way we always have done. I genuinely haven't heard of any of the famous people who hit the headlines.

I'm under 60. I'm cool and a role model to some people, and would be considered extremely uncool by very many others.

AFAIK, the Kardashians are a family in which one member has large buttocks and became famous for this, maybe through a reality TV show, and the rest are famous for being relatives of the one with the big butt. They then all had their own show, or something like that?

MM - I'd assumed that was 'mass media' in the OP. I've never heard of Mollie Mae, nor Tommy Fury, though I've learned from posts about that the two were a thing and have broken up. Fury isn't a common surname... is Tommy related to Tyson?

I don't pretend to know very little about most celebrities, I genuinely know very little about many celebrities. It's an aspect of who I am, something I'm comfortable with, and not something I feel the need to broadcast, though if someone tries to engage me in conversation or elicit my views about a celebrity I know little or nothing about, I'll simply let them know I've nothing to contribute to the discussion as I know naff all about the person. I wouldn't comment 'Who?' on social media posts about celebrities, as I'm generally not seeing social media posts about celebrities.

It's actually very easy to avoid knowing much about many celebrities if you have no interest in them - social media algorithms don't present me with Kardashian or Mollie Mae content, and I don't seek it out. Celebrity news isn't a topic of conversation where I work or amongst my friends, so there's no social driver for me to learn this stuff, and my kids generally don't mention celebrities at home at present, though that may change as they get older. My eldest has heard of Andrew Tate in school lessons; I was already aware of some of Mr Tate's views and we've looked at some of his content together and talked about it.

We do pretty well for niche knowledge about people we've mostly never met when it comes to sports stars, for a small subset of sports and nationalities. My eldest was genuinely amazed a few years ago to discover that none of their friends knew who the people who won the Olympics in their favourite sport. We took that opportunity to re-iterate that people are individuals, families are all different, not every family does the same things as us or likes the same things as us, and that's reflected in who and what people know about. They no longer find it impossible to imagine that people can exist in very different information environments and consume very different content, and understand that this is reflected in what they do and don't know about about.

Haha! No. They just all look the bloody same.
(Although I realised later that I assumed she was white. She might not be, in which case my description would probably be totally off!)

The think is OP, you yourself have described them as 'trashy'.

Most people have a fair bit of trash of their own in their lives that they would prefer wasn't there. Why would they want more 'trash'?

But you nailed it. 👍

(You’re right, of course: “imagine a young female influencer” produces exactly the description you gave, for the reasons you gave. Again, as you say, on the assumption that it’s a white influencer.)

Being asked to “imagine a young female influencer on holiday” immediately with me conjures up images of happy pictures from Dubai. So I googled. And lo!

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12923133/amp/molly-mae-hague-swimsuit-bambi-dubai-holiday-tommy-fury.html

I googled MM last night and saw she is a social media influencer and was on love island, I’ve never watched it. I don’t follow it on social media, I could not tell you a single thing about it or know the names of the contestants on the show, I also hadn’t heard of Messi until last month and all I know is he plays football.

I genuinely had never heard of MM. I don't watch Love Island or live TV very much.

I'm not cool, I'm very nerdy. I'm not lying about not knowing the names or profiles of "trashy celebs".

I've heard of the really big household name ones like the Kardashians but not actively following the same interests or public events as you does not make me "trying to be cool".