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Feels like there's way too many Men on MN

243 replies

Moonshine5 · 07/08/2024 22:46

I probably am being unreasonable however I'm on here primarily for female perspectives.

OP posts:
ThisDog · 08/08/2024 20:41

You've got a thread goading women into slagging off men (unsuccessfully thank goodness). Another about a female friend being a "catfish". Another about your wife being jealous of you driving around a female colleague. And the seemingly obligatory sex thread. That's not even getting into your posts on other threads...
You are the embodiment of the problematic men we're talking about.

I'm very wary of that poster. So many red flags in his posting history. It's been noted by other mumsnetters too.

OneRoseCat · 08/08/2024 21:46

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Hucklemuckle · 09/08/2024 00:46

Grapesichord · 07/08/2024 23:09

Mumsnet HQ makes it clear that the site is for all parents and they have strict rules about posts which are sexist and try to 'chase away' men.
Why not look up the Mumsnet settings page with info on talk guidelines. It will help make the aims of this site clear.

That's a bit weird. There are loads of people who are not parents on here

SnowFrogJelly · 09/08/2024 00:47

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Bellsandthistle · 09/08/2024 06:09

Well, we could start a “women only” website, but we’d only be accused of being “man-haters” 🤪 and would be immediately infiltrated by men, anyway.

Nobody is trying to ban men from mumsnet, but the pure frothing at the very idea women be allowed a space to discuss amongst ourselves is…revealing.

bragpuss · 09/08/2024 06:31

Bellsandthistle · 09/08/2024 06:09

Well, we could start a “women only” website, but we’d only be accused of being “man-haters” 🤪 and would be immediately infiltrated by men, anyway.

Nobody is trying to ban men from mumsnet, but the pure frothing at the very idea women be allowed a space to discuss amongst ourselves is…revealing.

This is total garbage.

Some women would like to ban men from MN. They have said so. There do appear to be a lot of man haters. Look at the thread title FFS. No man has said they have any problem with a women only space. Many people have simply said MN is not for women only under its own rules which is just a fact.

Waterboatlass · 09/08/2024 06:38

I'm more than happy for men to be here (I'm not a mum). However, gents, when you are posting and see the need to point out your sex on certain topics, please can you think of some new ways to do this. 'man here', and 'from the male perspective' and the like are getting a bit irritating!

Bellsandthistle · 09/08/2024 07:25

bragpuss · 09/08/2024 06:31

This is total garbage.

Some women would like to ban men from MN. They have said so. There do appear to be a lot of man haters. Look at the thread title FFS. No man has said they have any problem with a women only space. Many people have simply said MN is not for women only under its own rules which is just a fact.

I’ve read the thread. I disagree with your assessment. 👍

HowardTJMoon · 09/08/2024 07:59

@Waterboatlass do you have any suggestions?

CurlewKate · 09/08/2024 08:14

@Moonshine5 I agree. I'd love this to be a woman only site. But obviously I have to accept that it isn't.

Violay · 09/08/2024 10:30

YABU. Women and men need to be talking and understanding each other more not less. What if I wanted a 'parental' perspective? There are probably as many posters on here without children as with them; I don't agree that it is mainly a 'mums' forum and if you dare query why child free posters are here I can guarantee you will be ripped to shreds. Men are just as deserving of support and insight as women.

CasperGutman · 09/08/2024 10:47

Disneydatknee88 · 07/08/2024 23:57

I've noticed it lately too and tbh what is being posted by men lately is self serving garbage. The replies aren't exactly supportive and I don't support what they are saying either. It's all sex and relationship stuff. This is predominantly a mums forum (hence the name) mums are not going to side with you telling us you think you married the wrong person because she won't have sex with you 3000 times a week..jog on.

You say that "what is being posted by men lately is self serving garbage". That seems a bit of a sweeping generalisation. How do you know which posts are by men, unless they make it obvious by either saying so or playing up to negative male stereotypes?

Could it be that you've recently noticed some posts that were self serving garbage that were by men. But it's also possible that a fair few reasonable and/or helpful posts you read were also written by men, but these men weren't making an issue of their being men, didn't feel the need to announce it, and you didn't even wonder whether they were women or men because, you know, they were just people contributing to a discussion in a reasonable way?

5128gap · 09/08/2024 10:59

There are too many men, and presumably women also, on MN with pro men agendas. I have no problem with men on here in principle but get very irritated with the frequency of repetition of the same old whining about 'double standards' 'if a man said that' and so on.
For one thing, moaning about the advice women give is their only contribution, almost never anything as an alternative to help the OP, so its fairly clear they're haunting the threads for the express purpose of 'calling out' the percieved sexism.
For another, I really couldn't care less if there is a pro women bias on MN. In fact, given the pro male bias pretty much everywhere else, I consider it a strength of the site. And it's not like there's no other options for those who disagree.
So men, great. Men's 'rights', no thank you.

CurlewKate · 09/08/2024 15:26

@Violay "Men are just as deserving of support and insight as women"

Of course. Nothing to stop them setting up their own forum!

DonnaHadDee · 09/08/2024 15:29

Very much the same here OP, I'm typically more interested in female perspectives, but of course anyone can and does join up. It would be a useful filter!

As a software developer, it's very easy to run some analysis tools and estimate the gender of the poster if they have any significant posting history. These tools are very accurate. I've used that to review some posts from time to time.

Let me tell you there are some well known mansplainers, especially in the politics and middle east area. I won't name them here, but a few of us have a virtual chuckle about them in PM. It is rather amusing :)

5128gap · 09/08/2024 15:41

Violay · 09/08/2024 10:30

YABU. Women and men need to be talking and understanding each other more not less. What if I wanted a 'parental' perspective? There are probably as many posters on here without children as with them; I don't agree that it is mainly a 'mums' forum and if you dare query why child free posters are here I can guarantee you will be ripped to shreds. Men are just as deserving of support and insight as women.

In my experience, women spend large amounts of time listening to men talk as it is, and many of us feel we do not lack understanding of the things they wish to say. Quite honestly, the chance would be a fine thing. I find it very refreshing to know that the majority of people 'speaking' will be women for a change. If men want to join in I don't have a problem with that, but I don't need 'Man here!' to give me any unique and special understanding of a topic from his perspective of being one individual man. What he has to say is if no greater importance than the women commenting.

brunettemic · 09/08/2024 16:11

Meh, I don’t really care. Might give a more rounded view and given how utterly batshit some of the female perspectives on here are that’s not a bad thing.

Sux2buthen · 09/08/2024 16:26

CurlewKate · 09/08/2024 15:26

@Violay "Men are just as deserving of support and insight as women"

Of course. Nothing to stop them setting up their own forum!

They don't need to, they can join this oneGrin

romyindy · 09/08/2024 16:48

invisiblecat · 07/08/2024 23:03

If you are asking for recipes, have ingrowing toenails, need advice about estate agents, your cat has gone into labour in your airing cupboard, you have just been made redundant, your relative has died, your dog has eaten chocolate, you need to know a good hotel near the airport in Madrid or you baby just won't sleep, why on Earth would it matter?

You won't find many men on those threads. You'll find an abundance of them on dating threads, the relationship section, and, apparently, the sex topic (if that still exists).

CurlewKate · 09/08/2024 17:57

@Sux2buthen "They don't need to, they can join this one"

Yep. As usual-women make something and men move in on it....🤣

Sux2buthen · 09/08/2024 17:59

I think it's been stated it was co founded by a man as well.
At the end of the day, it's just an online chat forum, all are welcome as it should be

HowardTJMoon · 09/08/2024 18:11

CurlewKate · 09/08/2024 17:57

@Sux2buthen "They don't need to, they can join this one"

Yep. As usual-women make something and men move in on it....🤣

I believe it was more like "women make something and actively invite men in".

InterIgnis · 09/08/2024 18:30

Regrdless of the name, it’s not a site exclusively for women any more than it’s a site exclusively for parents 🤷🏻‍♀️

ShiningforLeeBertie · 09/08/2024 18:32

I saw a man in Mothercare once, should I have called the police?

FrippEnos · 09/08/2024 19:03

Bellsandthistle · 09/08/2024 06:09

Well, we could start a “women only” website, but we’d only be accused of being “man-haters” 🤪 and would be immediately infiltrated by men, anyway.

Nobody is trying to ban men from mumsnet, but the pure frothing at the very idea women be allowed a space to discuss amongst ourselves is…revealing.

How would anyone know that you had set up a woman only website?
Presumably it would be private and something of an echo chamber.

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