DH’s attitude re riots etc upsetting and angering me

[Pinkycloud]

I feel so sick. Every time we talk about the riots, DH comes out with ‘well people are angry, etc’. He says he doesn’t condone violence, but there’s always a ‘but’. He voted Reform, I voted Lib Dem. I tell him he sounds racist in some of the comments he makes, which he vehemently denies.

He’s a loving, hardworking husband and father but… this! He is honestly a good man. I don’t know how to deal with it other than banning the subject. Has anyone else got very different political views from their spouse or partner?

We just had an election so I don’t understand why anyone feels they’re not being listened too. We live in a democracy and people voted against the Tories and their Rwanda policy and most people voted against Reform. I wouldn’t be with anyone who said they understand the scum that are taking part in these riots.

Brilliant post. I wrote a similar on a different thread.

DH and I have differing political and religious views. I can't say I always understand his views, especially on religion as im agnostic but i can respect it. People are entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. I think the world must be incredibly small for some posters. You surround yourselves with people who only think the same way as you do.

Again, ‘Not listened to?’ It’s not as if politicians were hanging off my every word 20 years ago…. It was ever thus, and almost everybody can legitimately feel they are unheard, there are 60 million of us. But politicians make decisions that they believe are in the best interest of the country, rightly or wrongly, and not according to some particular group interest.
FWIW, 20 years ago we had a booming economy, and record levels of employment,

Would be a complete deal breaker for me. The nazi party started out by people having sympathy for them and understanding how they felt. Ok I know I am being a bit extreme there but

I wouldn’t be able to stay with someone like that. Doesn’t sound like a good man to me.

The vote. Lots of debate about suffragettes versus suffragists. But outside women's suffrage there are clearly points when most people think civil disobediance including literal violence is justified - e.g. the American war of Independence (against us), French resistance in WW2. I think though that there is a really high bar for that to be justified. Really really high. Because even legitimate grievances/causes lead to bloodshed and festering resentment for decades The right to vote where you don't have a voice or any legal way of expressing yourself might have been a just cause for people in Boston or women. But we just had a sodding election. People can vote, people can see their MP, people can hold signs. Lots of people do. People can't glue themselves to the road blocking ambulances (extinction rebellion), or set fire to things ("anti-racist" rioters in 2011, "anti-immigration" rioters now) without expecting consequences.

I think violence in the name of opposing racism in particular is a very stupid idea. If you already live somewhere the majority population are oppressing you, setting fire to their stuff is not a good plan. There is a reason Martin Luther King used the tactics he did. Anti-fa are trouble causing idiots. So was the man shouting "free Palestine" as he slashed that woman's car tyre.

If i were your husband I'd file for divorce and find a wife who doesn't think she can control my thoughts and opinions.

No it's not, but it shows that immigration has helped with growth. Something the UK is not doing on its own (that's a concern in itself).

It goes against the rhetoric that immigration is a strain on our country's resources, being my main point!

And actually where I live, schools rely on these immigrants to keep open.

Also multiplier effect - demand increases spending which in turn increases growth so I think what you've mentioned re services is probably included in the whole growth report

Eww I couldn’t live with anyone who voted lib dem , how utterly disgusting…..

I would find that too hard to tolerate. Sorry OP. it would be a deal breaker for me. The only sensible, calm and human response to the actions of these violent, racist thugs is utter horror and condemnation. Anyone supporting their actions in anyway would not be people I would want in my life.

Superb post.
Fancy standing as an MP?

Why. What of their policies do you find so objectionable you couldn’t tolerate someone who had voted for them?

Is he goong out and rioting. I dont expect he is or will in the near future. Dont discuss politics and tell him you dissagree with him and that you dont want to know, then get on with your life.

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I flipped to page 2 and just found this funny at the top of the thread. Thanks for the laugh😂😂

<Wipes tears>

(( No I'm not taking it at all seriously before I get jumped on))

Same here.

Op , when he starts wearing a balaclava and throwing bread rolls at the tv when the news is on then thats the time to get your suitcase out 📺 🥖 🥖🥖🥖

Differing parties, at least he voted, you can agree to disagree. Not condoning violence.

Not a bot 🤗Well how about not cancelling the Rwanda flight for a start?

Politics, to paraphrase, is for life, not just elections. Nobody should be able to forget about it, it’s part of everyday life.

@Pinkycloud So why does he think the mindless rioters are targeting and physically attacking the people, the places, the businesses and possessions of certain people that they are? Why does he think the verbal language and graffiti is racist? What does he think the rioters are rioting about?

You are married to a racist.

Someone close to me was trying to say TR was misunderstood and sounded sympathetic about the rioting thugs. I sent them a video. They were shocked and stfu.

Well this is a pile of bollocks.

1. People in boats aren’t arriving illegally. There’s zero chance you haven’t been made aware already that arriving by any means and then claiming asylum is not illegal.
2. Millions are being spent housing them because Tories took the deliberate choice not to assess very many claims so they could build up members to create a crisis for their own reasons (not least so their mates could make a fortune from letting hotel rooms to the government).
3. The Labour government absolutely acknowledges there is a problem and has announced a series of measures to clear the backlog and reduce numbers risking the channel crossing.
4. You’re even wrong about the weather. Riots happen when it’s hot.

It would be a ridiculous thing to end an otherwise harmonious and successful relationship over. Maybe try seeing the nuance in his point of view and failing that just agree to disagree.

Radicalised??? WTF!
That some people are rightly worried about unfettered undocumented males being foisted on their communities? We don't know who these incomers are given their chucking phones and documents overboard!

Have you watched the boats coming ashore this morning? Don't think there was a female among them.

And then watching / hearing those disenfranchised people being cast as' Far Right' by our PM? The optics are everything in this. And Starmer hasn't shown himself to be verbally sure footed so far.

I wonder how many on here will be so happy defending the "scatter dispersal "of these migrants to your local councils, the Labour government is intending to implement. They will shortly be in a HMO next to you!

And hey ho....once the universities start going bust ( now numbers are down) and halls closing they'll be in halls aswell.
And our young can't get housing.

Thats who we should be spending our hard earned tax money on. Making things better for our youth of all ethnicities.

Looks like rain, so hopefully that will cool any rioting this evening.
Seems like men especially enjoy a good old riot.

Pic from 1831. The statue still stands.

Bristol.