To blame Nigel Farage personally for this mess.

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Some people are fundamentally unpleasant. We know that. Some people. a tiny minority, hold views that are unacceptable to general society. We had a system whereby they knew they were better off keeping their poison silent in their heads. Farage has given them a cloak of respectability, and a way of connecting with other likeminded psychos. And he has organised them. Now look where we are.

It is going to be interesting to see how many people convicted for these riots are the same people convicted in 2011. Some people will just jump on any excuse to join in and stir up disorder.

These people would be better off finding a sporting outlet for their energy and aggression, and learning to discipline it. But Farage has kicked it all up, purely because he needed personal supporters for personal power, and saw this demographic as an untapped source of numbers.

"Not me guv, I'm just standing here". Slimy weasel. Vile man as are all his supporters and imitators.

That's a long-winded way to say that you can't find anything that's he's said that's racist.

For those lacking in critical thinking, yes.

You're clutching at straws.

People are responsible for their own actions

That's not true or incitement wouldn't be a crime.

An opportunistic, race baiting arsehole. Riding this tiger to further his own grift.

he’s looking for his own Trump January 6th cmoment - the ill educated morons buying into his schtick are nothing more than useful idiots to him. His concern is not for their quality of life. They are being used, shamelessly, and they are too stupid to see it.

Exactly this.

This...
It's up to a person as a separate individual to take responsibility for their own actions..

Trouble is a lot of these people go by what they think their rights are while giving no thought to their responsibilities.
It's not a new thing but recent events show its neither no long a small minority.

Completely agree with you @MoonAndStarsAndSky .
It's become 'trendy' to hate on people like Farage. He actively says he doesn't agree with the rioting and I believe he has become the scapegoat for people refusing to want to believe that the UK is facing a very real problem.

Exactly this. The thugs are responsible for their own actions. Those rioting are thugs but there is a much bigger conversation that needs to be had regarding mass immigration. The majority concerned about mass immigration are not all 'far right extremists'.

No I don’t blame Nigel Farage personally, what a stupid comment.
As far as I know he didn’t tell people to go out and riot nor be violent.
Ever heard of grown adults taking responsibility for their own actions?

If that’s true in all cases why are people in prison then ? Crimes such as joint enterprise when one person murders another but the other involved also get found guilty?

Why are those people also convicted?

The well educated, much admired Tory ministers hold a lot if responsibility. The poverty inducing reforms, lack of investment, carring on from Thatcher that there is no community, only individuals and then the anti immigration rhetoric, the lack of investment in all services, but asylum processing being top, then popular schemes, like Rwanda that they know won't work.

But as you said yourself, the idiots have no brain cells, and are told what to think by the likes of Farage. He is well aware what he was doing, and the type of propaganda that incites violence.

"That's a long-winded way to say that you can't find anything that's he's said that's racist"

Guessing you're not versed in the concept of propaganda, then? Or are you actually defending the odious piece of shit?

I studied propaganda in depth during my degree, specifically the rise of anti-Semitic propaganda from the late 1880s onwards that contributed to rise of fascism and culminating in the Holocaust. It is latent, it is insidious, it is powerful.

But you don't need a degree in History or Politics to see the danger and power of propaganda like that propagated by Farage et al, you just need not to be a total irredeemable, dimwit.

I'll give you an extreme example. Politicians and the media dehumanising those of a particular religion or ethnicity leading to genocide. The government may not have actually killed someone personally but have encouraged others to do so by stoking hate and division. Propaganda is a very powerful tool.

In my opinion, the riots have been a long time coming because of non stop anti immigrant rhetoric by the press, government and social media.

What absolute nonsense. Nigel Farage has never encouraged people to go out into the streets and riot.

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Blaming Farage solely can only get you so far. The government needs to take responsibility for failings in their own policies. The cost of living crisis, inadequate and unaffordable housing, NHS waiting times. I don’t doubt that there is right wing racism going on, but it is so much more complex than that - with issues of austerity/poverty definitely being tied into it.

Well you've got me looking into what he's said and I've just been on his Facebook and he's done a video where he has condemned the protests several times. I'm not sure what you've read that he's supposed to have said?

Nige the victim. I've heard it all now. 🙄

It’s not “trendy” to hate fascists who are trying to divide and destroy our country. Ffs.

Yes I blame Farage but I also blame every single media company who gave him an ounce of screen time, a platform, and popularity despite being nothing but a failed politician for the last few decades and treated him as a kooky character rather than a dangerous racist dressed up in wellies. They gave him credibility and look where it’s got us .

He is raising the concerns of many, whether you want to believe that or not.
I don't agree with everything he says or does but do believe as I said previously, that he has become the scapegoat for what some of the UK public do not want to address.

We are massively overcrowded - end of.
We should be blaming the politicians, Tony Blair for one - responsible in the past for stirring up so much trouble in the Middle East, causing so many fractions which resulted in so many people seeking refuge elsewhere. It’s now the same with Ukraine. Our abysmal failure to effectively control immigration on the part of the government is having a harmful impact on public safety and on fundamental British values such as freedom of expression and religion, as well as equality of opportunity for women and for those in the LGBTQ+ community.

He posted a video the day after the Southport murders suggesting to his many followers that the government was withholding the truth about the perpetrator from us. He also referenced the fake report that the murderer was 'known to MI6'.

He absolutely bears some responsibility for whipping up the sentiment that lead directly to these riots.

He's now blaming the likes of Andrew Tate for spreading those lies and poor innocent Nigel Farage not only falling for them, but amplifying them.

Fucksake. He's an MP, he absolutely should be held to higher standards than the likes of Katie Hopkins. He cannot be doing and saying things like that.