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To think Elon has lost his mind?

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JennyBeanR · 06/08/2024 14:21

I used to be a big supporter of his. I was absolutely obsessed with his work on SpaceX and neuralink. His Joe Rogan interviews are some of the most interesting conversations I've ever listened to. Since he bought twitter I feel like he's been radicalised. I honestly can't square the man he seemed to be while building this extraordinary career with who he had become.
I still agree with him on quite a few topics, but his outbursts on twitter this week to stoke the riots is just reprehensible. His comments seriously make me feel sick. I really hope he is held to account when the dust settles. Although I don't hold out much hope.

In the app so can't set up voting properly, but essentially
YABU - Elon Musk is of sound mind
YANBU- you're right, he's lost it

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Thebaguette · 06/08/2024 21:50

otnot · 06/08/2024 17:17

Wow there's a lot of misinformation on this post! Why do people comment when they clearly have little to no knowledge?

  1. He did not randomly call that lovely diver a paedophile. He took his engineers off their work for his company and had them build a mini-submarine that might've been useful in rescuing the boys. Some people thought he was doing it for publicity, others that he was just invested in the rescue as all the other humans on earth (maybe more so as he had 5 sons of a similar age) and thought he could possibly help. He flew it over to Thailand and the 'lovely' diver told him he could "stick it where the sun don't shine". Without even examining it. He then referred to said diver as "paedo guy", which he claimed was a generic insult rather than an accusation of actual paedophilia. The judge agreed and threw the case out, ruling that it was the diver who started it.
  2. He never worked for Apple?! I've never heard of him ever being accused of stealing anyone's code, I think Zuckerberg did - though he also never worked for Apple.
  3. He has been accused of stealing the Tesla idea but won that court case; there was already a name and a vague idea when he got on board, but no car. It was him (and most importantly his money) that took Tesla from being a glimmer in the imagination to being the the behemoth it is today, which has completely transformed the entire automobile industry. The judge, having reviewed all the evidence, agreed that he was indeed a founder - along with a couple of others who had joined after the initial incorporation.
  4. The animals tested on by Neurolink were already fatally ill. Does that make testing on them ok? Maybe not, but surely no worse than all the testing done on millions of both healthy and non-healthy animals all over the world. If you want to complain about animal testing, great - but why would you start with Neurolink?
  5. His father didn't own an emerald mine. He had shares in an emerald mine, which provided a bit of money before going bust. Whilst the family was seemingly comfortable, they were definitely not super-wealthy. The father has since been declared bankrupt.
  6. His father was also a member of an anti-apartheid party. Elon was certainly not raised as pro-apartheid.
  7. His first wife wrote an article about him in which the worst thing he apparently did was tell her he wouldn't employ her. Oh, and when their child died he found it too hard to talk about, but she wanted to and tried to make him so he apparently called her 'emotionally manipulative'. He also allegedly told her that he would be 'alpha' in the relationship on their wedding day - but she stayed married to him for many years and bore him six children so she doesn't seem to have been terribly bothered about it, bit odd for her even to mention it really...
  8. He won't ever be going bankrupt. Obviously. Unless the entire economic order collapses - in which case I would think him also being poor would be of little consolation.

Having said all that, I agree that he has little to no understanding of the UK, or probably anywhere outside America. I also think he should stop spouting off at every opportunity, I don't think he is helping the world (or his brands). I think he has fallen down a far-right rabbit hole since his child's transition, and I think there's nobody telling him to stop it.

I am however pro-Twitter as over the past few days there's been a lot on there which is unnervingly missing from the mainstream media. I definitely don't think that should be anyone's sole or main news source, but I do think it's important there is a place where people can report what is happening from the ground. I also think it needs to be closely monitored to make sure fake news is removed quickly.

His first wife said he used to put her down and was emotionally abusive and was arrogant and emotionally unavailable but did quite a bit of chasing at the early part of relationship. Basically he chased her until she said yes to dates and relationship, once they married, he started putting her down, one of those typical abuser who love bomb until a woman commits and then start damaging their self esteem.

hattie43 · 06/08/2024 21:54

I think he's raging about woke culture after his kid went trans .

NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/08/2024 22:01

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And equally, your PM for an undisclosed SaaS could be 'sends out the company newsletter for MailChimp'.

SallyWD · 06/08/2024 22:06

NowyouhaveDunnett · 06/08/2024 14:22

I always disliked him. He said some horrible things about the diver who helped rescue the Thai football team from the flooded cave.

Yes he showed his true colours with those remarks about the diver. I think he was seething with jealousy that rhe diver was getting all the praise and glory.
Can't stand him and his remarks about theorists here are appalling.

otnot · 06/08/2024 22:12

NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/08/2024 22:01

And equally, your PM for an undisclosed SaaS could be 'sends out the company newsletter for MailChimp'.

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True... weird thing to make up though, would've been better inventing that I was a submarine engineer! My job really gives me no more understanding of submarines than if I was just sending out the company newsletter - but I do know how to Google, plus I well remember both events in question. The Titan imploded at extreme depth due to the pressure causing the hull to fail. It had already completed many deep dives without incident, and it is speculated these contributed to the hull weakening. If they had gone down in the prototype, they would've been fine. So a bit of a weird comparison to make with Musk's! Especially as Musk's submarine wasn't going to be going to any depth, and would be brand new. Concerns about safety were also was not the reason cited for not using it, though I won't spoil the 'technologist's' Googling by saying what the reason given actually was...

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 22:14

Do you think people will still buy Tesla’s?

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 22:16

He’s destroying his brand

justasking111 · 06/08/2024 22:18

He's always given me the creeps for some reason.

otnot · 06/08/2024 22:23

Thebaguette · 06/08/2024 21:50

His first wife said he used to put her down and was emotionally abusive and was arrogant and emotionally unavailable but did quite a bit of chasing at the early part of relationship. Basically he chased her until she said yes to dates and relationship, once they married, he started putting her down, one of those typical abuser who love bomb until a woman commits and then start damaging their self esteem.

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But who knows what he would say if he were to write an article about her? Who of any us actually would come off well in article written about us by our exes?! Certainly his friends and family have said they absolutely hated her because of how she treated him, though I don't believe he's ever spoken out himself. They were together for many years before they got married, and together for many years after they married. At some point we have to allow that the woman was capable of making her own decisions, and she decided she wanted to be with him - and have six children with him. What she herself said about her behaviour after the child died revolted me so I suppose I do have more sympathy for him than I probably should... but imagine if it were the other way round and she had said she found it too hard to talk about the loss of their baby but he kept bringing it up and demanding that she discuss it, and telling her she was cold and 'emotionally unavailable' when she refused. I expect you'd consider him an emotionally abusive arsehole, and rightly so. I don't see why it would be any different the other way round.

noctilucentcloud · 06/08/2024 22:25

TiredCEO34 · 06/08/2024 21:27

No she wasn't , she posted just 1 stat referring to violence which most condemn. She didn't post the fact that less than half 49% said the riots were either somewhat unjustified or completely unjustified which is quite telling meaning around around half the population thought they were or were on the fence. In other words slightly less than half the population is against them - the violence part is clearly a stat she included to make it out as if it applied to everything. 60% also had sympathy with the protests so hardly a tiny number and hardly the miniscule percent on here that think they are all "fascists, nazis , islamophobes, daily fail readers, ku klux klan members , bigots, gammons, far right hooligans, ex colonial slave masters ". Did I miss any out?

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The stats say that 49% of the people said the protests were unjustified. However, in the same question 88% said the unrest at the protests was unjustified. The riots are the unrest at the protests, not the protests - so 88%.

I agree though, the protests are different in how they're viewed and that is quite telling, with the usual caveats of sample size, how they chose their participants etc. There have also been counter-protests and I am not sure if the survey differentiated or not. But I agree that there is a wider problem although that doesn't detract from the awfulness of the riots and how physically unsafe people are feeling right now.

Jinglejanglesten · 06/08/2024 22:29

He is, to use a technical term, a Gobshite. The definition being a person who spews out utter shite everytime they open their mouths, and who should be ignored completely.
I think the media are guilty of amplifying him by reporting his comments. He should be treated like every other attention-seeking mad arse that makes ridiculously controversial statements, by being ignored.

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/08/2024 22:31

TiredCEO34 · 06/08/2024 19:41

If you think 99% disagree with Musk as we see on here, you're living in cloud cuckoo land 😅

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If you think 99% of Mnetters disagree with Musk, you're not seeing what's right in front of you.🙈

But you've moved towards reality from no one to 99%. I hope you continue to move towards reality and away from "facts" you make up in your head.😊

hamstersarse · 06/08/2024 22:34

I’ve just caught up on all his tweets today

He is doing a FANTASTIC job of holding the government to account, which is exactly what the media should do

Hes asking the questions that our esteemed BBC reporters should be asking but instead they are in cahoots with them, parroting all the same lines about Far Right extremists with not even a slight curiosity about why people might be angry

KS has a battle on his hands here, and I’m here for it

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 22:36

Nah, he’s just driving traffic to X as he needs the clicks.

hamstersarse · 06/08/2024 22:39

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 22:36

Nah, he’s just driving traffic to X as he needs the clicks.

Yeah, sure

X has very quickly become the place to see news in real time.

The stats from the Trump assassination attempt are clear as day. More people trusted X.

it’s not surprising as when you looked at what the MSM were reporting, it was embarrassing,

I think much more pertinent is why all the MSM outlets consistently lie about Musk.

a clue is that X doesn’t allow them to control the narrative. The citizens do,

Abhannmor · 06/08/2024 22:54

SallyWD · 06/08/2024 22:06

Yes he showed his true colours with those remarks about the diver. I think he was seething with jealousy that rhe diver was getting all the praise and glory.
Can't stand him and his remarks about theorists here are appalling.

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When he smeared that brave man is when I realised he is a ruthless lying megalomaniac pos. He got away with it too even though it's open and shut. Murica ...free speech for me $$$. But not for thee.

dyzzie · 06/08/2024 23:03

Just clicked on the YouGov poll linked below and poll no longer found. Anyone got a saved copy?

Also why are MSM not showing the full breadth of rioting and actual police responses to all sides... Odd

MayonnaiseOnMyChips · 06/08/2024 23:04

Don't follow him or give him the time of day ,can someone please explain to me (like I'm a child) what he has done/said

cakeorwine · 06/08/2024 23:07

hamstersarse · 06/08/2024 22:39

Yeah, sure

X has very quickly become the place to see news in real time.

The stats from the Trump assassination attempt are clear as day. More people trusted X.

it’s not surprising as when you looked at what the MSM were reporting, it was embarrassing,

I think much more pertinent is why all the MSM outlets consistently lie about Musk.

a clue is that X doesn’t allow them to control the narrative. The citizens do,

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There was also a lot of misinformation on X about the Southport incident.

I don't trust X.
I don't trust many posts on here either.

I think he is getting involved in things that he doesn't know about.

Notonthestairs · 06/08/2024 23:18

dyzzie · 06/08/2024 23:03

Just clicked on the YouGov poll linked below and poll no longer found. Anyone got a saved copy?

Also why are MSM not showing the full breadth of rioting and actual police responses to all sides... Odd

This should work -

yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50257-the-public-reaction-to-the-2024-riots

But if it doesn't it's on the front page of the YouGov website.

Gorgonemilezola · 06/08/2024 23:35

InsensibleMe · 06/08/2024 15:28

There has never been free speech to shout ‘fire’ in a crowded theatre. And that’s what Musk is doing right now. Hardly North Korean to believe there should be some censorship over inflammatory comments and posts.

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Yup. What Musk is doing is incitement. Can you imagine what he's going to do in the US if the Democrats win the election?

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/08/2024 23:52

Notonthestairs · 06/08/2024 23:18

This should work -

yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50257-the-public-reaction-to-the-2024-riots

But if it doesn't it's on the front page of the YouGov website.

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Thanks for that.Thanks

biscuitandcake · 06/08/2024 23:53

Campcritters · 06/08/2024 22:16

He’s destroying his brand

I think that it's "inevitable" that Tesla's share price will fall...

TooTiredOfThisShit · 06/08/2024 23:57

He hasn't lost his mind, in so much as he doesn't have any less mind than he ever did.....

dropoutin · 07/08/2024 00:52

No, he's not lost his mind. He knows exactly what he's doing.