Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think Elon has lost his mind?

349 replies

JennyBeanR · 06/08/2024 14:21

I used to be a big supporter of his. I was absolutely obsessed with his work on SpaceX and neuralink. His Joe Rogan interviews are some of the most interesting conversations I've ever listened to. Since he bought twitter I feel like he's been radicalised. I honestly can't square the man he seemed to be while building this extraordinary career with who he had become.
I still agree with him on quite a few topics, but his outbursts on twitter this week to stoke the riots is just reprehensible. His comments seriously make me feel sick. I really hope he is held to account when the dust settles. Although I don't hold out much hope.

In the app so can't set up voting properly, but essentially
YABU - Elon Musk is of sound mind
YANBU- you're right, he's lost it

OP posts:
Thread gallery
15
Whenwillitgetwarm · 06/08/2024 18:45

otnot · 06/08/2024 18:41

At the point he created it they were desperate. They still had no idea how they were going to get to the boys; the diving rescue was seen as near-impossible and it was by no means certain they were going to attempt it. Many people were coming up with ideas, maybe his wouldn't have worked but he thought there was a chance he could help and so he tried - which is more than any of the rest of us did as we gawped at the telly with our fingers crossed. He does of course have some of the world's very best engineers in his service, the very fact that they could build a working submarine at all in two days is spectacular!

The diver, completely unprovoked, was extremely and unnecessarily rude to him and the court case decided Musk's retort was therefore perfectly legal. Especially as he did not call him a paedophile, he used the insult 'pedo guy'. I imagine he was extremely hurt to be attacked when he was genuinely trying to help, like anyone would be, and he lashed out.

Nice try Grimes, keep trying to protect your kids inheritance…

Anyways many more of us remember this whole thing rather differently. Musk was aggressive, distracting from a rescue operation and wanted to use the situation to boost his own ego and promote his tech.

He was disgusting to that guy and should have lost the case.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 06/08/2024 18:55

He’s always been pretty awful I think. But yes he’s got worse.

otnot · 06/08/2024 18:56

Whenwillitgetwarm · 06/08/2024 18:45

Nice try Grimes, keep trying to protect your kids inheritance…

Anyways many more of us remember this whole thing rather differently. Musk was aggressive, distracting from a rescue operation and wanted to use the situation to boost his own ego and promote his tech.

He was disgusting to that guy and should have lost the case.

You remember it differently because people like you keep spreading the lie on the internet and want to believe it cos you don't like Musk. Even though I say with certainty that you don't have the faintest idea about him or any of his companies. You know, it's really not hard to find the actual facts - Google is super easy to use. But there's probably not much point in you doing any research as no doubt you'll decide that everyone, including the judge and 12 jurors who found Musk innocent, are all wrong and you are right. And anyone who says differently is obviously Grimes - the ex-girlfriend who is suing him?!! Grow up, dear.

outdamnedspots · 06/08/2024 18:58

He is a revolting person. Openly supporting Trump, changing X's algorithms to favour Trump, not Harris.

And his comments on the riots! Inciting violence. He should be in prison.

SerendipityJane · 06/08/2024 19:06

His latest demonstration of a superior mind is to sue his customers.

TiredCEO34 · 06/08/2024 19:41

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/08/2024 17:52

I agree with Musk as do millions and millions of other Brits ..none will be on here though as it isn't really a forum, just a collection of people crying about how racist everything is. Reading the thread, I'm sure many think 99% hate Musk and think he is a naughty racist wearing a pointy white hat. The reality is entirely different.

No one will be on here though.... Bollocks.🙄 You're here and so is the person quoted who posted just after you @TiredCEO34 .

I'm getting sick of the "silent majority" lie. You're not silent. Your not the majority.

Edited

If you think 99% disagree with Musk as we see on here, you're living in cloud cuckoo land 😅

Notonthestairs · 06/08/2024 19:43

Regardless of what the rioters believe they are representing, their actions are not supported by the British public, with 85% of Britons opposing the unrest at recent protests and just 7% saying they support the violence.

yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50257-the-public-reaction-to-the-2024-riots

EasternStandard · 06/08/2024 19:44

TiredCEO34 · 06/08/2024 19:41

If you think 99% disagree with Musk as we see on here, you're living in cloud cuckoo land 😅

Many use the platform he owns and I’d say support is there too

TiredCEO34 · 06/08/2024 19:48

Notonthestairs · 06/08/2024 19:43

Regardless of what the rioters believe they are representing, their actions are not supported by the British public, with 85% of Britons opposing the unrest at recent protests and just 7% saying they support the violence.

yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50257-the-public-reaction-to-the-2024-riots

Disingenuous post, deliberately designed to misinformation for those that can't be bothered clicking on it. No one sane supports the " violence". Your link shows only 54% oppose the protests, and in the second question only 49% think the riots were unjustified.

That indicates a split in view showing many people whilst not condoning violence, understand the unrest over not just recent events but recent years. Epic fail from you here

Notonthestairs · 06/08/2024 19:52

More senseless violence & more people will turn away from them.
It's not political discourse, it's thuggery.

Tagyoureit · 06/08/2024 19:56

NowyouhaveDunnett · 06/08/2024 14:22

I always disliked him. He said some horrible things about the diver who helped rescue the Thai football team from the flooded cave.

Exactly this!!

Greally · 06/08/2024 19:57

JennyBeanR · 06/08/2024 14:21

I used to be a big supporter of his. I was absolutely obsessed with his work on SpaceX and neuralink. His Joe Rogan interviews are some of the most interesting conversations I've ever listened to. Since he bought twitter I feel like he's been radicalised. I honestly can't square the man he seemed to be while building this extraordinary career with who he had become.
I still agree with him on quite a few topics, but his outbursts on twitter this week to stoke the riots is just reprehensible. His comments seriously make me feel sick. I really hope he is held to account when the dust settles. Although I don't hold out much hope.

In the app so can't set up voting properly, but essentially
YABU - Elon Musk is of sound mind
YANBU- you're right, he's lost it

I am not ‘obsessed’ by Elon Musk but have read a fair bit.

I’m amused you think he was ‘radicalised’ by Twitter, rather than the reverse. I would engage in a debate about Twitter’s stance on freedom of speech/objectivity in reporting various world events and Musk’s views on that, but given hate speech has increased massively since he acquired it - what makes you think he isn’t the instigator?

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/08/2024 20:30

hamstersarse · 06/08/2024 17:55

Good post @otnot

Its like there’s a lot of misinformation about Musk out there….🤪

I wonder why outlets like the BBC would like to smear him? 😵‍💫 A mystery indeed.

Although the real mystery is why anyone believes a WORD the BBC says anymore. As a pp has pointed out, X shows you very very clearly all the things they miss out, or misrepresent.

Maybe if you'd watch real news, you'd be aware of all the discussions around immigration that have been going on. Especially the ones that included our politicians.🤷‍♀️

JennyBeanR · 06/08/2024 20:30

Greally · 06/08/2024 19:57

I am not ‘obsessed’ by Elon Musk but have read a fair bit.

I’m amused you think he was ‘radicalised’ by Twitter, rather than the reverse. I would engage in a debate about Twitter’s stance on freedom of speech/objectivity in reporting various world events and Musk’s views on that, but given hate speech has increased massively since he acquired it - what makes you think he isn’t the instigator?

I don't believe I said Twitter radicalised him. I said he seems to have become radicalised since. It's a chicken/egg scenario. None of us will know the truth here.

I just want to add that I really despise twitter. I deactivated some time ago after using it for years. I actually think it's become worse since he acquired it. I'm definitely in favour of free speech. X/Twitter however seems to amplify the voices of the worst extremes on all sides, and the nature of the app means people are rewarded for being snippy and short with people. It essentially destroys any chance for a nuanced discussion.
Also, I'm not buying the idea that community notes is somehow unbiased.

OP posts:
RayonSunrise · 06/08/2024 20:37

@otnot - I am a technologist. The tech that ended up saving the boys was tried and tested, and was in the hands of experts. Musk's prototype was months away from being ready to use.

Please take your ill-informed nonsense elsewhere. Musk's position on that sub was putting him in the same realm as that CEO whose submersible imploded on the ocean floor taking his customers with him. Imagine how that would have gone for those children.

JennyBeanR · 06/08/2024 20:39

Qwertys · 06/08/2024 14:26

YABU for ever thinking he was decent. What do you agree with him about?

He’s always been like this it’s just more visible now he’s even more prominent in the media

He helped push renewables to the forefront of tech, at a time and in a country where the very idea is very unpopular. Moreover, the tech in Neuralink could mean an end to physical disabilities. Then there's the whole Space X thing helping push space exploration further. I mean, I really don't understand how anyone wasn't impressed with him before he bought twitter.

I really don't want to defend him. I am seriously disgusted with his comments lately. The riots have been quite frightening and as an ethnic minority, it's made me feel unsafe for the first time since I moved to this country. I'm just in shock that he's stooped to the level of stoking the fires of riots. I do believe he's gone mad. Totally lost it.

OP posts:
noctilucentcloud · 06/08/2024 20:42

TiredCEO34 · 06/08/2024 19:48

Disingenuous post, deliberately designed to misinformation for those that can't be bothered clicking on it. No one sane supports the " violence". Your link shows only 54% oppose the protests, and in the second question only 49% think the riots were unjustified.

That indicates a split in view showing many people whilst not condoning violence, understand the unrest over not just recent events but recent years. Epic fail from you here

It does show that 54% oppose the protests, but 34% support them, the other 12% are don't knows.

When it comes to the riots, 85% oppose and 7% support.

For the question regarding if the unrest at the protests are justified, 88% say no and 8% yes. Reform voters are most likely to have said yes, followed by Conservative.

Notonthestairs was correct in their interpretation.

WildLemur · 06/08/2024 20:49

Musk is a total gobshite, and dangerous to boot.

IncessantNameChanger · 06/08/2024 20:57

On X I follow

Nasa
New Scientist
European space agency
Prof Brian Cox
Special needs parents

So why in five clicks am I shown endless videos of BAME people fighting? Mostly black Americans? Why is this shit being pushed at me and by whom? He is rotting people's minds and becoming a parody of an Evil super villain.

Facebook and X are a cess pit of lies. It's a septic tank 🤣 if I saw the New Scientist tweeting that bacteria multiple on FB or X I'd need to fact check it.

Sunhatweather · 06/08/2024 21:10

He’s an agent provocateur obsessed (and has done well for himself) with being disruptive.
He also owns a platform that does best during times of controversy.
Of course he’ll have an opinion.

TiredCEO34 · 06/08/2024 21:27

noctilucentcloud · 06/08/2024 20:42

It does show that 54% oppose the protests, but 34% support them, the other 12% are don't knows.

When it comes to the riots, 85% oppose and 7% support.

For the question regarding if the unrest at the protests are justified, 88% say no and 8% yes. Reform voters are most likely to have said yes, followed by Conservative.

Notonthestairs was correct in their interpretation.

No she wasn't , she posted just 1 stat referring to violence which most condemn. She didn't post the fact that less than half 49% said the riots were either somewhat unjustified or completely unjustified which is quite telling meaning around around half the population thought they were or were on the fence. In other words slightly less than half the population is against them - the violence part is clearly a stat she included to make it out as if it applied to everything. 60% also had sympathy with the protests so hardly a tiny number and hardly the miniscule percent on here that think they are all "fascists, nazis , islamophobes, daily fail readers, ku klux klan members , bigots, gammons, far right hooligans, ex colonial slave masters ". Did I miss any out?

otnot · 06/08/2024 21:30

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Edenmum2 · 06/08/2024 21:34

You're being unreasonable to enjoy his joe rogan interviews and not realise what a lunatic he's always been

BBCONEANDTWO · 06/08/2024 21:39

I think he's great.

midgetastic · 06/08/2024 21:43

Great for a laugh?

Or so bad he's amazing ?