To think we are stuck with hideous neighbour.

[Neighboursfromhell]

We love in a purpose built flat, one neighbour above and then a substantial shared garden. Upstairs property is owned by a very wealthy Dutch man, turns out he bought the property to put his grown daughter in.

His daughter has significant mental health issues, we have 2-3 nights a week where she howls like a labouring cow all night, or she repeatedly slams the bedroom door over and over and over again. She will scream duck you you ducking cunts at us and she has a partner of about 18 months with whom there are domestics at least 2-3 times a week. Violent domestics. Police are here at least once a month. She grabs what sounds like hammers and whacks the floor screaming at us she can't do what she wants you fucking c.

Police won't do anything because the violence is tit for tat and if they want to attack each other they can.

Council won't do anything due to the violence and therefore it is a police matter. The domestic violence is only one element of the god awful behaviour.

We can't afford the tens of thousands to lodge our own court action.

We can't sell as it's an expensive (inherited) flat and no one is going to spend that much on a crazy, dangerous neighbour.

The property isn't rented, it's owned outright. The owner is technically breaching the lease by not acting on her behaviour but again, we can't afford to legally pursue it.

Aibu to think there's fuck all we can do?

Aibu to ask how long reasonably her mental health can give her allowances? She can 100% control herself when she wants to.

I don’t understand why people think she should have to

She shouldn’t but this is real life & we often have to do things we shouldn’t for our own sanity.

Why should she sell!!! Then some other poor person will be stuck with this horrible neighbour. Maybe the neighbour should move instead, since she's the one with the problem!

I would prefer to sell an inherited flat at less than market value then pursue legal action. I would feel different if I had a large mortgage though.

Maybe the neighbour should move instead, since she's the one with the problem!

How do you make her?
How do you avoid “some other poor person will be stuck with this horrible neighbour” if she moves?

She doesn’t need to pursue expensive legal action. She needs legal advice as to the fathers’ responsibility for his daughter, who is effectively his tenant and causing a nuisance. He’s the landlord, and it’s his responsibility to make sure his tenant isn’t causing issues for others. OP can also report to social services as there are safeguarding issues for a vulnerable person here. And how is she expected to sell a flat with issues like these ? If she discloses to potential buyers they’ll run a mile. If she doesn’t, she’s leaving herself open to legal action when her buyers move in and are affected by the same ongoing issues.

A hate crime ? Don’t be daft. There will be evidence of these issues and OP can document them herself as proof. And she’ll be a damn sight more miserable when she’s being sued by the buyer of her flat for not disclosing the shit storm upstairs. Because that’s the only way she’ll be able to sell the flat.

She can declare issues, someone will buy it if it’s in an expensive area & priced right. As I said I wouidnt want the headache unless I had no choice. You would do it differently, fair enough.

Yes, exactly. She should be in hospital. She needs helps because she is vulnerable and distressed. Her situation as it stands is not right for her and intervention is needed to help her. It's gone unchecked for long enough.

I think a buyer would have to be thick as mince not to twig that the disclosed problems are pretty serious if they’re selling a swanky flat at a knock down price. Doubt there would be many takers.

You only need one though.

I know quite a few people who have sold property quickly despite issues but these were in expensive markets as I said.

I’ve worked in MH and the notion that someone will swoop in with a hospital admission is a fairytale. MH provision in the UK is a shambles. Which is probably why this poor girls’ father has effectively dumped her in the flat. If he’d had the support he needed with her, he wouldn’t have had to.

I have also worked in mental health and understand that sometimes for carers, they just don't know what to do. You end up between a rock and a hard place. I know it's not easy and it's unfortunate. However community support should be able to be put in place. There are a few ways this could go from here. The best case is that things get to the point there is a place found for her where she can get proper support and treatment.

Well this is why OP should complain get her moved elsewhere. This is totally unacceptable to be creating problems for the neighbours. If it's am expensive area, her dad can move her somewhere detached or at least sort out soundproofing

Exactly. There’s your answer

You need to report to the police. Tell them every time that you are worried she is going to kill you. They surely can’t ignore it if you report it every time. Keep a diary. They can make referrals to social services surely?

Why not contact and offer to sell to him then?

They'll have to declare the dispute as police have been involved

Astounding how many people think she should just cave to harassment.

I think you either call the police every time and report to noise control
and if you can speak to mr Dutchman make it clear you aren’t going to stop and it WILL become his problem

OR

you sell on the quiet. No signs or indication outside the house and limit viewings to times you know she is likely to not be around. Take the first half decent offer you get on the condition exchange and completion is expedited

You can sell … you just don’t want to.

Not if it wasn’t OP who called the police - that’s not clear from her post. But OP would have to declare anyway, regardless of any direct dispute. This is a long standing and ongoing issue which will likely affect any buyer as soon as they move in. They could then sue OP for not disclosing it during sale negotiations.

And when the buyer moves in and experiences the issue for themselves, and sues the OP for not disclosing a material fact affecting the property ? What happens then ?

there must be someone you can report to?
environment health
council
mental health services

the people criticising your tone are either crazy themselves or are just sanctimonious plonkers 😂😂

your neighbour is batshit crazy and you need to get away from this situation and move somewhere you feel safe and happier

Personally i’d cut my loses and prepare to sell. You’re fortunate you’ve inherited a high value house, hopefully, even if it’s sold below market value because of this, you will be able to get another place.

what’s money for of it’s not to give you options to change things?

One persons rights do not trump another. Lodge a noise complaint, keep a diary and also if she's being abusive to you, harassment. Each time there is obvious domestic violence call the police. If she doesn't have capacity to manage herself independently in the flat without her neighbours being adversely impacted then she needs help.