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AIBU to not want my DH to know where I am and what I'm doing at all times?

229 replies

Izzosaura · 05/08/2024 22:19

This is inspired by the recent thread about people who are on tracking apps with their partners. My DH has no interest in us being on a tracking app and nor do I so this isn't a practical question so much as a theoretical one.

During the tracking discussion, I found myself having really strong negative feelings about being tracked but found it difficult to justify these rationally. As a few people put it, why worry if you have nothing hide? So I went away and analysed why I was so hostile, and I realised that apart from my wider worries about tracking (the danger of it not being truly voluntary due to pressure to agree to it; the potential for coercive control; a dislike of a world where people don't have to make the conscious choice to commuicate but just expect others to know their movements and fulfil their needs)... there actually ARE things that I want to hide from DH.

These are the exapmples I can think of from the last few months:

  • I'm working to lose weight at the moment and have had considerable success, but a few weeks ago I had an appointment cancellation that unexpectedly gave me a spare half hour for lunch at work and gave in to a craving to go to a local chippy. I was embarrassed about breaking my diet and wouldn't have wanted my DH to know I'd been there. He would have been fine with it and wouldn't have seen it as his business to judge but he'd likely have made a joke about it and I wanted to avoid that.
  • Last week I was meant to be out on a work visit about an hour away but it got rescheduled so I ended up spending the morning working from home unexpectedly. I didn't tell DH as knew that he'd then have expected me to do some tidying round the house - something he always does when working from home. But I had deadlines to meet and didn't want to do anything other than sit on my laptop. I therefore didn't mention the change in my schedule to him.
  • About 3 months ago I was meant to be meeting up with a friend for a country walk and my DH agreed to look after our daughter whilst I did this. My friend met me but needed to leave earlier than we'd planned so we did a shortened version of the walk. Rather than rushing home, I enjoyed an hour to myself going round some nearby shops. I didn't tell my DH because although he'd have been cool with it, I felt guilty.

If my DH and I tracked one another, these omissions / white lies on my part would have been busted. I suppose I like to continue to be free to do this sort of thing once in a while. I'm also fine with the idea of him doing things he doesn't tell me about that are of a similar nature.

Some would perhaps say that this is the sort of dishonesty that breaks relationships and is a sign that our marriage is doomed... so am I being unreasonable to think that this sort of thing is fine or not?

YABU - These things shouldn't be hidden from your DH and you should be totally honest with him about where you are at all times.

YANBU - It's fine not to share these sorts of things with your DH; it's ok for married people to keep some things from one another.

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BCBird · 05/08/2024 22:21

I would never agree to.tracking nor would I suggest it.

saraclara · 05/08/2024 22:25

BCBird · 05/08/2024 22:21

I would never agree to.tracking nor would I suggest it.

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savethatkitty · 05/08/2024 22:27

I'm sorry, but couples who feel the need to "track" each other need a proverbial head wobble. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Ever heard of, idk, trust, privacy, autonomy?

Izzosaura · 05/08/2024 22:28

BCBird · 05/08/2024 22:21

I would never agree to.tracking nor would I suggest it.

I'm with you but I'm worried that I don't have a good enough justification for why! When I read back the things I'm hiding from my DH they sound pathetic but I really value the freedom!

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BirthdayRainbow · 05/08/2024 22:30

My now ex h and I had a stalking app. My choice as I got lost often and it was useful for knowing when to start dishing up dinner. Sadly I didn't look at it when I should have and tbh even if I had he would have had a plausible explanation.

LoveSandbanks · 05/08/2024 22:30

Me and dh have tracking apps on our phone but in no way do we track to this extent.

although I might take the piss if he’s driven a bit too fast on a journey 🙄

we use it to make sure we’ve got somewhere safe etc. it got used when I got lost on a country walk and dh came to rescue me but mostly it’s so we can track the kids (they are well aware of this)

I get that it can be used for ill but for us it’s completely benign.

Bastide · 05/08/2024 22:31

It would never occur to me to track DH or agree to be tracked. But it’s concerning that your examples of times you’d not want to be tracked are all times where you seem to have appointed your DH as a conscience or authority figure. Own an extra hour of free time. Own your decision not to do housework when working from home, own your decision to eat chips. You’re your own boss.

OuchIsLife · 05/08/2024 22:32

But why can't you feel secure in your decisions? Can't you tell him that it's not up to him what you do with a spar half an hour rather than blanket rule of tidy or back home ASAP.

I would never be tracked or want to tracked mya partner but I'd also like to think that I can trust my future partner with their time and not feel the need to micro manage it and visa versa.

DramaAlpaca · 05/08/2024 22:32

I'd never want to track DH and he wouldn't want to track me. I could see some very difficult conversations if one of us suggested this!

It shows a lack of trust, and trusting each other completely is the absolute bedrock of our very long relationship. I don't need to know what he's doing at any particular time and definitely don't want him to know what I'm doing either.

Neither of us would be up to anything dodgy, we just don't necessarily want to tell each other our every move.

Zanatdy · 05/08/2024 22:33

I agree completely with you and I wouldn’t want to be tracked, and I don’t track my kids.

PickAChew · 05/08/2024 22:33

savethatkitty · 05/08/2024 22:27

I'm sorry, but couples who feel the need to "track" each other need a proverbial head wobble. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Ever heard of, idk, trust, privacy, autonomy?

Exactly. Sometimes DH shares his location with me on his way home when he's been on a not typical day out and I've asked him to let me know when he expects to be back, just for the sake of logistics, being able to prep autistic Ds2 for a change of routine or whatever but doing it for normal day to day stuff is excessive.

LovelyBitOfSquirrrel · 05/08/2024 22:33

We use the find friends app as my husband drives a lot for work so it gives me peace of mind he is safe when I’ve not heard from him all day as he’s driving. We live together so surely you just know when eachother is going out or doing something anyway. I don’t see how it’s an invasion of privacy when I don’t lie about what I’m doing

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 05/08/2024 22:35

If my DH and I tracked one another, these omissions / white lies on my part would have been busted.

DH and I don't have tracking for each other on our phones - but do people who do really look at it that often? Why would anyone be looking up where you were in the middle of a work day?
I'm not saying you should have the tracking btw! I was just thinking that if DH and I had it, we'd never see anything the other didn't want us to because it wouldn't occur to us to randomly check where the other was.

I assumed people only used it for seeing what time someone might be home etc (plus obviously other people might use it for controlling reasons).

BeaRF75 · 05/08/2024 22:36

Unless learning difficulties etc, tracking another adult is wrong. I do not need to know where my husband is at all times, and vice versa. If he goes on a solo holiday, I often only have a very vague idea of where he is in the country, which is fine because I know he'll be back at the end of the week. We all need our independence and privacy - they are fundamental human rights. I don't know how people cope with the feelings of suffocation when their partner tracks them, or they have to "check in" every hour/day. Just live your lives, please.

Izzosaura · 05/08/2024 22:36

Bastide · 05/08/2024 22:31

It would never occur to me to track DH or agree to be tracked. But it’s concerning that your examples of times you’d not want to be tracked are all times where you seem to have appointed your DH as a conscience or authority figure. Own an extra hour of free time. Own your decision not to do housework when working from home, own your decision to eat chips. You’re your own boss.

I think you make a good point about owning my decisions. I reckon it's less a matter of appointing DH as an conscience than of generally feeling bad about these things and not wanting anyone to know about them. But they say shame is a destructive emotion that feeds on darkness...

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MonsteraMama · 05/08/2024 22:37

I just can't think of a single reason I'd need to track my husband or he'd need to track me. Not one. I can't think of a single way it'd make our lives easier or better. That's a good enough reason not to do it as far as I'm concerned.

ExtraOnions · 05/08/2024 22:39

We have tracking apps .. don’t use them that much. Helps like today, I was at the hospital, he was picking me up, there is no parking, so I tracked him so I could be outside ready.

Mumofteenandtween · 05/08/2024 22:39

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 05/08/2024 22:35

If my DH and I tracked one another, these omissions / white lies on my part would have been busted.

DH and I don't have tracking for each other on our phones - but do people who do really look at it that often? Why would anyone be looking up where you were in the middle of a work day?
I'm not saying you should have the tracking btw! I was just thinking that if DH and I had it, we'd never see anything the other didn't want us to because it wouldn't occur to us to randomly check where the other was.

I assumed people only used it for seeing what time someone might be home etc (plus obviously other people might use it for controlling reasons).

This. We don’t (or at least I don’t and I can’t imagine Dh does) look at it all the time. Only when (say) Dh is 5.5 hours into a 6 hour car journey so I know when he is due home. I don’t have the time, interest or energy to check where he is at random times.

Izzosaura · 05/08/2024 22:40

OuchIsLife · 05/08/2024 22:32

But why can't you feel secure in your decisions? Can't you tell him that it's not up to him what you do with a spar half an hour rather than blanket rule of tidy or back home ASAP.

I would never be tracked or want to tracked mya partner but I'd also like to think that I can trust my future partner with their time and not feel the need to micro manage it and visa versa.

Edited

I take your point but I would argue that feeling insecure in our decisions is a natural normal part of life - most of us do things we regret or feel torn between desires / impulses / moral codes at times and it's understandable not to want to share everything we've done with someone else.

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Jk987 · 05/08/2024 22:40

It's up there with having your partner's phone passcode. Not necessary. Trust each other not own each other.

SpiritAdder · 05/08/2024 22:40

I voted YABU because you are lying to your DH.
My DH and I have the ‘find my” tracking activated and we use it as needed. We don’t track each other at all times or for all reasons, it is useful to check though if always on in situations like last night when Luton airport moved the pick up zone to a pop up location in the mid stay car park. So much easier to find each other,

Same with checking if they are x minutes away when planning dinners.
Or when driving cross country to visit friends, go to a festival, - you can check they got there ok. no need for them to call or text to check in as you can activate an auto-text via the maps app.

If your partner is going to use it as a tool for domestic abuse, then you wouldn’t allow it. In a loving relationship with trust, it’s not going to be used like that. It’s going to be used for your mutual safety and benefit.

Much of your issues in hiding things are you have been taught to feel guilt over being a human being. You say your partner would be ok and not mind, so why lie? Why not just go? And skip the guilt or need to make up a fake story?

We always end up being trapped in our lies - so why start? Many threads talk about how it’s not what their partner did or did not do, but the lying that causes a break up. You should feel free to be unapologetically you.

Edingril · 05/08/2024 22:41

I won't be tracked nor have I any interest in tracking another human

We are not cats and don't need a microchip

I don't care what reasons for or against I have zero interest so don't do it

DappledThings · 05/08/2024 22:41

We have tracking available. It's useful for seeing when someone's on the way home. I have no problem with it.

But in your specific examples OP I wouldn't be bothered if DH knew about them or not. I wouldn't feel remotely guilty about taking some time to myself to relax or go shopping rather than clean the house and DH wouldn't ever make me feel guilty for that so it wouldn't occur to me to want to hide that activity.

Runn8ngOnEmpty · 05/08/2024 22:41

MonsteraMama · 05/08/2024 22:37

I just can't think of a single reason I'd need to track my husband or he'd need to track me. Not one. I can't think of a single way it'd make our lives easier or better. That's a good enough reason not to do it as far as I'm concerned.

Oh but you'd know when to put the kettle on or dish up dinner 🙄 (things that take precisely 3 minutes once they're home).

crumblingschools · 05/08/2024 22:41

We have tracking apps but I rarely look at it unless DH is on a longer journey than normal for work so I can judge when he will be home.

I doubt I would have picked up any of the things OP listed she had done as I don’t look at it that regularly

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