Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

You're insulting the working class. These people are scum.

The anger is coming from racism and entitlement. Not much to understand there.

Dealing with male entitlement is very difficult. Hence why domestic abuse remains such a problem. What we do know is that validating it is a very bad response as it feeds into the entitled view.

I agree with you. Some people are so righteous it’s actually concerning.

He didn’t destroy any property 🤷‍♀️

@Hummingbird75

I'm listening. I'm waiting for you to explain "the solution". You obviously have plenty of nuanced expertise in the political sphere which I think should be shared. In the interests of the fairness you're so in favour of.

We do not dehumanize anyone - everyone in this country is entitled to a view, everyone is entitled to protest and everyone should be represented.

It is not two tier Britain, or at least it shouldn't be.

Didn’t they just have a chance to go to the ballot box like the rest of the country?
Why do you think they have less avenues to communicate their feelings vs me, you or anyone else on this thread?

Do you know how utterly ridiculous you sound by trying to paint these thugs as a spokesperson of the working classes? Most of the wc utterly condemn these riots. They are busy getting by in their lives, trying to pay their bills, providing for their family and enjoying their life. To suggest the majority of wc people hold these sort of views is extremely patronising.

Ever got off your high horse to consider why those men turned violent? Or are you too busy looking down on the peasants?

So do we truly imagine that ANY of these people rioting have another avenue to communicate their feelings and experiences? And if so where and to whom?
They have the same ways to do so as those of us not rioting. Write to their MPs, get involved with their local communities. Campaign for change,

Do you think Starmer is interested in serving the working classes and understanding where this anger is coming from?
Yes, he has not shown himself to be only about the middle and upper classes like the previous government. But does that mean he has to blindly agree that something is causing an issue when in actual fact it's something else? No.

All of those things? The Nazi salutes? Hauling taxi drivers out of their cars and beating them up? Really?

I see you are ignoring Starmers tweet from that time. Here it is again:

So did the British government pay 33 million of tax payers money to this organisation last year, or not?

To suggest the majority of wc people hold these sort of views is extremely patronising.

It’s worse than that. It’s insulting and derogatory.

You tell me with some proof. I’m a little tired of being your secretary.

"Ever got off your high horse to consider why those men turned violent? Or are you too busy looking down on the peasants?"

More excuses.
You made me set fire to a library/hotels/shops.
What other violence do you excuse?

The only one talking about peasants is you.

@orchiddottyback "And now the head of the police is involved in violence and thuggery. "

Is he? Destroyed a library, did he?

Being entitled to an opinion is not the same as then using that opinion to try and excuse violent behavior.

Protest and Rioting, two different things.

I’ll take that as a resounding yes then.

If it was some other cause that you don’t agree with, and people were violently rioting, attacking people, burning things and looting would it justify it if they said “nothing else has worked to advance our cause?” In any event I’m not sure what else they have apparently tried that this is now the “last resort”. It’s also not abundantly clear what their “cause” is- if it’s “save our kids” this is definitely not the way to do that, if it’s “solve the economic and social issues facing our town” then this isn’t going to achieve that either, if it’s “make Britain white again” then it’s a racist movement and no I don’t think we need to listen to racists. The fact we don’t even really know what the rioters want means of course this is not going to work. Sadly there will be many locals who truly care about those towns and the issues facing them and who are doing good work in those areas, I imagine like citizens advice, and this is just hampering all of that.

Like I say defies belief that you will justify this. If this was done for a cause I believe in, say this was a group of animal rights activists, I would not be able to justify violence, theft and vandalism just because nothing else has worked. I would condemn their actions and argue that there is always another non violent way.

Why would you be worried if you're Jewish (Keir Starmer's wife is Jewish) - or a woman? I'm a woman and I am delighted. It's great that we've finally got a government that's going to work towards better pay for women, better support with childcare, get rid of foodbanks, improve the NHS and generally improve outcomes for all women and children in the UK.

Exactly. Don't tar me with their brush, None of the working class people i know agree with them.

You can take it as whatever you like. I’ll believe what you say if and when you back it up. You won’t though because either there is no proof or you’re too idle to look for it.

Not to mention the rape courts! Which was a big reason I and many other women i know voted for them.

Thank you.

We have tens of thousands of families in bedsits currently. We have tens of thousands waiting for social housing. We have over stretched hospitals, schools, GPs and some are at breaking point in some areas. Do you think it would be a responsible move by the current government to put a coherent immigration policy or even god forbid a temporary pause whilst we ensure the people currently here have a decent standard of living? To get a grip on the situation? Right now, for some people, particular the less wealthy in society it feels like no one has control of a sinking ship. For those that are most vulnerable in society this is a terrifying position to be in.

It boils down to this, we will continue to see riots, from all quarters, if we do not address the issues in this country.

Starmer has to get a grip and fast, and he won't achieve that by creating even more division!

Isn’t it funny how these thug appeasers (who I suspect are paid shills of countries wishing to destabilise the UK) want to paint these criminals as WC?

These criminals are jobless drunks and thugs. Some may work cash in hand at best so pay no tax. They certainly only take from society and don’t contribute. It is disgraceful to claim these thugs get up every day to work. If they did, did they book annual leave in order to riot and loot?