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Beyond disgusting

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takeittakeit · 04/08/2024 19:11

We are luckily enough to be in Paris watching some of the Olympics - it has been fantastic - bit hot and steamy, poor air con but waiters actually trying to understand my poor french rather than the usual dismissive look!

Staying in an average 4star hotel, air con average but it has been vv hot and humid. Old converted office type building, narrow corridors and 4 small rooms on our floor.

We came back last night to a stench - only way to describe it. Then realised what it was, the American family in the room opposite had left their childs diaper folded up on the floor outside their room - not bagged. Their door is opposite ours about 1.5 metres away.

Went into our room, aircon had not been on all day and it honked. Opened windows sprayed deodorant no luck.

At 2330 - had had enough, knocked gently on their door, baby crying so not asleep. Mum opens it with a second diaper in her hand, bent down and put it on the floor by the other one and then said can I help you?

Now fairly obvious at this point one of her DCs has the trots - but who in their right mind thinks it is ok, to wrap up your childs diaper and leave it on the corridor for other guests to smell.

I politely asked her to put them in the bin
REsponse : I can't they smell so bad.
ME: Why do you think it is OK to share your childs stinking shits with other guests by leaving them in the corridor - my room stinks
REsponse: this is normal in the USA
ME: Well normal in Europe is to bag them and put them in the garbage, can I suggest you do that and take them outside to a bin on the street.
REsponse: No way, it is too late and started to close the door
ME: You really are disgusting - and promptly kicked the diapers into their room before she shut the door
REsponse : you can't do that
Me: watch me, either you bin them or I will bang on your door every 5 minutes, wake up your kids until you do

Two other doors opened to see what was going on - both American families who defended their friends actions.

So I offered to bang on all their doors until someone put them in a bin.
Stand off - I raised my hand to bang on the door and one of the men picked them up and legged it down the stairs.

I have not smelt anything quite that bad for a long long time.

They called me all sorts of names but seriously this can not be normal American behaviour?

OP posts:
PizzaFecker · 04/08/2024 22:43

Gettingannoyednow · 04/08/2024 19:20

Agree it's disgusting. I do feel for the woman trying to care for an ill baby in a foreign hotel room with people banging repeatedly on the door as well though. Could no one have called down to Reception and asked staff to sort it?

You are a vile individual if you think hotel staff should deal with your child's shitty nappies

cauliflowercheeseplease · 04/08/2024 22:44

Toddlerteaplease · 04/08/2024 20:05

That is disgusting, but you don't sound like a very nice person

Sorry but I'm with the OP here.

It's completely unhygienic, unsanitary and selfish! Nobody else wants to smell the neighbours kids diarrhoea or pick up the dirty nappies!! Be respectful of your surroundings and other people. If this is how they treat hotels I dread to think what their home is like. Absolutely disgusting.

Werweisswohin · 04/08/2024 22:45

Itisjustmyopinion · 04/08/2024 22:31

Exactly. There are a few threads going in just now where people think each OP is being aggressive and it’s nothing of the sort, it’s just calling out CF behaviour

Considering a lot of MN go NC with people at the drop of a hat, don’t open their door to anyone and think that neighbours shouldn’t even say hello to them these kind of attitudes don’t surprise me for a moment

Why did you decide to tag a silly dig on to the end of your post exactly?
🫣🫣🫣

NalafromtheLionKing · 04/08/2024 22:46

That is disgusting, I’m in the US right now and have seen heavily used sanitary products dumped on the floors of restrooms at the zoo and at a top 5 star hotel 🤮

lazzapazza · 04/08/2024 22:51

Excellent work op. I bloody well salute that.

mustwashmycurtains · 04/08/2024 22:53

Thank you OP. Wish more people bothered to call others out on poor manners.

Qanat53 · 04/08/2024 22:57

It’s normal behavior for absolute dirtbags, name any country, they have filthy people like her.
Americans invented the “diaper genie” and those bags !!! It’s not what they do in America!!!!
That woman is lazy beatch.

BettyBardMacDonald · 04/08/2024 22:58

Gettingannoyednow · 04/08/2024 19:20

Agree it's disgusting. I do feel for the woman trying to care for an ill baby in a foreign hotel room with people banging repeatedly on the door as well though. Could no one have called down to Reception and asked staff to sort it?

She deserves it.

I have been to America numerous times, in everything from 5* hotels to dumpy cabins, and never ever seen that. What a disgusting pig. Probably a trumper.

Ilikeadrink14 · 04/08/2024 23:00

Cadela · 04/08/2024 19:33

Why would staff have to deal with someone else’s shit????

They are the guest’s children, it’s up to them to sort it. Do you ask a waitress to wipe your bum when you’ve been to the loo in a restaurant?

Your last comment is totally ridiculous! What has it got to do with what the poster wrote?

BettyBardMacDonald · 04/08/2024 23:00

gardenmusic · 04/08/2024 19:38

Reminds me of the quick meal I had in a french supermarket cafe - the woman at the next table pulled out a potty and her toddler pooped in it. About a foot away from me. None of the french families seemed to see anything strange in this. They must have been able to smell it.

Jesus Christ!

I would have vomited.

Ilikeadrink14 · 04/08/2024 23:05

Cadela · 04/08/2024 19:33

Why would staff have to deal with someone else’s shit????

They are the guest’s children, it’s up to them to sort it. Do you ask a waitress to wipe your bum when you’ve been to the loo in a restaurant?

Your last sentence is stupid! It bears no relation to what happened here.

Karmaisac4t · 04/08/2024 23:06

You are my hero. I’d slow clap you if I was there

Trifecta · 04/08/2024 23:06

Lilysgoneshopping · 04/08/2024 20:04

I just messaged my UK based American friend and she was horrified and no way does any American she knows has ever done this

Same. If that happened at an American hotel the other rooms would be complaining as you have.

Maverickess · 04/08/2024 23:11

Cadela · 04/08/2024 19:33

Why would staff have to deal with someone else’s shit????

They are the guest’s children, it’s up to them to sort it. Do you ask a waitress to wipe your bum when you’ve been to the loo in a restaurant?

Honestly, with the way some people treat hospitality staff it's only a matter of time.

People seem under the impression they're serfs there to do anything and everything they want and refusal because it's really not part of the service is 'shit customer service' pun intended and generally any requests to treat a shared space with a bit of respect is resoundingly ignored anyway.

That comment just shows that mentality really.

Well done OP on confronting the situation and not backing down or deciding to blame the hotel and it's staff for someone else's shitty (quite literally) behaviour!

Eldrick47s · 04/08/2024 23:16

blueshoes · 04/08/2024 20:42

I have generally found Americans to be ultra-polite. You had the bad luck to bump into 3 lots of stinkers at once.

OP, I like your feistiness. Too many people Brits are afraid of confrontation and often for good reason. But you put those mofos back in their place.

You are my personal hero.

Canadians I'd describe as polite, Brits too ("sorry" after barging into someone as happened me when I was in London).

What OP was describing was entitlement, and there is an historic entitlement culture there (see the 'Karen' moniker ("I demand to speak to the manager", or phoning the police on black people), which is only the latest in centuries long series of labels given to entitled white women from there who use their privilege at the expense of others).

That English lad on his motorbike who was killed by the American woman who drove the wrong way. An unfortunate accident yes, but she was very aloof/arrogant in the way she handled it. She skedaddled without saying a word to the grieving mother. The British mother had to go over to America and demand she face justice (her American (male) lawyer was fabulous). Yes she had immunity via her husband being a diplomat, but the lack of consideration for the mother was disgusting. I just couldn't envisage the average British woman behaving like that had the roles been reversed.

I don't think their culture helps them (certainly historically as white woman have been put on a pedestal there for centuries). Look at some of their female politicians; Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Boebert, Krist Noem (if you dont know these women google them, the latter one boasts about killing her dog). Of course they are all on the right, where most of the inconsiderate folk sit. You would not want to face any of them in a hotel that's for sure.

Ilikeadrink14 · 04/08/2024 23:17

BluebirdBoogie · 04/08/2024 20:32

They're nappies not diapers.

Here, they are nappies. In the US, they are diapers. How rude and arrogant of you to criticise how a foreigner speaks!

ProfessionalPirate · 04/08/2024 23:17

Cadela · 04/08/2024 19:33

Why would staff have to deal with someone else’s shit????

They are the guest’s children, it’s up to them to sort it. Do you ask a waitress to wipe your bum when you’ve been to the loo in a restaurant?

We’re talking about removing a contained nappy to a bin, not actually changing the child’s nappy?

FWIW, I’ve stayed in countless hotels with my children (generally pretty high end ones in case it makes any difference) and I always ask at the beginning of the stay where I can dispose of soiled nappies, and they almost always tell me to call down to reception and ask for them to be collected. Perhaps their wheely bins are inaccessible to guests, who knows.

I wouldn’t do it if I hadn’t been given that instruction though. And I would certainly ensure it was well bagged up.

Ilikeadrink14 · 04/08/2024 23:20

Eldrick47s. Was your lecture really necessary? Seemed to be a lot of effort for a rather pointless outcome!

Ilikeadrink14 · 04/08/2024 23:21

ProfessionalPirate · 04/08/2024 23:17

We’re talking about removing a contained nappy to a bin, not actually changing the child’s nappy?

FWIW, I’ve stayed in countless hotels with my children (generally pretty high end ones in case it makes any difference) and I always ask at the beginning of the stay where I can dispose of soiled nappies, and they almost always tell me to call down to reception and ask for them to be collected. Perhaps their wheely bins are inaccessible to guests, who knows.

I wouldn’t do it if I hadn’t been given that instruction though. And I would certainly ensure it was well bagged up.

A sensible person at last!

Mumtobabyhavoc · 04/08/2024 23:22

Agree with posters that there are disgusting people everywhere. It's why I carry Lysol wipes and anti-bac Wet Ones wipes when I'm out. I can't tell you how often I've had to clean pee off a public toilet in order to use it. And, I'll admit I've lost it and called women out when I've gone into a stall after them that's got pee on the seat. 🤷‍♀️

But, regarding the thread.... it absolutely is part of the hotel service to provide assistance to guests. So, call the bloody housekeeping and ask for garbage bags and help cleaning up if a mess has been made and you can't manage it. Accidents happen.
I'm wondering if the mum was beside herself trying to manage it all? We don't know her situation, after all.

Hodge00079 · 04/08/2024 23:32

Can't believe that people think it is ok to put unbagged nappy in a communal area. I can think of plenty places to put it and this would be last place. It wouldn't have been so bad if it was bagged. I doubt they would put it on a carpet at home like this.

This is not a new thing. Reception say they did it days ago. If the child is poorly the first thing most reasonable people would do is get a good supply of bags. Scented bags on the balcony. Problem solved with causing issue for other guests.

If it wasn't for sick child I'd say it is a shame hotel can't kick the family out.

Momtotwokids · 04/08/2024 23:38

I am 66 and have lived in the US my entire life. I know of no one who would do that. Must have been raised in a barn

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 04/08/2024 23:46

I was in Amsterdam once and saw an English tourist smoke so much weed he simultaneously pissed himself and vomited, then passed out in a pool of his own bodily fluids.

Seriously this can not be normal English behaviour?

Is it a cultural thing?

Can all posters please message their English friends and ask?

BettyBardMacDonald · 04/08/2024 23:48

Hodge00079 · 04/08/2024 23:32

Can't believe that people think it is ok to put unbagged nappy in a communal area. I can think of plenty places to put it and this would be last place. It wouldn't have been so bad if it was bagged. I doubt they would put it on a carpet at home like this.

This is not a new thing. Reception say they did it days ago. If the child is poorly the first thing most reasonable people would do is get a good supply of bags. Scented bags on the balcony. Problem solved with causing issue for other guests.

If it wasn't for sick child I'd say it is a shame hotel can't kick the family out.

Having a sick child shouldn't exempt them from consequences. Let them take it to A&E or deal with it in the car en route home.

Eldrick47s · 04/08/2024 23:49

Ilikeadrink14 · 04/08/2024 23:20

Eldrick47s. Was your lecture really necessary? Seemed to be a lot of effort for a rather pointless outcome!

Wasn't a lecture, just giving some historical context to entitlement.

I probably should have added I think it's a minority who behave like that (and most of them on the right). Kristi Noem for one, monstrous woman.