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Beyond disgusting

343 replies

takeittakeit · 04/08/2024 19:11

We are luckily enough to be in Paris watching some of the Olympics - it has been fantastic - bit hot and steamy, poor air con but waiters actually trying to understand my poor french rather than the usual dismissive look!

Staying in an average 4star hotel, air con average but it has been vv hot and humid. Old converted office type building, narrow corridors and 4 small rooms on our floor.

We came back last night to a stench - only way to describe it. Then realised what it was, the American family in the room opposite had left their childs diaper folded up on the floor outside their room - not bagged. Their door is opposite ours about 1.5 metres away.

Went into our room, aircon had not been on all day and it honked. Opened windows sprayed deodorant no luck.

At 2330 - had had enough, knocked gently on their door, baby crying so not asleep. Mum opens it with a second diaper in her hand, bent down and put it on the floor by the other one and then said can I help you?

Now fairly obvious at this point one of her DCs has the trots - but who in their right mind thinks it is ok, to wrap up your childs diaper and leave it on the corridor for other guests to smell.

I politely asked her to put them in the bin
REsponse : I can't they smell so bad.
ME: Why do you think it is OK to share your childs stinking shits with other guests by leaving them in the corridor - my room stinks
REsponse: this is normal in the USA
ME: Well normal in Europe is to bag them and put them in the garbage, can I suggest you do that and take them outside to a bin on the street.
REsponse: No way, it is too late and started to close the door
ME: You really are disgusting - and promptly kicked the diapers into their room before she shut the door
REsponse : you can't do that
Me: watch me, either you bin them or I will bang on your door every 5 minutes, wake up your kids until you do

Two other doors opened to see what was going on - both American families who defended their friends actions.

So I offered to bang on all their doors until someone put them in a bin.
Stand off - I raised my hand to bang on the door and one of the men picked them up and legged it down the stairs.

I have not smelt anything quite that bad for a long long time.

They called me all sorts of names but seriously this can not be normal American behaviour?

OP posts:
PeachLemonGummy · 04/08/2024 21:51

Sounds repulsive! The norm in Europe is to double or even triple bag diapers (you can cheap disposable diaper baggies everywhere) or use ziploc bags to prevent smell. Then place it outside on a balcony, window ledge or someplace that will not disturb anyone with the smell. Never indoors unless you have a diaper disposal bin supplied. Housekeeping know if there's a baby in the room and will remove those baggies along with regular trash.

Vikina · 04/08/2024 21:55

Didn't happen.

ANGIEPANGY77 · 04/08/2024 21:56

In the words of the late Whitney Houston, oh hell to the nah, this is not normal American behavior. Additonally, on behalf of the 340 million other Americans, please accept our apologies for your smelly, raucous ordeal. In my family we always separately bag shitty diapers and take them to the outdoor garbage can. Never, ever are they left in the house. Never in a million years would think to leave them outside of the door of public accomodation. Jesus, help me!

Ger1atricMillennial · 04/08/2024 21:56

The poster is either from North America or its a reverse.

I have been worked in a restaurant where someone changed their kid's nappy on the table in the middle of service. They didn't have any other adults with them to look after the other kids. She was still asked to leave by the manager.

Normallynumb · 04/08/2024 21:58

I applaud you!
Simply vile.. Nappies and her behaviour

ForGreyKoala · 04/08/2024 22:10

Gettingannoyednow · 04/08/2024 19:20

Agree it's disgusting. I do feel for the woman trying to care for an ill baby in a foreign hotel room with people banging repeatedly on the door as well though. Could no one have called down to Reception and asked staff to sort it?

Why should "the staff" have to deal with it? How hard is it to put something in a bin? - which is the responsibilty of the parents. People wouldn't be banging repeatedly on the door if they had dealt with it in a normal manner.

Well done OP!

extrasushiplease · 04/08/2024 22:11

This is NOT normal in America. They were taking the piss and would have some other stupid excuse doing the same thing in the US.

Nanny0gg · 04/08/2024 22:16

ttcat37 · 04/08/2024 20:09

I’m sure your shit doesn’t stink!
I’d be more concerned about your thuggish behaviour than a dirty nappy. Open a window and ring down to reception if you feel so aggrieved, like a normal person, rather than shouting and threatening people.

Why is it ok to accept revolting behaviour?

AthenaBasil · 04/08/2024 22:18

While I agree staff shouldn’t have to deal with sick babies. They do have to deal with guests who are misbehaving, so don’t get the push back about contacting them regarding this issue.

earlymorningcurlewcall · 04/08/2024 22:18

Tell them to buy diaper bags in the morning. Then tell them to scrape the diarrhoea out of the diaper and into the toilet, then roll up the nappy and put it in their bin.

Absolutely disgusting, and a total disregard to other guests.

ForGreyKoala · 04/08/2024 22:19

Hoppinggreen · 04/08/2024 21:13

How about Americans on holiday in other countries?
I have been horrified by their behaviour in various Carribean countries and also Mexico. The staff in our Mexican hotel last year told me that they would rather deal with Brits who treated them like humans than the Americans who were awful to them but tipped better - I speak excellent Spanish and got to know quite a few staff members pretty well.
I have also had cultural training on Americans due to my job and we were told that their behaviour to people they view as serving staff etc can be very questionable due to the fact that they think tipping makes everything ok and I have seen it regularly. They treat me well as I am an "equal" but anyone who serves them in any capacity is not always treated with the same respect.

The only people I know of who have been actively removed from my country for outrageous behaviour were Brits. People from any country can be boorish louts, there is no need to single one race out (and yes I know I have just done that, but that was an example to you, normally I wouldn't).

ForGreyKoala · 04/08/2024 22:22

DoIWantTo · 04/08/2024 20:28

Why was your first reaction to get aggressive instead of getting hotel staff involved? They were rank to leave the nappies there but there was a better way to handle this.

If the hotel staff were involved they wouldn't have been able to act as OP did, and anything they said would bear no result. I have to laugh at what is considered "aggressive" behaviour on MN 😅

Hoppinggreen · 04/08/2024 22:23

ForGreyKoala · 04/08/2024 22:19

The only people I know of who have been actively removed from my country for outrageous behaviour were Brits. People from any country can be boorish louts, there is no need to single one race out (and yes I know I have just done that, but that was an example to you, normally I wouldn't).

Brits can also be awful on holiday (and elsewhere) I agree but the thread concerned Americans

mondaytosunday · 04/08/2024 22:25

That is NOT normal in the US. What is normal is to put them in diaper bags and dispose of properly.

Zanatdy · 04/08/2024 22:27

Given there was more than one person, absolutes no excuse for that, it’s literally disgusting. Good on you for being so assertive OP! I can’t imagine that’s normal behaviour in any country to leave shitty nappies in the corridor stinking the place out. Get some carrier bags or carry nappy sacks like most parents

SeulementUneFois · 04/08/2024 22:30

Well done OP!
People need to get more assertive with such disgusting creatures.

pinkstripeycat · 04/08/2024 22:31

ttcat37 · 04/08/2024 20:09

I’m sure your shit doesn’t stink!
I’d be more concerned about your thuggish behaviour than a dirty nappy. Open a window and ring down to reception if you feel so aggrieved, like a normal person, rather than shouting and threatening people.

Blimey! You’ve blown this out of proportion.

At no point did OP say she was thuggish, shouting and threatening. I think what OP did was reasonable based on what the nappy people did.

Fraaahnces · 04/08/2024 22:31

I am so very proud of you for taking a stand like this! Imagine leaving this for poor hotel staff to deal with! Vile!

Itisjustmyopinion · 04/08/2024 22:31

ForGreyKoala · 04/08/2024 22:22

If the hotel staff were involved they wouldn't have been able to act as OP did, and anything they said would bear no result. I have to laugh at what is considered "aggressive" behaviour on MN 😅

Exactly. There are a few threads going in just now where people think each OP is being aggressive and it’s nothing of the sort, it’s just calling out CF behaviour

Considering a lot of MN go NC with people at the drop of a hat, don’t open their door to anyone and think that neighbours shouldn’t even say hello to them these kind of attitudes don’t surprise me for a moment

Growlybear83 · 04/08/2024 22:35

Good for you, OP. I think you handled the situation absolutely perfectly, and kudos to you for kicking the dirty nappies back into their room.

NoisyDenimShaker · 04/08/2024 22:35

DreamTheMoors · 04/08/2024 21:26

I’m surprised low class American trash like that could scrape up the $$$$$ to travel to Paris.
Maybe they’re white trash with money, like Roseanne Barr described herself as being.

Low-class "American" trash? You can just say "low-class trash." No need to be xenophobic. Their trashiness is about who they are as individuals, and has nothing to do with nationality.

Greentreesandbushes · 04/08/2024 22:36

Do Americans not use nappy bags?

Crayfishforyou · 04/08/2024 22:39

That is truly disgusting. Why hadn’t they brought some airtight bags? That’s what we did.
I can’t believe the entitlement of this family, they didn't want the smell of shit in their room, so they gave it to everyone else

YOYOK · 04/08/2024 22:41

I am giggling a bit at the posters who think OP could have offered to help or been kinder. Seriously?! A poopy stinky nappy left inside a hotel corridor! That is beyond lazy and gross; there were enough adults to find a proper bin.

WoolySnail · 04/08/2024 22:42

10/10, Standing ovation for you OP!This is one of those situations we'd all wish we'd done what you did, would have hand rung over doing it but ultimately regretted not doing! #myhero