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Raving?!? au pair problems

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Needaholidaay · 03/08/2024 10:11

Hi

Name change. My kids are older -teenage - and we have an au pair who is well treated and paid and the kids do love her even though they think they’re too old to have an au pair. I want help still because 2-3 times a week I’m back from work at 7:30pm and for those 2-3 days she is around and able to see what’s going on and make dinner and make sure they’re not coming back to an empty house. She also brings a fun energy to the house and big sister vibe to my kids, one of whom is very attached and who has had some massive challenges. I’m a single parent.

Au pair is brilliant with kids, good cook and very intuitive. She does however drink way too much on a weekend - lost phones/smashed glasses/general oblivion and I have suggested she takes better care of herself but also she’s 20 and so I write it off as being like at college and being a bit daft. She did ask to bring a new boyfriend around a few months ago when the kids were at their dad’s (rare occurrence) but I said I didn’t want men I don’t know in the house or any visitors without meeting them and for then it was a no but if it became a longer term relationship and I had met him we could revisit that and we’d have to set boundaries on that. He hasn’t been mentioned since. She is always talking about men she’s chatting up at the weekends so no idea if he’s on the scene or not.

Me and kids are away and au pair has stayed at home for the week (for which she is being paid normal wage and dog sitting wage on top). I have a ring doorbell. I had some alerts at 3am so I looked back. Basically at 3am she got a deliveroo and the dog escaped through the front door and ran away. A shirtless man ran out after it and caught my dog and brought it back (thank god!). When I went back and looked at the ring footage there is no record of him coming into the house but there is of her and the dog (and her looking quite pissed). It’s weird but I’m thinking she must be going in and turning off the WiFi before letting the man in. Obviously when the dog escaped they didn’t have time to do that.

There is also a record of him coming to the door and her handing him something that could be a packet of drugs but maybe now I’m over thinking and it’s a bag of tea. I’d guess it’s the former and she might be a bit of a stoner in hindsight. I think this was recorded as it triggered the motion sensor but she probably didn’t realise it was because he didn’t ring the bell. (she could be a bit of a stoner or just being 20 - basically most days she doesn’t surface till midday).

She also left the dog for 6 hours one day which is longer than usual albeit he’s a good dog and would be ok probably for that long as a one off. I had said to her that if she needed to leave him for the day she should message my friend who will dog sit cover for us.

We are away for another 6 days. My best friend is away, my two usual dog sitting friends are unwell, my ex husband is angry because honestly he’s an arse, my family are miles away so I don’t really have anyone to pop around. I am worried she’s going to go on the lash again today with the dog in tow across London. I am worried about randoms in my home. I hate being lied to and I don’t know if my theory on her turning off the WiFi is right. But we are in another country so short of cutting the holiday short (which I really don’t want to do as we need it) I am at a loss as to what to call and say or message her with as I’m not there if she reacts badly.

My best friend says just ignore the ring doorbell and what the eyes don’t see the heart don’t grieve and wait to talk to her but I’m now worried for dog and for her and for jewellery etc in my house or someone leaving a door open. What should I do until I return please? If this indecision sounds pathetic then I understand as it feels pathetic, It’s hard being on holiday as a single parent and I just want to keep the peace and have a nice time but this has made me feel sick with worry this morning.

Thanks for getting this far.

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EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 03/08/2024 10:15

I'd wait untill you get back to deal with it.

Bankholidayhelp · 03/08/2024 10:15

Loads of red flags. Get rid. Not sure what she's adding to your life. Sounds like more hassle than it's worth

DreadPirateRobots · 03/08/2024 10:16

I mean, you know you need to end this, right? Have you done this properly and have a contract? She's paid at least minimum wage, right?

Call her and tell her that you're unhappy that she has violated the boundaries that you agreed, that she isn't taking care of the house and the dog to an acceptable standard, and that you will need to have a serious discussion when you return.

L66 · 03/08/2024 10:17

Your kids are too old for an au pair and you need to sack her she’s got way too comfortable in your home and lacks respect and boundaries towards you as her employer. Lines have definitely been blurred, and I wouldn’t have her back in the house, I wouldn’t have had her back from the moment she asked for her boyfriend to stay tbh. And the fact you have evidence of a shirtless guy on your doorbell cam as well so she clearly hasn’t listened.

pasturesgreen · 03/08/2024 10:20

Get rid first thing when you're back.

For now, go with your best friend's suggestion. Not much you can do from abroad.

Honestly, if you have have teens they can start making dinner themselves, you really don't need an unreliable 20 yo who comes back, shags God knows who and neglects the dog.

Boxina · 03/08/2024 10:21

DreadPirateRobots · 03/08/2024 10:16

I mean, you know you need to end this, right? Have you done this properly and have a contract? She's paid at least minimum wage, right?

Call her and tell her that you're unhappy that she has violated the boundaries that you agreed, that she isn't taking care of the house and the dog to an acceptable standard, and that you will need to have a serious discussion when you return.

I would do this, as a phone call, because then she will know that you know and she will hopefully change her behaviour. But she might just get more sneaky!

Three when you get home just end it. She sounds a terrible influence for your children and isn't respecting your home. Get a local person to help you those evenings when you need it, and a dog sitter when you go away.

SquatWeightaMinute · 03/08/2024 10:21

I would do nothing untill you get back and then I would have a serious think about wether you need an Au Pair and wether this particular one is a good influence on your teens.

cansu · 03/08/2024 10:28

I would just text that you have seen some videos from the doorbell that are worrying. Remind her that you would prefer her not to have overnight guests. When you get home you need to seriously rethink the situation. You don't trust her and need to end the arrangement. I would simply say you don't need her now the kids are older and help her to find either a new situation or return home.

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OneTC · 03/08/2024 10:30

You're away. Forget about it until you get back.

Then deal with it.

Sounds like you've got slightly the wrong measure of her, but I wouldn't assume you've got totally the wrong measure, she's unlikely to be doing anything malicious and it's just taking the piss a bit.

You can definitely fire her, but if I was you, now, I'd be pushing it to the back of my mind, enjoying the holiday and dealing with fallout on the return

SouperWoman · 03/08/2024 10:35

@Needaholidaay this is a mess. You are paying an irresponsible, untrustworthy adult to supervise and influence your young teens. She is not the right person to be in charge when you are not around and, however much your DD likes her, she needs to go.

in your situation, I wouldn’t make it a big confrontation. I would simply tell my kids and her that I have decided they are too old for an au pair - because they are! Give her notice as soon as you get back.

as a more practical alternative, you could get a cleaner/housekeeper to come in every day after school to clean up/cook supper. That would mean there is a responsible adult around when you are late back from work with the added bonus of making your life easier, not harder.

i wonder whether some sort of misplaced guilt means you feel the need to bring ‘fun vibes’ into your home. Teens need home to be a safe boundaried space. You are fun enough for them x

Surprisedmystified · 03/08/2024 10:36

I really don't understand why you continued to employ her anyway once you found out about her character. Surely not a responsible person to have around impressionable teenagers? Given you know how she behaves in her free time I'm amazed you trusted her to look after your home and your poor dog.

As other pp have said : phone her and talk to her. And finish her employment with you when you get home.

Needaholidaay · 03/08/2024 10:37

Kids are 15 and 12. I am not worried about talking to her or (I’m now concluding) telling her to move on when I’m back just for now she is in my home with my dog and I’m in another country. We have a contract and she gets well over minimum wage from me and also I helped get her a daytime job through a friend to build up a CV and she gets London living wage there too. I am not sure whether to call her because if she is a liar I don’t want to cause any drama that I am too far away to control. Also I was so looking forward to this week away that I am not feeling as if I’m thinking as clear as I should be and also I know my tone right now will be pissed off as I am pretty pissed off. But I do think maybe I should ask her what’s going on, on the phone or in a message. Aaargh.

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seethingmess · 03/08/2024 10:37

I can totally see how an au pair makes things easier even if your children are teenagers. As a single parent it must be good to have the back up of another adult when you work long hours.

Although I'm not sure this particular girl really counts as another 'adult'....

If she's really a stoner, I'm not sure if I'd bother with the one last chance talk.

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 03/08/2024 10:39

You’re paying for the privilege of a drug-taking, wayward, irresponsible, sneaky, lying twenty-something ‘daughter’.

Tell her to fuck off, seriously.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 03/08/2024 10:42

I would do nothing until you got back.
Treat her like an expensive dog sitter for now. Don’t tell her you know about her overnight guests until you get back so that she can’t take it out on the dog.
When you get back you should end the contract. Unless your children have some sort of special needs, treat them like their age. My teens were never sad about an empty house - they see an empty house as a treat.

If you really want to hire someone then hire someone like a cleaner to come round so that you’re not coming home to chaos. A live out person means no overnight guest issue and if they do drugs then they can do them after their job at yours.

SpaceRaiders · 03/08/2024 10:44

I would do nothing until you get back, then tell her you no longer need her. Last thing you want is for her to do a flit leaving your poor dog alone.

SouperWoman · 03/08/2024 10:47

@Needaholidaay and in answer to your holiday dilemma. Call her. Tell her what you’ve seen. Tell her you are concerned. Let her talk/explain. Don’t accuse her of taking drugs or messing with the WiFi because you don’t know for sure. Just remind her that her job is to care for the dog and the house.

And then try to enjoy your holiday. There is nothing more you can do.

but as per my previous post - she needs to go.

Compash · 03/08/2024 10:50

Or you could call her and say there's been a work/family emergency and you're trying to get earlier flights back. But then, oh dear, still trying to get three seats together, it's taking a while, and you'll call her and say when you're on the way...

Then phone her once a day but put the phone down without speaking, so she thinks you're calling to say you're on the way but she can't be sure...

Repeat for six days until you can get home, put your suitcases down, and kick her sorry arse.

Compash · 03/08/2024 10:52

Or you could call and ask if she's okay, because one of the neighbours has called to say there's a sketchy-looking man hanging around, and is she safe, does she want to call the police or is she happy for the neighbour to keep looking out for her?

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GonnaBeYoniThisChristmas · 03/08/2024 10:53

Don’t phone and confront her. It will upset and stress you (probably more than it will her) and you should enjoy your holiday.

Your dog and your house will likely be 100% fine and it’s still safer to have someone in your home when you’re away than an empty house.

Get rid of her when you’re back.

I have younger teens and an au pair - so I do hear you - but I manage her influence very carefully. A couple of times she has suggested eg taking my teens to a film or an event when she’s looking after them which just isn’t appropriate. She wants to go herself and thinks they can just hang out with her. And then I have to remind her we’re not her friends / flatmates - she has paid responsibilities and needs to carry them out the way I want her too. We have absolute ban on drink/drugs/sleepovers in our house and if she’s planning on a big night she stays out at a friends house.

We will be ending her time with us after this summer because IMO it becomes too difficult and blurred as my teens get older and closer to her age and I am having to restrict her behaviour more than she wants.

Nanny0gg · 03/08/2024 10:55

Can you ring her about the dog incident and say that a worried neighbour had seen it happen and contacted you?

Might wake her up...

But she is an employee (of a kind) and the drunkenness in your home wasn't acceptable imo

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