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Raving?!? au pair problems

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Needaholidaay · 03/08/2024 10:11

Hi

Name change. My kids are older -teenage - and we have an au pair who is well treated and paid and the kids do love her even though they think they’re too old to have an au pair. I want help still because 2-3 times a week I’m back from work at 7:30pm and for those 2-3 days she is around and able to see what’s going on and make dinner and make sure they’re not coming back to an empty house. She also brings a fun energy to the house and big sister vibe to my kids, one of whom is very attached and who has had some massive challenges. I’m a single parent.

Au pair is brilliant with kids, good cook and very intuitive. She does however drink way too much on a weekend - lost phones/smashed glasses/general oblivion and I have suggested she takes better care of herself but also she’s 20 and so I write it off as being like at college and being a bit daft. She did ask to bring a new boyfriend around a few months ago when the kids were at their dad’s (rare occurrence) but I said I didn’t want men I don’t know in the house or any visitors without meeting them and for then it was a no but if it became a longer term relationship and I had met him we could revisit that and we’d have to set boundaries on that. He hasn’t been mentioned since. She is always talking about men she’s chatting up at the weekends so no idea if he’s on the scene or not.

Me and kids are away and au pair has stayed at home for the week (for which she is being paid normal wage and dog sitting wage on top). I have a ring doorbell. I had some alerts at 3am so I looked back. Basically at 3am she got a deliveroo and the dog escaped through the front door and ran away. A shirtless man ran out after it and caught my dog and brought it back (thank god!). When I went back and looked at the ring footage there is no record of him coming into the house but there is of her and the dog (and her looking quite pissed). It’s weird but I’m thinking she must be going in and turning off the WiFi before letting the man in. Obviously when the dog escaped they didn’t have time to do that.

There is also a record of him coming to the door and her handing him something that could be a packet of drugs but maybe now I’m over thinking and it’s a bag of tea. I’d guess it’s the former and she might be a bit of a stoner in hindsight. I think this was recorded as it triggered the motion sensor but she probably didn’t realise it was because he didn’t ring the bell. (she could be a bit of a stoner or just being 20 - basically most days she doesn’t surface till midday).

She also left the dog for 6 hours one day which is longer than usual albeit he’s a good dog and would be ok probably for that long as a one off. I had said to her that if she needed to leave him for the day she should message my friend who will dog sit cover for us.

We are away for another 6 days. My best friend is away, my two usual dog sitting friends are unwell, my ex husband is angry because honestly he’s an arse, my family are miles away so I don’t really have anyone to pop around. I am worried she’s going to go on the lash again today with the dog in tow across London. I am worried about randoms in my home. I hate being lied to and I don’t know if my theory on her turning off the WiFi is right. But we are in another country so short of cutting the holiday short (which I really don’t want to do as we need it) I am at a loss as to what to call and say or message her with as I’m not there if she reacts badly.

My best friend says just ignore the ring doorbell and what the eyes don’t see the heart don’t grieve and wait to talk to her but I’m now worried for dog and for her and for jewellery etc in my house or someone leaving a door open. What should I do until I return please? If this indecision sounds pathetic then I understand as it feels pathetic, It’s hard being on holiday as a single parent and I just want to keep the peace and have a nice time but this has made me feel sick with worry this morning.

Thanks for getting this far.

OP posts:
babyproblems · 03/08/2024 11:35

I think the lying is a major issue. She has broken your trust… I’d be calling home often and keeping a close eye as much as you can whilst away, and then when I get back I’d be having a frank conversation and either asking if she can rebuild the trust or if she wants to move on..

3CustardCreams · 03/08/2024 11:38

OP I would not be accepting this. You have been extremely fair to this au pair regarding boyfriend policy - more than fair given your willingness to potentially meet him in future and reasses- yet despite this she brings him round when you’ve explicitly made it known you are not comfortable with that. Which by the way would also be my opinion. I also liked to have a good time in my 20s but falling around the place drunk etc I did not do on a regular occasion. I would think seriously about this- you would be well warranted in sacking her.

Cornflakelover · 03/08/2024 11:42

If she is turning off wifi you would get a notification on your phone if you have the app/ main account holder

Oldfatandfrumpy · 03/08/2024 11:43

Personally as long as home and dog are ok when you get home, I'd be fairly relaxed about it.

But she is an employee (of a kind) and the drunkenness in your home wasn't acceptable imo

I find this attitude bizarre, she's not a servant and she has a right to have some sort of life. I'm guessing the OP isn't paying sufficient to account for her to be 'working' 24/7

Lifestooshort71 · 03/08/2024 11:43

I'd be very wary of letting her know in advance that the shit's hit the fan. Who knows what she/they may do/help themselves to and then scarper!! I'd be tempted to text her..... the neighbour saw movement out the front in the night but you can't see anything on the ring doorbell so presume all ok but will get the connections checked when you return in case it's faulty. Ask how she is and then ask about the dog. When you get home fire her and tell her why - no notice. Try and enjoy the rest of your holiday!

historyofbritishdesign · 03/08/2024 11:47

If there is absolutely no way someone can come and collect your dog (no way that family can do it even with a journey?) I would let her know one of the neighbours thought they saw the dog out late at night and ask if everything okay? That way she may take better care.

As a dog owner my priority would be the dog so don't give her a hint of you being annoyed, just concerned. The last thing you want is her flouncing out and abandoning the dog.

Then do nothing else until you get home, when you sack her. I would even pay her notice period but ask her to leave with immediate effect. Then, as others have said, get dog sitters (we use Rover and other pet boarding facilities) and a housekeeper for 2 days of the week. Your au pair sounds like an additional sibling in the house, not a trusted adult.

twodowntwotogo · 03/08/2024 11:49

sleekcat · 03/08/2024 11:26

You don't need an au pair when you have a 15 year old in the house. Tell her you don't need her anymore and get a proper dog sitter next time you go away. I would also call her and tell her you saw the footage where the dog escaped and that's you're worried about it. Anything else - having someone over when you're away - is probably to be expected given her age and that the children aren't there to see him.

But it sounds like she is a bit of a bad influence if she is drunk around your family at the weekends. If you want someone to cook you could ask your 15 year old to start dinner. Mine could do this by that age. Whether they would or not is another matter but you could always use the saved money to pay them instead!

Whether or not the OP needs an au pair is up to her.

PrincessScarlett · 03/08/2024 11:50

You don't need an au pair for a 15 and 12 year old. Of course your children love her as she's the family entertainment and setting a really bad example to your impressionable teenagers if she is drinking and taking drugs all the time.

Your au pair must think she has really landed on her feet. She doesn't have to really look after the children at all so she's being paid well to cook dinner occasionally and some light housework. No wonder she's going out getting drunk and partying all the time.

OP, what you need is a cleaner or occasional mother's help. Not a live in au pair.

There's not much you can do now. Enjoy your holiday, stop checking your ring door bell but when you get back make sit down and explain to your au pair that you don't really need her anymore and that you are giving her plenty of notice to find somewhere else to live and find another job.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 03/08/2024 11:52

DO NOT PUT YOUR DOG'S SAFETY AT RISK

keep quiet for now, find a dog sitter who has immediate availability and will pick dog up, if you must

but be very aware that things could get worse if she realises you know what is going on in the house

RockyRogue1001 · 03/08/2024 11:52

How long have you known her/has she been in your family's life @Needaholidaay?

Silvers11 · 03/08/2024 11:52

@Needaholidaay Please DO NOT contact her while you are away. She ( or the boyfriend if that's what it is) could easily damage the house and contents before you come back, if you let her know that you know right now, and especially if you end up sacking her over the phone because you are angry.

I know it's worrying, but I would wait until you get home, try to enjoy your holiday in the meantime - and fire her when you get home. Kids are old enough to be making something to eat for themselves - especially the 15 year old

PorridgeEater · 03/08/2024 11:56

You could call her to ask how things are going, is dog ok etc and that may give you a chance to gauge the situation. If she is "very intuitive" she may pick up that you are concerned and it could be a gentle reminder to behave responsibly. I wouldn't give her more information than that as it is difficult to deal with things on holiday and you don't want to cut that short unless absolutely necessary.

Animatic · 03/08/2024 11:58

That sounds like a brilliant "big sister influence ".

Mumoftwo1316 · 03/08/2024 12:00

You really don't need an au pair at this age. At 15 you could encourage your older one to make a simple dinner for the family once a week. The 12yo could help with chores too like doing laundry. Between them they could cover a lot of what your au pair helps with. You can give them extra pocket money from the au pair wages you've saved.

They definitely don't need babysitting. You're babying your teens while at the same time introducing a terrible influence on them. Who knows what kind of conversation this promiscuous stoner makes with them...!

BumBumCream · 03/08/2024 12:00

Oldfatandfrumpy · 03/08/2024 11:43

Personally as long as home and dog are ok when you get home, I'd be fairly relaxed about it.

But she is an employee (of a kind) and the drunkenness in your home wasn't acceptable imo

I find this attitude bizarre, she's not a servant and she has a right to have some sort of life. I'm guessing the OP isn't paying sufficient to account for her to be 'working' 24/7

I agree with you, and actually just scrolled back to check if I’ve missed anything from the OP - only concern in her regular behaviour is partying at weekends (in her own time & away from the kids - unclear whether the kids are aware of it).

Pennyandolive · 03/08/2024 12:02

Compash · 03/08/2024 10:50

Or you could call her and say there's been a work/family emergency and you're trying to get earlier flights back. But then, oh dear, still trying to get three seats together, it's taking a while, and you'll call her and say when you're on the way...

Then phone her once a day but put the phone down without speaking, so she thinks you're calling to say you're on the way but she can't be sure...

Repeat for six days until you can get home, put your suitcases down, and kick her sorry arse.

Wow!

Mumoftwo1316 · 03/08/2024 12:02

only concern in her regular behaviour is partying at weekends (in her own time & away from the kids - unclear whether the kids are aware of it).

The kids are 12 and 15. I'm sure they're not hopelessly daft. They're aware of it. They probably think it's cool.

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Ilovelurchers · 03/08/2024 12:03

If she was smoking weed in your house you would be able to smell it. Also on her clothes of she was smoking it out of the house then returning to work. So I honestly don't think you need to worry about that.

She is an employee and presumably has a contract - does it include disciplinary issues/dismissal? Are you allowed to terminate her contract at any time for any reason, or do you need to give her a warning first, etc.

Employees have rights, as well as employers. Employees usually have rights even if they fuck up/make a mistake, depending on the severity of that mistake of course. But she hasn't actively harmed your children, for example....

It depends what her contract says, I suppose. But I assume you can't just sack and evict her without a notice period. She has certainly done the wrong thing in inviting this man into your home against your wishes, but that doesn't mean she isn't still a human being, currently dependant on you for housing and income.

You do need to protect your home and family, yes, but also treat her humanely and with compassion, I would argue.

Have you spoken to your teens about what has happened? If so what is their view? They may well know more than you do about any recreational drug use etc.....

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 03/08/2024 12:05

Some crazy responses here.

You wait til you get home, you end the arrangement by mutual consent.

No drama

GoldenLegend · 03/08/2024 12:05

Is it an option to return from holiday a day early so you can catch her with the boyfriend in your house?

Mumoftwo1316 · 03/08/2024 12:07

She is an employee and presumably has a contract - does it include disciplinary issues/dismissal? Are you allowed to terminate her contract at any time for any reason, or do you need to give her a warning first, etc.

If she's been employed for under two years then she can have her employment terminated very simply.

She's basically redundant with the ages of the kids being so old. It needn't be a disciplinary thing. Op can just say thanks but we don't need you any more.

NOTANUM · 03/08/2024 12:10

While you’re away I’d text to ask if there’s been any activity as a neighbour flagged a man going in and out of the house. Then she can either open up or flatly deny it. If the former you can remind her of the rule. If she goes for denial, she won’t be crazy enough to have him around again while you’re away.
Then I’d absolutely let her go when you get home. The dishonesty isn’t great and the drugs worse.
Damage limitation while you’re away and then act. Enjoy your holiday.

ThisOldThang · 03/08/2024 12:10

Don't mention anything until you return. If the phone call went badly, you could return to a trashed home.

VividQuoter · 03/08/2024 12:11

If you need her, don't say anything now but when you come back, be tough, call the police to check for hidden drugs in the house, making clear this is because of what you saw on the phone and if she wants the job no more things like that, ever.