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Raving?!? au pair problems

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Needaholidaay · 03/08/2024 10:11

Hi

Name change. My kids are older -teenage - and we have an au pair who is well treated and paid and the kids do love her even though they think they’re too old to have an au pair. I want help still because 2-3 times a week I’m back from work at 7:30pm and for those 2-3 days she is around and able to see what’s going on and make dinner and make sure they’re not coming back to an empty house. She also brings a fun energy to the house and big sister vibe to my kids, one of whom is very attached and who has had some massive challenges. I’m a single parent.

Au pair is brilliant with kids, good cook and very intuitive. She does however drink way too much on a weekend - lost phones/smashed glasses/general oblivion and I have suggested she takes better care of herself but also she’s 20 and so I write it off as being like at college and being a bit daft. She did ask to bring a new boyfriend around a few months ago when the kids were at their dad’s (rare occurrence) but I said I didn’t want men I don’t know in the house or any visitors without meeting them and for then it was a no but if it became a longer term relationship and I had met him we could revisit that and we’d have to set boundaries on that. He hasn’t been mentioned since. She is always talking about men she’s chatting up at the weekends so no idea if he’s on the scene or not.

Me and kids are away and au pair has stayed at home for the week (for which she is being paid normal wage and dog sitting wage on top). I have a ring doorbell. I had some alerts at 3am so I looked back. Basically at 3am she got a deliveroo and the dog escaped through the front door and ran away. A shirtless man ran out after it and caught my dog and brought it back (thank god!). When I went back and looked at the ring footage there is no record of him coming into the house but there is of her and the dog (and her looking quite pissed). It’s weird but I’m thinking she must be going in and turning off the WiFi before letting the man in. Obviously when the dog escaped they didn’t have time to do that.

There is also a record of him coming to the door and her handing him something that could be a packet of drugs but maybe now I’m over thinking and it’s a bag of tea. I’d guess it’s the former and she might be a bit of a stoner in hindsight. I think this was recorded as it triggered the motion sensor but she probably didn’t realise it was because he didn’t ring the bell. (she could be a bit of a stoner or just being 20 - basically most days she doesn’t surface till midday).

She also left the dog for 6 hours one day which is longer than usual albeit he’s a good dog and would be ok probably for that long as a one off. I had said to her that if she needed to leave him for the day she should message my friend who will dog sit cover for us.

We are away for another 6 days. My best friend is away, my two usual dog sitting friends are unwell, my ex husband is angry because honestly he’s an arse, my family are miles away so I don’t really have anyone to pop around. I am worried she’s going to go on the lash again today with the dog in tow across London. I am worried about randoms in my home. I hate being lied to and I don’t know if my theory on her turning off the WiFi is right. But we are in another country so short of cutting the holiday short (which I really don’t want to do as we need it) I am at a loss as to what to call and say or message her with as I’m not there if she reacts badly.

My best friend says just ignore the ring doorbell and what the eyes don’t see the heart don’t grieve and wait to talk to her but I’m now worried for dog and for her and for jewellery etc in my house or someone leaving a door open. What should I do until I return please? If this indecision sounds pathetic then I understand as it feels pathetic, It’s hard being on holiday as a single parent and I just want to keep the peace and have a nice time but this has made me feel sick with worry this morning.

Thanks for getting this far.

OP posts:
zingally · 03/08/2024 10:58

You know you don't really need an au-pair for teenagers. They are more than able to mind themselves for a couple of hours.

You've got yourself basically another teenager who you seem to worry about more than your actual teenagers!

And honestly, if she's only 20, how long has she even been with you?! I wouldn't have been massively comfortable trusting my tweens to an 18-19 year old long-term.

Hummingbird75 · 03/08/2024 10:59

I would be going home and sacking her.
I would not be able to sleep leaving my dogs in that situation (or my home!)

Saltedbutter · 03/08/2024 11:00

You need to call her.

Also, a 15 year old and 12 year old should be more than equipped to survive until 7:30pm 2/3 nights a week. I should imagine the 15 year old is slightly mortified.

Goldcushions2 · 03/08/2024 11:00

SouperWoman · 03/08/2024 10:47

@Needaholidaay and in answer to your holiday dilemma. Call her. Tell her what you’ve seen. Tell her you are concerned. Let her talk/explain. Don’t accuse her of taking drugs or messing with the WiFi because you don’t know for sure. Just remind her that her job is to care for the dog and the house.

And then try to enjoy your holiday. There is nothing more you can do.

but as per my previous post - she needs to go.

This.
Be very calm, but concerned.
Don't give any hint of firing her.

She should be fired the minute you return.
I feel very sorry for you.
Very stressful.

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 03/08/2024 11:01

A 15 and 12 year old do not need an au pair for a few hours in the evening.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 03/08/2024 11:02

Is this real? You're paying for a 20 year old who drinks herself into oblivion to "care" for two teenagers - why?!

You're basically paying to have a wayward student living in your house. Bonkers. Get rid.

Beautiful3 · 03/08/2024 11:07

That's unacceptable. I'd wait until I got home to fire her. As I wouldn't want her to leave now and leave my dog alone.

GoFigure235 · 03/08/2024 11:10

For what you are paying her (and the cost of her board), I would get a part-time housekeeper for the 2 evenings you work late who can clean and cook dinner for the kids, and a proper dog sitter for when you are away. Probably won't cost you much more (if anything) and will be a lot less hassle.

Boxina · 03/08/2024 11:12

GoFigure235 · 03/08/2024 11:10

For what you are paying her (and the cost of her board), I would get a part-time housekeeper for the 2 evenings you work late who can clean and cook dinner for the kids, and a proper dog sitter for when you are away. Probably won't cost you much more (if anything) and will be a lot less hassle.

This is what I suggested upthread. It makes so much more sense and will be way cheaper.

Roryno · 03/08/2024 11:12

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 03/08/2024 11:01

A 15 and 12 year old do not need an au pair for a few hours in the evening.

That’s up to the OP! It might be nice to have someone flick a Hoover round and wipe the kitchen down etc too. I think OP said one of the children had some issues, so it is probably good to have someone “in charge” to go to if need be.

The issue is that this person might not be as dependable as you hoped. To be fair, I was an au pair in Paris at that age. I probably did my share of going out drinking on days off. But the kids were v well looked after.

I would say, if you like this girl and want her to stay, have a chat with her. Tell her your worries and that she needs to pull her socks up. See if it improves.

MounjaroUser · 03/08/2024 11:16

She's put you in a terrible situation. I would have to call her and say you know she's had a man staying there overnight (no need to tell her how you know - for all she knows a neighbour has dobbed her in) and that you want him to get out immediately and not return. Tell her you will talk to her when you get back. When you do get back, fire her. She's a liability.

I do understand your need to have someone there when you're a single mum. It's very hard having full responsibility, but she's not the one for you.

EI12 · 03/08/2024 11:20

Just relax and enjoy your holiday - you are a single mum, working full-time and a provider! You need your rest. Deal with it when you come back. And before you make your decision, may I say something. I have no memory of it at all, but my late parents told me that the best and kindest nanny I had was a drunk and spoke little English. No cameras in those days, but parents said she had adored me and handled me in such a way, that when her children had children and asked her to come back to Malta, they were never able to find a nanny like that.

kiwiane · 03/08/2024 11:21

I would wait until you’re back before you raise it with her; you can do very little about this now so try to make the most of your break.
I would let her go on your return.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 03/08/2024 11:24

Phone her and ask if the dog is ok. You’re concerned about the dog being left, don’t mention how you know. If you’re really worried about the dog’s welfare contact dog boarders in your area and they will usually do a collection service.
At least you know your dog will then be safe and well.
Then when you get home get rid of her.

GoFigure235 · 03/08/2024 11:25

Boxina · 03/08/2024 11:12

This is what I suggested upthread. It makes so much more sense and will be way cheaper.

I agree. Much nicer having the house to yourself the rest of the time as well.

GoldenLegend · 03/08/2024 11:25

Do nothing until you get back then give her minimum notice. I assume it’s a week. Did you get her through an agency? I’d tell them too. I think in part the problem is you’ve been too slack with her so she thinks she can take the piss.

sleekcat · 03/08/2024 11:26

You don't need an au pair when you have a 15 year old in the house. Tell her you don't need her anymore and get a proper dog sitter next time you go away. I would also call her and tell her you saw the footage where the dog escaped and that's you're worried about it. Anything else - having someone over when you're away - is probably to be expected given her age and that the children aren't there to see him.

But it sounds like she is a bit of a bad influence if she is drunk around your family at the weekends. If you want someone to cook you could ask your 15 year old to start dinner. Mine could do this by that age. Whether they would or not is another matter but you could always use the saved money to pay them instead!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 03/08/2024 11:30

Sounds like she's crossed over into a lodger rather than an Au Pair.

At 15 and 12, you don't need an Au Pair anymore and she's outgrown the role. Time for her to move on and for you to employ a dog walker.

You don't have to angrily fire her and chuck her out onto the pavement with her stuff in binbags (much as you might like to at the moment), it can be presented as a natural progression, which would be easier for the youngest to adapt to.

Orquid · 03/08/2024 11:31

wait until you are back; enjoy your holiday; not much you can do from where you are. Don’t look at the ring app

Winter2020 · 03/08/2024 11:31

I wouldn’t confront this while you are away - if she packs her bags and flounces you have no one around for the dog for the rest of the week and you said there is no one else you can ask at the moment.

I’m going to go against the grain slightly and say it is unrealistic to have someone live with you, a 20 year old particularly, and say a flat no to guests. She originally asked for a guest when your kids were with their dad and you said no. Now she has someone visit while you are away for a week. The “shirtless man” scandal is probably just her and her boyfriend buying a takeaway - and if you continue to let her have no life even when the kids are away I hope she will be happy to move on/move in with him.

justrecognisedmyneighbouronhere · 03/08/2024 11:33

I'd leave it until you get home otherwise she could leave immediately and your dog wouldn't be cared for. Have it out with her face to face when you return and are calmer.

Willowkins · 03/08/2024 11:34

Are you someone who needs to be in control - maybe to make everything safe and everyone feels okay? If so, I completely get that. At some point though, you're going to have to let go. Right now, I think you really need to relax and enjoy your holiday. Which means you would have to park the conversation with your au pair and hope for the best with the dog. When you get back, maybe find alternative solutions and let her go because you don't trust her anymore.

Qanat53 · 03/08/2024 11:34

When it’s convenient for you, Catch her out by saying a neighbor has told you/ caught it on their video. This way she doesn’t know you are not aware of her turning off WiFi, but makes it clear to her you are aware of everything (that isn’t on your video.)
End her employment.
She will probably make up some nice lies for you.

ThinWomansBrain · 03/08/2024 11:34

"Older teenagers" is a bizarre way to describe a 12 year old - but regardless, if they and sibling need supervision, an unreliable 20 year old doesn't seem a great way to achieve that.
Contacting her while you're away may have unintended impact. Although she appears to have invited BF to stay when you've previously said no, the inebriated au pair and uninvited BF had the nous to realise they needed to get the dog back, so are looking out for the dog.
I'd let her get on with it, get rid when you get back.

Apolloneuro · 03/08/2024 11:35

What a shame you’ve been taken advantage of. She definitely needs to go.

In the short term I agree with pp who say drop a small hint that she’s been rumbled (neighbour’s told you about the dog getting out) just enough to realise the walls have eyes. That will probably at least make her look after the dog properly.

Ring her every day asking if the dog’s ok.

Sack her the minute you get home.