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to think these people in Sunderland are not "protesting".

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Misthios · 02/08/2024 22:29

They are not protestors. They are not protesting. They are common or garden thugs and criminals who are causing criminal damage, setting police offices on fire and attacking police officers.

Total scumbags.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnl0lkrxgvxo

Building on fire

Protesters in Sunderland set car on fire and clash with police

Northumbria Police says its officers have been "subjected to serious violence".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnl0lkrxgvxo

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spikeandbuffy · 02/08/2024 23:25

x.com/Cityintel1/status/1819481547164287288

Seems to be a list here

HeyTalkToMeGoose · 02/08/2024 23:25

From tik tok poster 'Layla'

to think these people in Sunderland are not "protesting".
PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 23:25

I don't dismiss the idea of agents provocateurs, but if there are some they are not on the frontline of the riots or in government offices. They are in a room somewhere in another country, tapping out hate on a keyboard.

Just adjusting my tin foil hat!

Lifeomars · 02/08/2024 23:27

emilyelf · 02/08/2024 23:05

I bet you anything you wish that these thugs have been in and out of prison before.

And I bet loads of them are domestic abusers and absent fathers though the latter is a good thing given the way they behave

LBFseBrom · 02/08/2024 23:27

Rent-a-mob.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 02/08/2024 23:27

SallyWD · 02/08/2024 23:19

I'm so upset and angry about it that I want to do something, like the counter protesters in Liverpool. Form a protective ring around a mosque or something. I want to counteract the evil.
It's visibly male violence. It would be nice if women could unite and rise up against it. Sadly from what I've seen on social media there are plenty of women who agree with them wholeheartedly.

There seems to be some female counter protestors in Liverpool. I'd think more women are in sympathy with Pat than otherwise.

A defiant Scouse pensioner took to the streets of Liverpool to defend a mosque from 'far-right protesters' amid another night of rioting in Britain.
Pat, 71, was part of the counter-protest that gathered on West Derby Road on Friday evening to oppose a planned demonstration outside the Abdullah Quilliam Mosque.
The grandmother from Toxteth, Liverpool was carrying a 'Nans against Nazis sign'.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13704123/Scouse-pensioner-Liverpool-protect-mosque-far-right-protesters.html

ChemicalAli · 02/08/2024 23:28

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Lifeomars · 02/08/2024 23:29

Marseillaise · 02/08/2024 23:16

Farage bears a lot of responsibility for this. He's an utter disgrace.

He's loving this, will be treating his fans to another flag flanked propaganda video when this weekend is over.

happinessischocolate · 02/08/2024 23:29

We can thank Tommy 10 names, Nigel farage, Lee Anderson Darren grimes etc for making these thugs think that their racist views are acceptable

PyongyangKipperbang · 02/08/2024 23:30

Terry Pratchett once described the IQ of a mob as the IQ of the thickest person divided by the number of mobsters. Accurate I would say.

Edingril · 02/08/2024 23:30

happinessischocolate · 02/08/2024 23:29

We can thank Tommy 10 names, Nigel farage, Lee Anderson Darren grimes etc for making these thugs think that their racist views are acceptable

No they are doing it themselves no one is to blame for what they are doing except the idiots doing it

WindsurfingDreams · 02/08/2024 23:31

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 02/08/2024 23:27

There seems to be some female counter protestors in Liverpool. I'd think more women are in sympathy with Pat than otherwise.

A defiant Scouse pensioner took to the streets of Liverpool to defend a mosque from 'far-right protesters' amid another night of rioting in Britain.
Pat, 71, was part of the counter-protest that gathered on West Derby Road on Friday evening to oppose a planned demonstration outside the Abdullah Quilliam Mosque.
The grandmother from Toxteth, Liverpool was carrying a 'Nans against Nazis sign'.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13704123/Scouse-pensioner-Liverpool-protect-mosque-far-right-protesters.html

Good for her. We need more stories like this!

cakeorwine · 02/08/2024 23:32

Edingril · 02/08/2024 23:30

No they are doing it themselves no one is to blame for what they are doing except the idiots doing it

These things don't happen in a vacuum.

CassieMaddox · 02/08/2024 23:32

PyongyangKipperbang · 02/08/2024 23:30

Terry Pratchett once described the IQ of a mob as the IQ of the thickest person divided by the number of mobsters. Accurate I would say.

He was very wise, couched in humour

MistressoftheDarkSide · 02/08/2024 23:32

EmeraldRoulette · 02/08/2024 23:22

Yes the copycat thing is a problem. There was a point during the 2011 riots where it became clear to me that the news had suddenly stopped. It was around 10/11 pm and I was getting reports from colleagues all over London whose high roads were being smashed up - but the reporting suddenly stopped. They fixed on Clapham and stayed there after it calmed.

Even LBC, which was predominantly a London station at that time, was no longer taking calls from people who could tell you where to avoid going. I then realised that this was a policy in order to stop copycat rioting.

Obviously now social media is more in use, the copycats have greater access to information about where to go next. and they will use media where the messages disappear immediately in order to lead the group onto the next specific locality.

I nearly posted on a different thread about this, yours in fact @MistressoftheDarkSide - to say the level of orchestration here is extremely high. The organisers have been waiting to unleash this for some time. And much as the London riots were terrifying, this looks worse.

Twitter is riddled with people with pics and blue ticks encouraging it. Not people we know. People whose accounts have been up a few months. Likely not even real people. All posting in sympathy for the thugs.

Agreed. We do have homegrown useful idiots for any agencies that think destabilisation on a mass scale could be helpful to any number of agendas. It just takes the right catalyst and voila.... The potential scale of this over the weekend is what's giving me hinky vibes.

Outbreaks like this have happened before, yes, but usually it's confined to a few localised areas and dies down pretty quickly. The toxic ingredients of this looked at as a whole are so volatile. It's almost as though we have had fascist sleeper cells just biding their time. It is so beyond the comprehension of most people that a tragedy so horrendous and so personal could be used in this way, it's sickening.

But while there are a good proportion of knuckledraggers on the ground, it's dangerous to assume a complete lack of intelligence in the background. Most psychopaths are dangerously intelligent after all.

Highonthehillsisalonelygoatherd · 02/08/2024 23:32

HeyTalkToMeGoose · 02/08/2024 23:24

@Highonthehillsisalonelygoatherd

It's on tik tok

Portsmouth
Bristol
Leeds
High Wycombe
Belfast
Nottingham
Blackpool
Blackburn
Manchester
Hull
Wrexham

Tomorrow,august 3rd

Oh goodness, that's awful 😪 I had no idea it was that widespread.

ChemicalAli · 02/08/2024 23:32

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Lifeomars · 02/08/2024 23:33

plhkldsytrd · 02/08/2024 23:19

What are they protesting exactly?

they don't actually know, they know that they hate "forrin" people and "mooslims" and they love getting pissed up, snorting coke and fighting. Seen a couple of them interviewed and they made the average chimp sound like an orator

wayfairer · 02/08/2024 23:34

Hope every stays safe, sadly the tax payers will be paying for all the destruction some of these rioters need to be charged with attempted murder, throwing a brick at people is attempted murder so awful saw a video of a policeman getting hit disgusting hope their all ok

ChemicalAli · 02/08/2024 23:35

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PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 23:35

Is it a good idea to circulate the dates and times of the "protests". I know it will be all over Twitter etc, but maybe we shouldn't give them the extra oxygen? Plus MNHQ might not be happy!

plhkldsytrd · 02/08/2024 23:36

they don't actually know, they know that they hate "forrin" people and "mooslims" and they love getting pissed up, snorting coke and fighting. Seen a couple of them interviewed and they made the average chimp sound like an orator

Reminds me of the "protests" when the Iraq war started, protestors in my town chanted "stop the war, kill the Iraqis" Hmm

ChemicalAli · 02/08/2024 23:36

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StressedAndDepressed1 · 02/08/2024 23:37

Edingril · 02/08/2024 23:30

No they are doing it themselves no one is to blame for what they are doing except the idiots doing it

No, the people inciting racial hatred everyday and blaming every issue in this country on immigration are to blame.

YabaJaba · 02/08/2024 23:38

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