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to think these people in Sunderland are not "protesting".

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Misthios · 02/08/2024 22:29

They are not protestors. They are not protesting. They are common or garden thugs and criminals who are causing criminal damage, setting police offices on fire and attacking police officers.

Total scumbags.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnl0lkrxgvxo

Building on fire

Protesters in Sunderland set car on fire and clash with police

Northumbria Police says its officers have been "subjected to serious violence".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnl0lkrxgvxo

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Whitegrenache · 02/08/2024 23:16

I'm originally from Sunderland now l live in Durham and I am appalled by these thugs.
Those who are wearing a Sunderland football top are not true fans of the club either. I apologise on their behalf

Marseillaise · 02/08/2024 23:16

Farage bears a lot of responsibility for this. He's an utter disgrace.

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 23:17

wayfairer · 02/08/2024 23:14

Maybe because their outside instigators? Coached in to start a riot so we can all be told new draconian laws and facial recognition cameras are being bought in for our safety and benefit?! Maybe

Who are the "outside instigators"?

spikeandbuffy · 02/08/2024 23:17

The car that's been turned over is just a woman who went to get food
She's posted on FB worried about how she's going to get to work

MistressoftheDarkSide · 02/08/2024 23:17

The concept of "agents provocateurs" is not a new thing and not implausible.

Notonthestairs · 02/08/2024 23:17

"Outside instigators" my arse. They are trying to evade police, that's all.

HeyTalkToMeGoose · 02/08/2024 23:18

I'm shocked to see a list of towns/cities released where the next 'protests' are taking place

None are any of our local towns thankfully! If you are on this list pls take care!

ChemicalAli · 02/08/2024 23:18

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CassieMaddox · 02/08/2024 23:18

Summerflames · 02/08/2024 23:03

They've been in Liverpool tonight as well. Loads more riots planned for tomorrow, one in my home town so I'll be staying indoors.

I am considering counter protesting in my closest city (Bristol)
Not in my name. "British" to me is tolerant, welcoming, using our relative privilege to support others who are less fortunate. Any race, any religion is welcome here, we have been "multicultural" for as long as we've been a nation. I want my country back. Far right racists can fuck right off.

plhkldsytrd · 02/08/2024 23:19

What are they protesting exactly?

Highonthehillsisalonelygoatherd · 02/08/2024 23:19

HeyTalkToMeGoose · 02/08/2024 23:18

I'm shocked to see a list of towns/cities released where the next 'protests' are taking place

None are any of our local towns thankfully! If you are on this list pls take care!

Where have you seen that? I hope our local town isn't on it either! 😬

SallyWD · 02/08/2024 23:19

I'm so upset and angry about it that I want to do something, like the counter protesters in Liverpool. Form a protective ring around a mosque or something. I want to counteract the evil.
It's visibly male violence. It would be nice if women could unite and rise up against it. Sadly from what I've seen on social media there are plenty of women who agree with them wholeheartedly.

WindsurfingDreams · 02/08/2024 23:19

MistressoftheDarkSide · 02/08/2024 23:00

The news coverage is being very carefully curated, I assume to minimise potential social contagion. Deprive the arseholes of oxygen / exposure. Which could go either way - either they'll get bored or they'll double down. Given that the police and judicial systems are underfunded, undermanned etc they have to get it under control somehow because the knock on effects are going to cost alot if money, not to mention the emotional cost and community disruption.

It's a bloody tragic mess. I feel for the locals. If I wasn't on the South coast I'd bring a broom.

Agreed, it's very sensible.

I just wish they had been so sensible when it came to how much air time Reform /farage got during the election.

TattiePants · 02/08/2024 23:20

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No this is a tiny minority, many of whom are not local, and are in no way representative of the majority of honest, law-abiding Mackems. I think the hundreds of people getting up early tomorrow to help with the clean up will show who the real locals are.

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 23:20

MistressoftheDarkSide · 02/08/2024 23:17

The concept of "agents provocateurs" is not a new thing and not implausible.

I honestly don't think that the government is secretly trying to encourage the rioters in order to bring in draconian laws, , which seems to be what wayfairer seems to be implying.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 02/08/2024 23:21

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 23:20

I honestly don't think that the government is secretly trying to encourage the rioters in order to bring in draconian laws, , which seems to be what wayfairer seems to be implying.

Probably not, but very little would surprise me these days.

EmeraldRoulette · 02/08/2024 23:22

Iamonsocialmediatoomuch · 02/08/2024 22:58

It seems a lot like copy cat rioting, it happened a few years ago in London, lots of looting and damage. It does seem to be escalating.

Yes the copycat thing is a problem. There was a point during the 2011 riots where it became clear to me that the news had suddenly stopped. It was around 10/11 pm and I was getting reports from colleagues all over London whose high roads were being smashed up - but the reporting suddenly stopped. They fixed on Clapham and stayed there after it calmed.

Even LBC, which was predominantly a London station at that time, was no longer taking calls from people who could tell you where to avoid going. I then realised that this was a policy in order to stop copycat rioting.

Obviously now social media is more in use, the copycats have greater access to information about where to go next. and they will use media where the messages disappear immediately in order to lead the group onto the next specific locality.

I nearly posted on a different thread about this, yours in fact @MistressoftheDarkSide - to say the level of orchestration here is extremely high. The organisers have been waiting to unleash this for some time. And much as the London riots were terrifying, this looks worse.

Twitter is riddled with people with pics and blue ticks encouraging it. Not people we know. People whose accounts have been up a few months. Likely not even real people. All posting in sympathy for the thugs.

Lifeomars · 02/08/2024 23:22

I live in Nottingham and lots of businesses have announced that they are going to close tomorrow as we are one of the cities that is likely to see trouble. This story is being covered in our local media and the comments make me want to weep, racist, threatening, unreasoned blathering about the "silent and good people who have had enough" Does anyone honestly think that if the person who has been charged with this atrocious crime were white we would be seeing any of this despicable behaviour.

ChemicalAli · 02/08/2024 23:23

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StressedAndDepressed1 · 02/08/2024 23:23

I find it very interesting that none of this mob turned out when Lucy Letby killed multiple babies, and was found guilty in court.

Yet when there's a rumour floating around on social media they can mobilise to smash up multiple towns and cities.

shams05 · 02/08/2024 23:24

Apparently there's a whole list of places where they've planned protests over the weekend and beyond.
There was one in Liverpool as well today outside a mosque.
Thankfully they looked small in number, just a bunch of drunk thugs and there was a large number countering them.

TheHateIsNotGood · 02/08/2024 23:24

Yes these people are yobs and should be put back in their box with some jail time.

But why are they protesting in Sunderland? I don't think it's all racism and far right shit, there's a great deal of entrenched poverty in Sunderland and Nissan can't employ everybody in town.

I can honestly say that it is the most deprived place I've ever been to in the UK and that's going back decades. It opened my eyes to the great disparities that exist.

It's the sort of place primed to riot for any reason - not just for narrow-reasons like racial hatred but for being forgotten for far too long in the wealth-distribution scheme of things.

HeyTalkToMeGoose · 02/08/2024 23:24

@Highonthehillsisalonelygoatherd

It's on tik tok

Portsmouth
Bristol
Leeds
High Wycombe
Belfast
Nottingham
Blackpool
Blackburn
Manchester
Hull
Wrexham

Tomorrow,august 3rd

spikeandbuffy · 02/08/2024 23:24

HeyTalkToMeGoose · 02/08/2024 23:18

I'm shocked to see a list of towns/cities released where the next 'protests' are taking place

None are any of our local towns thankfully! If you are on this list pls take care!

My city listed for tomorrow and I'm due to go and get my new glasses...

ChemicalAli · 02/08/2024 23:25

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