To ask what ‘far right’ means to you?

[Rainbowsponge]

Let’s not make this a Southport thread, just a political one. I consider myself a centrist and voted Lib Dem (to get us back in EU but that’s another story).

There’s been a lot of talk of ‘far right’ on here over the last few days, but very few observations on what far right actually means. To me it means things like capital punishment, enforced religion, open state misogyny, a blanket ban on abortion, homosexuality being outlawed, that sort of thing.

To me, having justified concerns about immigration, having views on new house building, voting Conservative or disapproving of Just Stop Oil protestors doesn’t make you ‘far right’. Centre or right of centre perhaps, but not far right.

What do you think?

It's now used as a smear to tar all of the white working class and try and shut them up.

There are two things, far right of the political spectrum which will differ country to country. So of course people of colour can be right leaning and even far right, although usually in less numbers as right wing generally means anti immigration. Then there is what is referred to as ‘the far right’ which generally refers to the far right of the political west, so typically white, anti immigration, anti cultural mixing, traditional gender stereotypes, anti gay and on the extreme end neonazi sympathising.

OP, I think you are looking at it objectively - to describe politics. People on this thread who are more confident about what and whom they consider ‘far right’ seem to suggest it is something different.

Look who's high up in the ranks!

Hitler is the epitome of far right.

The far right idolise him.

Far right = people who support ideas like his - racist, fascist, authoritarian, violent and power hungry.

Well this is nonsense. Nobody disagreeing with, for eg, Corbyn woukd call him far right.

"Far right" means nothing to me now, a bit like Nazi. I often think what they really want to say is the "native white working classes".

What mental gymnastics are you specifically referring to though?
The far right will look different in different political systems, do you really need that explaining to you? Of course there is a right wing side of politics in the Middle East, that will look very different to the right wing side of politics in the west and specifically the UK. What is your point?

Yet on other threads they say they care about poverty and elitism? Why give such awful people more power and opportunity for influence?

Why does it look different? Are the basic premises not the same?

Justified is very much in the mind of the believer, isn't it.

Every single ghastly act of domestic violence or genocide or oppression has its "justification" -
She made me do it.
They are untermenschen.
Blah blah...

FYI, no understanding of the ideology of the far right is possible without including its deep seated racism.

Yep and hating gay men.

of course people of colour can be right leaning and even far right, although usually in less numbers as right wing generally means anti immigration.

I thought the Japanese are incredibly anti-immigration, or maybe they aren’t considered to be ‘of colour’.

Trump

It’s a catch-all term designed to shut down debate and signal the virtue of the person uttering it.

Don’t particularly like drag queens? Far right!

Roll your eyes a bit at the huge fuck off pride flag emblazoned on your bank? Far right!

Of course not. People of all races can be far right. Though they might use different terms like Hindutva, nationalist, extreme conservative and so on.

Yes, far right views exist in other countries but you are on a UK website talking to a predominantly UK audience. Of course the general feeling will be white, frothing-at-the-mouth, uneducated racists. As we've witnessed in Southport. I hope this post isn't intended to stir up more animosity.

As a someone from a very traditional white working class background in one of the poorest parts of the country I can’t say this resonates with me at all. I have never felt tarred by the term ‘the far right’.

It being used inappropriately sometimes doesn’t mean it means nothing. It has a definite meaning, as pointed out by PPs. And some current politicians in the U.K. meet it.

I’m gender critical and have noted it’s considered ‘far right’ by some

Hey! You leave DMs out of this! They’re my favourite boot! I grew up on punk and DMs were a sign of anti-racism. Shame the idiots took the look.

Good point! The term for Corbyn would be the (equally meaningless) “far left”!

Bollocks. I'm white working class and no one has ever accused me of being far right or a racist because I'm neither of those things.

The basic premises are the same. Authoritarian, ultranationalist, lack of rights, ethnonationalist etc There's no difference. The far right love the Taliban for example.

I’m a fan of DMs - the only footwear that are comfortable for my wide feet.