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To be annoyed at people who turn off 'read' receipts on WhatsApp?

260 replies

PrincessOfPreschool · 01/08/2024 10:54

So basically you will never get blue ticks from them.

I know a few people who do this and it really annoys me because I now assume they've seen it but don't rant to reply. I keep my ticks on because sometimes I'm not able to check my phone frequently. I'd rather someone know I haven't seen their message yet, not that I'm ignoring them, or maybe I have seen it and just forgotten to reply - so they can prompt me.

I find it weirdly controlling that someone doesn't want me know they've read my message. Of course, you don't know when an email has been read, or a phone message listened to, but WhatsApp has that function which I think is great.

If you're someone who turns off the blue ticks, can you tell me why...

OP posts:
Marblessolveeverything · 01/08/2024 15:54

PrincessOfPreschool · 01/08/2024 15:48

That's a good point at the end. It is an interactive platform so that's all part of it.

Actually I'm not really a controlling person at all, but I'm pretty open and I really dislike secrecy. The fact you can CHOOSE not to let people know you've read messages just doesn't sit well with me. But I'm seeing why people do choose that now. I never feel pressured to answer, I actively want people to know I've read (or not yet seen) their messages. So I guess if you do feel pressured to answer immediately or have needy friends and family, or you are a very private person, then you might turn the ticks off.

You really seriously need to reflect on your misunderstanding of control. You are equating a person's notification settings on their phone with secrecy.

Very concerning behaviour and honesty it would fit the criteria in a relationship as being abusive.

Seaglassandchampagne · 01/08/2024 15:54

It’s weird to categorise it as secrecy, as if there is something furtive about it.

It may be that you’re quite young but this expectation that everyone knows exactly when you’re online and when you last checked WhatsApp and whether you’ve viewed messages etc. is a very new phenomenon and I have no faith that it’s a healthy development. There isn’t any need for us to have this much involvement or insight into one another’s lives. Only a very few years ago people happily sent texts with no way of knowing if they had been read, and we all survived and had significantly fewer issues regarding anxiety and mental ill-health.

There’s nothing secretive about deciding that you simply don’t fancy participating in this brand new social experiment where your behaviour is tracked and shared in real time with friends, family and acquaintances. I would argue it’s quite normal and understandable for people to be wary of that.

PullUpTheDrawbridge · 01/08/2024 15:55

It's nobody's business but mine when I read or reply to messages. A text is not a summons. I'll answer in my own sweet time.

Abhannmor · 01/08/2024 16:02

One of my adult DCs has his turned off. I don't really expect replies to most messages - absent some emergency. But I would like to see 'last active' time. That's just me being a worrier though. It's not my place to decide.

Rooroobear · 01/08/2024 16:02

Mine are off because I’ll decide when to reply to someone. My life is busy I don’t have time to reply straight away sometimes or I just don’t want to reply straight away. I hate when people chase a message up that requires no immediate reply. Then get pissed if about being ignored. Far easier to have them off. If you don’t like that, tough shit

LostittoBostik · 01/08/2024 16:03

Yes I bloody hate it.

Loads of my friends do it.

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 01/08/2024 16:03

Seaglassandchampagne · 01/08/2024 15:03

The world is full of insane people who really go out of their way to interpret things in the most negative and unreasonable way possible 😂

😂😂😂

It isn't negative it is my opinion based on what I believe is sound logic. Your very own reply confirms you do it due to worrying about pressure and anxiety to reply which indicates a confidence issue? So kinda confirms my point 🤷‍♀️

If you want to share a counter opinion, instead of having a meaningless dig at me for no reason, I am open to others views.

LostittoBostik · 01/08/2024 16:09

Seaglassandchampagne · 01/08/2024 15:54

It’s weird to categorise it as secrecy, as if there is something furtive about it.

It may be that you’re quite young but this expectation that everyone knows exactly when you’re online and when you last checked WhatsApp and whether you’ve viewed messages etc. is a very new phenomenon and I have no faith that it’s a healthy development. There isn’t any need for us to have this much involvement or insight into one another’s lives. Only a very few years ago people happily sent texts with no way of knowing if they had been read, and we all survived and had significantly fewer issues regarding anxiety and mental ill-health.

There’s nothing secretive about deciding that you simply don’t fancy participating in this brand new social experiment where your behaviour is tracked and shared in real time with friends, family and acquaintances. I would argue it’s quite normal and understandable for people to be wary of that.

This is true, but WhatsApp did for a while put an end to all those "did you get my text?" follow ups.

Seaglassandchampagne · 01/08/2024 16:17

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 01/08/2024 16:03

😂😂😂

It isn't negative it is my opinion based on what I believe is sound logic. Your very own reply confirms you do it due to worrying about pressure and anxiety to reply which indicates a confidence issue? So kinda confirms my point 🤷‍♀️

If you want to share a counter opinion, instead of having a meaningless dig at me for no reason, I am open to others views.

And your reply confirms I would be justified in being anxious about people’s views because they’ll go out of their way to interpret completely benign or neutral behaviours as manipulation or lack of confidence!

I have gone through life generally assuming the best of people and not assuming malicious intent in their actions and it has served me well, you should try it.

I certainly don’t have any personal problem with leaving messages unread but having had people follow up with questions about whether I’m ignoring them or if they’ve annoyed me (very much betraying the insecurity of the people who NEED TO KNOW their message has been read) I’ve decided it’s a world less hassle just to switch the damn things off.

Seaglassandchampagne · 01/08/2024 16:18

LostittoBostik · 01/08/2024 16:09

This is true, but WhatsApp did for a while put an end to all those "did you get my text?" follow ups.

Instead you get ‘is everything ok?’ follow ups from people getting anxious or annoyed that you’ve read and not replied.

Rewis · 01/08/2024 16:27

I think controlling is a leap. But I agree it is annoying 😁

Wittyapple · 01/08/2024 16:38

Mine are turned off. My online status and notifications are also turned off. People don't need to know if i've read their message and I like to reply at my own pace.

If its something urgent, then they'll usually call not whatsapp.

Choochoo21 · 01/08/2024 16:49

Why do you need to know they’ve seen it or not?

I don’t get that at all.

Surely they’ll just reply when they can - whether that’s as soon as they’ve read it or they’ll read it and respond later.

EmeraldRoulette · 01/08/2024 17:03

@PrincessOfPreschool

just whhyyyyyyyy

communication really is being wrecked by the crazy.

summerdazey · 01/08/2024 17:10

ImNotThereAmI · 01/08/2024 10:58

You say you think it’s weirdly controlling when someone doesn’t want you to see if they’ve read it. Have you ever thought that it might be seen as controlling to want to force someone to tell you they’ve read it?

This

Mousefoot · 01/08/2024 17:14

Isn't it all a bit pointless anyway? I read message from the notification and only open them when I'm ready to reply. So, I've often seen them long before I actually reply. I do it that way because then the notification stays up to remind me.

Itisjustmyopinion · 01/08/2024 17:17

Yeah I would think your view is the controlling one OP and not the other way round

I have mine on but don’t have an issue with the friends that do have it off. If they reply great, if they don’t then I will either phone if I absolutely need a response or just ignore it. If they miss out on something then that’s on them

I do have the last seen online switched off which I also know annoys people. But obsessing over that is worse than the blue ticks stalking imo

Skyrainlight · 01/08/2024 17:33

I find it very controlling that you want to see exactly when someone has read your message. And that you didn't put a poll with this post because you knew how it would go.

Choochoo21 · 01/08/2024 17:38

Mousefoot · 01/08/2024 17:14

Isn't it all a bit pointless anyway? I read message from the notification and only open them when I'm ready to reply. So, I've often seen them long before I actually reply. I do it that way because then the notification stays up to remind me.

I do this too.

So I have the blue ticks enabled but I would have read it before it shows anyway, so using the blue ticks as evidence of me reading it is pointless.

Thingamebobwotsit · 01/08/2024 17:40

gettingbacktobeingmeagain · 01/08/2024 10:59

I've turned mine off so as to reduce the pressure to reply immediately - not to be controlling but to try and be less controlled by my phone. It is an attempt to have uninterrupted peace and the ability to focus on what I want/need to be doing, rather than feel I need to respond to friends and family as soon as they have sent/I have read a message. It's about mental and emotional headspace, and not being at everyone else's beck and call all the time.

This. I am constantly online for work and want time off being pressured into responding.

paisley256 · 01/08/2024 17:44

Why is 'left on read' even a thing? Surely if someone reads but doesn't reply straight away you just think they're busy and they'll get back to me when they can?? I do anyway, you can't expect instant responses to things people are busy.

EmeraldRoulette · 01/08/2024 17:56

paisley256 · 01/08/2024 17:44

Why is 'left on read' even a thing? Surely if someone reads but doesn't reply straight away you just think they're busy and they'll get back to me when they can?? I do anyway, you can't expect instant responses to things people are busy.

There’s another reason this baffles me.

How is a conversation supposed to end if people complain about being left on read?

I didn’t actually realise how many people found it upsetting until I saw it on here. so I don’t think anyone I mix with has been upset by it.

I also had to explain to my last boyfriend that I am not bothered about it. If it’s something that requires a reply, then it’s different - but people seem to be messaging each other during the working day or any time really and being upset that they’re left “on read”.

I have had a couple of threads about friendship and it came up a lot that people are angry about messaging expectations. I was talking about people who haven’t been in touch for months or even years!

But there were quite a few angry posts from people saying they didn’t have time for those who expect instant replies. Neither would I.

It had genuinely never occurred to me that people are being bombarded with ridiculous expectations from their friends or family.

although it’s a great shame if people are being classified as irritating when we are not the ones expecting Instaplies!

GhostSpider68 · 01/08/2024 17:56

I've had mine off for years, and will never turn it back on. I like to reply in my own time, and can't be dealing with "it takes a minute to reply - I know they have read it!" Bullshit.

If anyone needs an answer straight away or the information is that important they can call me directly.

Personally I would love to get an old Nokia phone again and just use old fashioned text messages. Then I wouldn't get addicted/distracted by other apps. But everyone uses watts app so it's a bit of can't beat them join them situation.

PrincessOfPreschool · 01/08/2024 18:05

Skyrainlight · 01/08/2024 17:33

I find it very controlling that you want to see exactly when someone has read your message. And that you didn't put a poll with this post because you knew how it would go.

I didn't put a poll because I'm on the app and they don't have the option.

OP posts:
Sinderalla · 01/08/2024 18:07

I HATE WHATSAPP
We all have our own way of going mad & if I could change how this makes me feel.... trust me, I would.

I can't stand anyone who has their last seen on and is on WhatsApp quite often but didn't reply or open your message.
I mean, wtf.
This boils my blood. I've stopped messaging the people that do this.
You can reply to everyone else but ignore me, it's how I believe it to be. So I'm taking myself out I'd this situation but not texting you again.

I also hate the reading of a WhatsApp and not replying.

I wish this didn't annoy me and I've turned off my last seen and my online so I can't see other people's.