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Clare’s law disclosure

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Rachellilllian · 31/07/2024 17:08

I recently started seeing a guy and heard a rumour he may have hit an ex girlfriend. I did question him about it and he obviously lied, but I knew something felt off so I made an application to Clare’s law and they called me the same day with information that he is a serial domestic abuser. Clearly I need to end things but I don’t know how to navigate this. We are booked to go on holiday in a few days? Any suggestions would be appreciated

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Corvidmango · 01/08/2024 06:20

That’s tricky. If you think he won’t believe the ‘it’s not you…’ line. May be a D&V bug. But you’d have to stay home. If he found you out in a lie that could be risky. I’m not an expert in any way but I think you have to tread carefully here. Def get advice from police and let them know when you are ending it. Good luck.

itsgoingtobeabumpyride · 01/08/2024 06:40

I think doing it quickly and decisively is the only way.
Via text.
"I'm afraid this isn't working for me but I wish you all the best for the future" or something along those lines.
He'll answer, don't be drawn in, rinse and repeat you're original message.
Then stop answering.
I'd definitely take the advice of pps and ask the police or womens aid for advice.
I think you will need to be very security conscious for a while especially when you're outside.
❤️

Sassybooklover · 01/08/2024 09:12

No, you can't tell anyone that you have made a Claire's Law Disclosure. It's confidential. The police would have made this very clear to her at the time of disclosure. You certainly aren't allowed to tell the person, you've requested information on!!! No one should know, it's information for her only, so she can make a decision.

TheShiningCarpet · 01/08/2024 10:00

Do not create a convoluted lie, do not tell
him about the disclosure, get somewhere safe and just tell him you no longer wish to continue in the relationship

no discussions, no debate, no explanation

clean quick cut

longapple · 01/08/2024 10:56

Defuinitely run what you decide past the police to confirm that they think it's the best approach. They have more information than they have given you.

My approach would be as I said before, D and V at the last minute so you can't go on holiday and don't want to see anyone, to give you space. Then a text message.
If you think it would be better with a reason perhaps something like 'I've received some bad news that I can't / don't want to discuss and I'm afraid I can't be in a relationship at the moment, I'm sorry."
I would let him reply once, reiterate that I'm sorry but I need to process the news I received and ask him to respect my decision, then block.

He may suspect the reason but it could be just about any family emergency, health worry etc.

isitfridaay · 01/08/2024 11:19

longapple · 01/08/2024 10:56

Defuinitely run what you decide past the police to confirm that they think it's the best approach. They have more information than they have given you.

My approach would be as I said before, D and V at the last minute so you can't go on holiday and don't want to see anyone, to give you space. Then a text message.
If you think it would be better with a reason perhaps something like 'I've received some bad news that I can't / don't want to discuss and I'm afraid I can't be in a relationship at the moment, I'm sorry."
I would let him reply once, reiterate that I'm sorry but I need to process the news I received and ask him to respect my decision, then block.

He may suspect the reason but it could be just about any family emergency, health worry etc.

This is a great message.

A great way of handling it all round.

Sarahslaw · 01/08/2024 20:18

Sassybooklover · 01/08/2024 09:12

No, you can't tell anyone that you have made a Claire's Law Disclosure. It's confidential. The police would have made this very clear to her at the time of disclosure. You certainly aren't allowed to tell the person, you've requested information on!!! No one should know, it's information for her only, so she can make a decision.

The information you were given is confidential. The fact that you made/had a Claire’s law disclosure is not as you are not revealing any specific information about the person by stating you did the check.

ConfessionsOfAMumDramaQueen · 01/08/2024 21:49

Sarahslaw · 01/08/2024 20:18

The information you were given is confidential. The fact that you made/had a Claire’s law disclosure is not as you are not revealing any specific information about the person by stating you did the check.

The fact you submitted an application isn't necessarily confidential, the fact a disclosure was made off the back of it is. They only disclose if there is firstly something to disclose and secondly they think the person could be a danger to you so you have a right to know. Therefore stating there was a disclosure is in itself breaking the confidentiality.

Saying "I do a clares law check on all partners before we move in together as you can never be too careful" is fine.

"I Clare's law check all partners, just as well or I could have been stuck with Tom, Dick or Harry" is not fine, that's telling you those 3 have disclosures to be made and if you knew them you'd likely avoid them after that statement even if no specifics.

Sarahslaw · 02/08/2024 07:06

ConfessionsOfAMumDramaQueen · 01/08/2024 21:49

The fact you submitted an application isn't necessarily confidential, the fact a disclosure was made off the back of it is. They only disclose if there is firstly something to disclose and secondly they think the person could be a danger to you so you have a right to know. Therefore stating there was a disclosure is in itself breaking the confidentiality.

Saying "I do a clares law check on all partners before we move in together as you can never be too careful" is fine.

"I Clare's law check all partners, just as well or I could have been stuck with Tom, Dick or Harry" is not fine, that's telling you those 3 have disclosures to be made and if you knew them you'd likely avoid them after that statement even if no specifics.

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Surely it’s the issue of being able to identify the person then? If I said I did a Claire’s law on a previous partner and ended it, but didn’t state who this ex was and the person I was speaking to wouldn’t know either, then I haven’t done anything wrong as it’s in no way identifying?

we recently had a Sarah’s law disclosure (see my other thread). As this an anonymous forum I haven’t broken any rules by posting that on here as nobody is identifiable from the thread.

Also, with Sarah’s law you are allowed to use the information to safeguard the children and so social services were also informed there had been a disclosure and the schools have been too and therefore everyone knows there was a disclosure, but not what was in it. The police also notified the person they made a disclosure about and told them to stay away from now on. We were also able to tell the children that he was to stay away and the police had told us that he wasn’t safe so they should call the police immediately if they saw him. There isn’t any other way to safeguard the children and the police and social services seemed fine with us telling the children that much. I don’t think any court proceedings would be brought in those instances as this is not common gossip but using the information to safeguard the children (which is the purpose of the disclosure in the first place).

My partner hasn’t told me anything that was actually disclosed to him, including the person’s name (which I don’t even know) but we have told the children’s school what we knew that made us concerned in the first place in order to request a Sarah’s law and given that SS have told them a disclosure was made, surely nobody is breaking the law by discussing that during such meetings?

ConfessionsOfAMumDramaQueen · 02/08/2024 09:44

Sarahslaw · 02/08/2024 07:06

Surely it’s the issue of being able to identify the person then? If I said I did a Claire’s law on a previous partner and ended it, but didn’t state who this ex was and the person I was speaking to wouldn’t know either, then I haven’t done anything wrong as it’s in no way identifying?

we recently had a Sarah’s law disclosure (see my other thread). As this an anonymous forum I haven’t broken any rules by posting that on here as nobody is identifiable from the thread.

Also, with Sarah’s law you are allowed to use the information to safeguard the children and so social services were also informed there had been a disclosure and the schools have been too and therefore everyone knows there was a disclosure, but not what was in it. The police also notified the person they made a disclosure about and told them to stay away from now on. We were also able to tell the children that he was to stay away and the police had told us that he wasn’t safe so they should call the police immediately if they saw him. There isn’t any other way to safeguard the children and the police and social services seemed fine with us telling the children that much. I don’t think any court proceedings would be brought in those instances as this is not common gossip but using the information to safeguard the children (which is the purpose of the disclosure in the first place).

My partner hasn’t told me anything that was actually disclosed to him, including the person’s name (which I don’t even know) but we have told the children’s school what we knew that made us concerned in the first place in order to request a Sarah’s law and given that SS have told them a disclosure was made, surely nobody is breaking the law by discussing that during such meetings?

Exactly the police told them. They are the data controller. If you look at the link I sent it states you can't tell anyone without permission from data controller. If they decide they need to tell someone (social services, school etc) then they will or give you permission to do so. As the police have given OP no such permission she can't.

brightpompoms · 01/09/2024 09:23

How is it going OP?

Rachellilllian · 11/09/2024 07:27

brightpompoms · 01/09/2024 09:23

How is it going OP?

Thank you for checking in, yeah I made an excuse and ended it. I offered to pay half of the trip but he declined and was actually very nice. So relived. My advice to anyone is trust your gut instinct, it’s there to protect you x

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GeorgesMarvelousCalpol · 11/09/2024 08:22

Good news@Rachellilllian, well done! 👏
Good advice to trust your gut ❤️

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