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Huw Edwards

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Aquarius1234 · 31/07/2024 09:50

To think he shouldn't have been paid in full while off long term. As its more like being self employed.
But mainly cos it was 475k upwards of our TV licence money!
Another example is when a famous radio presenter s decide to go off for an extended break to film another show or something. Surely they don't get normal pay when they have extra weeks off not on air!!

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Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:11

noworklifebalance · 02/08/2024 16:57

I think it was more to do with pathetic statements such as:
“It's such a shame and so disappointing that such a skilled presenter - and he was good! - would let this base side of himself take over and destroy everything that was positive in his life.“

His skill as a presenter is totally irrelevant.

Such a shame and so disappointing - are phrases you would say to someone cheated on an exam and let themselves down not someone who had videos of child rape.

His base side suggests that he was a good person that had a flawed side to his personality. Again, this minimises the true impact of his crimes on the children in the videos.

They're not "pathetic" at all. You are just demonstrating your limited understanding of the human psyche.

It's not minimising the impact of his crimes at all. It's just that some of us understand more that everything in life is nuanced than others seem to,

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:12

Aquarius1234 · 02/08/2024 14:13

I wonder how the Queen would have felt knowing her death was going to be announced by someone that invited young men into his hotel room the night before Prince philips funeral. Forgetting the rest .

Funnily enough, I doubt somehow she ever gave that any thought!!

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:13

EasternStandard · 02/08/2024 17:00

Yes this, well said

Nonsense.

Janiie · 02/08/2024 17:15

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:08

I have read the full thread and I am perfectly calm. Some of you are foaming at the mouths trying to outdo yourselves with condemnation. You remind me of the mobs in the French revolution. Insults won't work on me. I don't care.

You keep bleating on about how easy a job newsreading is. Ever think why these people are paid such vast salaries? Are you familiar with the concept of supply and demand?

Someone upthread (think it might have been you) said that a pervert is all he is. No, it's not. Nobody is all one thing. He's got through 62 years successfully until now, so he must have had other things going for him. He still has those qualities whatever they are/were. The perverted side of him that willingly accepted images of child sexual abuse is one part of him. Anyone that thinks otherwise has a very limited understanding of people.

Foaming at the mouths Grin. Yeah sorry I do get wound up about sex offenders.

He is a a pervert. He viewed child abuse . His presenting skills mean nothing. 'Oh but but he was so lovely presenting Philip's funeral!' Yeah after allegedly trying to get a young man back to his posh hotel room the night before. What a man yayy Huw!

Stop trying to separate the perv from the autocue reader. They are the same person. Do better with your praise and adulation .

Janiie · 02/08/2024 17:19

It's not minimising the impact of his crimes at all. It's just that some of us understand more that everything in life is nuanced than others seem to'

'Nuanced'. 'He was betrayed by his basedness'. 'He was betrayed by his fatal flaws-. Do some of you think you're writing some kind of very silly and offensive book?

There is no 'nuance' here. What he has done is very clear.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:20

Janiie · 02/08/2024 17:06

His conviction does indeed change that in that it makes his fabulous presenting skills utterly irrelevant.

As a pp said all offenders manage to have lovely home lives and spiffing jobs but when we find out what they really are it negates it all. Well it should except for with his most ardent cheerleaders on here.

Don't be so obtuse! Nobody is "cheerleading" him whatsoever. That's more fiction. Everyone is united in despising what he has done. Some of us are able to be more analytical. You and others just want his head on a pike.

I'm more interested in why someone in his position would make the choice to do what he did. That doesn't make it any less heinous but I think it's important that lessons are learned. Did he have any qualms at all about it? Did he ever consider getting help for his perversions? Also, what did other people know? How long had the behaviour been going on for? Did his wife ever suspect anything? Presumably all his devices were forensically searched and these images were the full extent of what was found, but it seems bizarre to get to 60 and suddenly start acting on these perversions?

I'm sure there is a lot of this that will never come to light but looking at these aspects for me is more constructive than going round in circles calling him all sorts and criticising people who take a broader view of the scandal. We all know what he has done is beyond evil. That doesn't need to be hammered home again and again.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:21

Janiie · 02/08/2024 17:19

It's not minimising the impact of his crimes at all. It's just that some of us understand more that everything in life is nuanced than others seem to'

'Nuanced'. 'He was betrayed by his basedness'. 'He was betrayed by his fatal flaws-. Do some of you think you're writing some kind of very silly and offensive book?

There is no 'nuance' here. What he has done is very clear.

There is a considerable lack of comprehension and intelligence on this thread.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:23

Janiie · 02/08/2024 17:15

Foaming at the mouths Grin. Yeah sorry I do get wound up about sex offenders.

He is a a pervert. He viewed child abuse . His presenting skills mean nothing. 'Oh but but he was so lovely presenting Philip's funeral!' Yeah after allegedly trying to get a young man back to his posh hotel room the night before. What a man yayy Huw!

Stop trying to separate the perv from the autocue reader. They are the same person. Do better with your praise and adulation .

You're simply failing to understand what I'm saying, and that's on you and not me.

What's the point in getting "wound up" about them? It doesn't change anything. It's futile. We need to be doing something, and to do something about them, we need to understand more. I think you are very confused about the meaning of "praise and adulation".

Over40Overdating · 02/08/2024 17:32

Some posters on this thread make me fear for a judicial system that relies on a jury of peers to decide someone’s guilt based on fact, given the obsessive need to state hyperbole and speculation as FACT and anyone disagreeing being a paedophile supporter.

Facts matter in cases like this. No one is helped by moral outrage top trumps.

How do we ever learn to spot predators before they get to the level of HE and the guy who was supplying those images if we don’t accept they can be people we admire, people we love, people we might envy as often as they might be people we don’t like or respect.

As to the many on this thread who could ‘read an autocue’ just as well as any highly paid, highly skilled newsreader, give over. If it looks easy it’s because people are good at it. You absolutely could not do it and have a very limited view of what these people actually do.

Those who can, do. Those who can’t, shit talk on anonymous forums.

EasternStandard · 02/08/2024 17:38

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:11

They're not "pathetic" at all. You are just demonstrating your limited understanding of the human psyche.

It's not minimising the impact of his crimes at all. It's just that some of us understand more that everything in life is nuanced than others seem to,

I don’t think category A crime is nuanced

I don’t find him worth more interest but you do you

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:39

Over40Overdating · 02/08/2024 17:32

Some posters on this thread make me fear for a judicial system that relies on a jury of peers to decide someone’s guilt based on fact, given the obsessive need to state hyperbole and speculation as FACT and anyone disagreeing being a paedophile supporter.

Facts matter in cases like this. No one is helped by moral outrage top trumps.

How do we ever learn to spot predators before they get to the level of HE and the guy who was supplying those images if we don’t accept they can be people we admire, people we love, people we might envy as often as they might be people we don’t like or respect.

As to the many on this thread who could ‘read an autocue’ just as well as any highly paid, highly skilled newsreader, give over. If it looks easy it’s because people are good at it. You absolutely could not do it and have a very limited view of what these people actually do.

Those who can, do. Those who can’t, shit talk on anonymous forums.

Excellent post, well said @Over40Overdating! There's so much ignorance, it's frankly astounding.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 02/08/2024 17:41

Bromptotoo · 02/08/2024 17:02

He was a skilled presenter who was effing good at his job.

I don't think his conviction and disgrace change that when we look back.

“Huw has joined the chat.”
😳

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:42

EasternStandard · 02/08/2024 17:38

I don’t think category A crime is nuanced

I don’t find him worth more interest but you do you

I will do me, most certainly. I think you will find that I did not say the crime was "nuanced" but that's a clear lack of understanding on your part.

I would like to know why he did what he did, to gain some understanding of how society can prevent something like this happening again. But you continue to feign lack of interest (while posting on a thread about HE!!!) and let these perverts continue to do their evil worst, because we never learned any lessons from those who went before.

Now, you do you.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:43

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 02/08/2024 17:41

“Huw has joined the chat.”
😳

How very droll. 🙄

EasternStandard · 02/08/2024 17:48

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:42

I will do me, most certainly. I think you will find that I did not say the crime was "nuanced" but that's a clear lack of understanding on your part.

I would like to know why he did what he did, to gain some understanding of how society can prevent something like this happening again. But you continue to feign lack of interest (while posting on a thread about HE!!!) and let these perverts continue to do their evil worst, because we never learned any lessons from those who went before.

Now, you do you.

Ok go for it. I’m not stopping you

I am posting as much as my interest indicates. I think it’s a serious category A crime and found some posts dismissive so responded to those

I don’t find his presenting relevant, some men who do similar crimes have all kinds of well paid public jobs

Why do men commit serious crimes wrt to child imagery, well I can’t think of much to say that isn’t highly negative

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 02/08/2024 17:51

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:43

How very droll. 🙄

Oh Huw! How many aliases do you have going on this thread?

And as for this: “I would like to know why he did what he did, to gain some understanding of how society can prevent something like this happening again.”

That’s not on society. That’s on us as individuals to have a moral compass and do the right thing. Take responsibility for our actions. He’s smart enough to do that. He chose not to. But humans consistently make shitty choices and actions have consequences. Huw’s living his. He is an intelligent man. He knew right from wrong. His dick did not. I have no sympathy. There are plenty of decent newsreaders who are excellent at their job and don’t ogle Cat A photos… and the fucking rest which is a ticker tape parade of abusive shit.

noworklifebalance · 02/08/2024 17:58

I would like to know why he did what he did, to gain some understanding of how society can prevent something like this happening again. But you continue to feign lack of interest (while posting on a thread about HE!!!) and let these perverts continue to do their evil worst, because we never learned any lessons from those who went before

Really? By lamenting that he was a wonderful presenter?
If you really were interested you will look beyond his job and realise that these types of people can be found in all facets of society.

Posters have been dealing in facts. He did not need a jury of peers to convict him - he pleaded guilty to the charges.
No-one has said added any fictional elements to his crimes.

The biggest bone of contention seems to be is whether he was a decent presenter or not. And again, that is not relevant.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:59

Do you know what, the ignorance here is just crass.

Doubleender · 02/08/2024 18:26

Ignorance?

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 18:29

Doubleender · 02/08/2024 18:26

Ignorance?

Yes, ignorance. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together should see that, in cases like this, there should be lessons learned. It really isn't a difficult concept.

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 18:31

EasternStandard · 02/08/2024 17:38

I don’t think category A crime is nuanced

I don’t find him worth more interest but you do you

Nobody’s said Category A offences are nuanced. We’re talking about the human condition and its complexity. As a pp said, God help us all if some of you ever get called on to do jury duty, you’re apparently incapable of even understanding or following a thread on an internet forum.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 18:35

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 18:31

Nobody’s said Category A offences are nuanced. We’re talking about the human condition and its complexity. As a pp said, God help us all if some of you ever get called on to do jury duty, you’re apparently incapable of even understanding or following a thread on an internet forum.

Well said!

Aquarius1234 · 02/08/2024 18:55

I think many people on here think HE did much more than he did.
A lovely lifestyle I would assume. Which in turns makes people think they can do what the hell they like behind the scenes.

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Doubleender · 02/08/2024 18:59

Perhaps the power made him feel he was invincible? Regardless, there's vices that come with riches but this certainly isn't a normal one.

DonutHole · 02/08/2024 19:07

Aquarius1234 · 02/08/2024 18:55

I think many people on here think HE did much more than he did.
A lovely lifestyle I would assume. Which in turns makes people think they can do what the hell they like behind the scenes.

Sorry, are you accusing people presenting their thoughts and assumptions as fact? If so, that's a bit rich, coming from you OP.