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Huw Edwards

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Aquarius1234 · 31/07/2024 09:50

To think he shouldn't have been paid in full while off long term. As its more like being self employed.
But mainly cos it was 475k upwards of our TV licence money!
Another example is when a famous radio presenter s decide to go off for an extended break to film another show or something. Surely they don't get normal pay when they have extra weeks off not on air!!

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Molly499 · 02/08/2024 13:49

DysonSphere · 02/08/2024 13:28

My understanding is that young men under 18 cannot legally share photos of themselves for sexual purposes. So technically it was illegal for him to solicit photos from the 17 year old.

I don't know why nothing was actually done about that.

Wow, I’m amazed that nobody has picked this up and it looks like your are correct.

In the UK the age of consent for sexual intercourse is 16. However, it is an offence to make, distribute, possess or show any indecent images of anyone aged under 18, even if the content was created with the consent of that young person. The law is contained in Section 1 Protection of Children Act 1978.

Aquarius1234 · 02/08/2024 13:56

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 07:51

I don’t see how the BBC can legitimately recoup any money. They could have terminated his employment any time after November and they didn’t, presumably because it could have left them open to being sued for wrongful dismissal. They made the decision to keep him on the payroll.

Yea they can't probably without loads of effort.
He was just answering the questions.
Can't believe how casual the BBC director was about it. Basically he wasn't on air so we just paid him till he finally finally!! Resigned..

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cathyandclaire · 02/08/2024 13:57

I think the age and image sharing was The Sun's angle at the time- I think the boy refusing to give evidence was a factor- although I know other young people who've shared images with a consensual under 18 year old partner have ended up on the sex offenders register, so the ' no criminality' assertion seems strange.

noworklifebalance · 02/08/2024 13:59

young men under 18

children/boys not men

Aquarius1234 · 02/08/2024 14:05

EsmaCannonball · 02/08/2024 09:16

The point about him announcing the death of the queen isn't about being a sycophantic royal-worshipper, it's about Huw Edwards being chosen by the BBC to be the face and voice of national events. Events have happened over the last few years that have entered the national archive - the 2012 Olympic opening and closing ceremonies, the coronation, royal weddings and funerals - events that are going to be part of UK history, and this skeevy, nasty creep is all over them. You'd like to think that if he had the whiff of scandal about him, if anyone at the BBC knew about his habit of contacting young fans online or coming on to young male staffers, then they might have anticipated some kind of fallout one day.

There was probably complaints about that ten years ago but the BBC hate getting rid of or changing to another presenter instead. Bizzare they love to keep to the same well known name for as long as possible even with scandal or various complaints.

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BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 14:09

Aquarius1234 · 02/08/2024 14:05

There was probably complaints about that ten years ago but the BBC hate getting rid of or changing to another presenter instead. Bizzare they love to keep to the same well known name for as long as possible even with scandal or various complaints.

That’s pure conjecture on your part. The amount of fiction on this thread is mind blowing. Isn’t it bad enough without making stuff up?

Aquarius1234 · 02/08/2024 14:13

I wonder how the Queen would have felt knowing her death was going to be announced by someone that invited young men into his hotel room the night before Prince philips funeral. Forgetting the rest .

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Aquarius1234 · 02/08/2024 14:14

It's all true no doubt.

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BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 14:18

Aquarius1234 · 02/08/2024 14:14

It's all true no doubt.

What’s all true? The stuff you’ve just made up?

Aquarius1234 · 02/08/2024 14:20

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 14:18

What’s all true? The stuff you’ve just made up?

From my extension watching the BBC the last 30 years. How they deal the high profile presenters.

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DysonSphere · 02/08/2024 15:35

noworklifebalance · 02/08/2024 13:59

young men under 18

children/boys not men

Yes! Thank for the correction, bit of lazy typingon my part

DysonSphere · 02/08/2024 15:42

Molly499 · 02/08/2024 13:49

Wow, I’m amazed that nobody has picked this up and it looks like your are correct.

In the UK the age of consent for sexual intercourse is 16. However, it is an offence to make, distribute, possess or show any indecent images of anyone aged under 18, even if the content was created with the consent of that young person. The law is contained in Section 1 Protection of Children Act 1978.

On one thread that was zapped (because he hadn't admitted anything at that point) that point was made and it was a revelation to me as well! I don't think many realise this is the law and just think if sixteen years old's can have physical sex, they can also consent to the whole hog so to speak, sending provocative selfies etc.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 15:48

Janiie · 02/08/2024 08:30

Omg he didn't let 'the based side take over' it was who he was. Can we stop with this mysterious 'based side' crap. He has pleaded guilty to having child sex offence images. Wtf is 'based' about that? 'Fatal flaw' 🙄

Reading the news is not highly skilled. He should not have been paid his ridiculous salary for reading an autocue. Once again the bbc have cocked up massively.

You do it then.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 15:52

noworklifebalance · 02/08/2024 09:13

I have already said I am aware that it is a huge historical event - after 90yrs the death of an extremely rich woman from an extremely wealthy family who has never had to cook, clean, shop, barely needs to dress herself, has staff to raise her children, has the access to the best medical care, travels in private cars/trains/planes, makes small talk at dinners, cuts ribbons, occasionally waves from a balcony and occasionally gives a speech (written by someone else).

It’s not lacking emotional intelligence to call out that in modern times the RF add very little to our society and seeming have very poor judgement in running their own lives with any decency.

It’s certainly lacking in intelligence to wail “but he announced the Queen’s death to the nation”. So fucking what if he did.

(It was probably on twitter first anyway)

What a narrow-minded point of view.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 15:53

EasternStandard · 02/08/2024 10:37

I know people really will excuse category A criminality which is highest level because he could read an autocue with a sombre expression and good accent

What madness am I even reading

WTF has done that? Literally fucking nobody!!!

Janiie · 02/08/2024 15:59

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 15:48

You do it then.

Try to contribute like a grown up. I'm not employed by the bbc, plenty are and reading an autocue or the much applauded discussing the Queen’s death does not seem to be the stuff of rocket science.

As an aside I can't believe he was only 62. He looked a decade older. That's what a life of deceit and depravity do to you i presume. I wonder why he didn't get his bags done he seemed such a vein man going by the GQ thing.

Janiie · 02/08/2024 16:00

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 15:53

WTF has done that? Literally fucking nobody!!!

Oh calm down and rtft.

EasternStandard · 02/08/2024 16:02

Janiie · 02/08/2024 16:00

Oh calm down and rtft.

Seconded to that pp

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 16:41

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 15:53

WTF has done that? Literally fucking nobody!!!

Exactly. Nobody has done that but nothing except full on lynch mob is acceptable to some people.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 16:57

EsmaCannonball · 02/08/2024 09:16

The point about him announcing the death of the queen isn't about being a sycophantic royal-worshipper, it's about Huw Edwards being chosen by the BBC to be the face and voice of national events. Events have happened over the last few years that have entered the national archive - the 2012 Olympic opening and closing ceremonies, the coronation, royal weddings and funerals - events that are going to be part of UK history, and this skeevy, nasty creep is all over them. You'd like to think that if he had the whiff of scandal about him, if anyone at the BBC knew about his habit of contacting young fans online or coming on to young male staffers, then they might have anticipated some kind of fallout one day.

That's the angle I've been looking at it from, but didn't word it as succinctly as you. He's tainted all of those occasions. Any time footage is replayed, either his mug is all over it, or they're going to have to heavily edit it.

Re the 17 year old - I don't know if the BBC were still investigating that when he resigned? Something must have prompted the resignation. I'm pretty sure if someone in my organisation was accused of this behaviour, they would be sacked for bringing it into disrepute. In fact people have been sacked for less.

noworklifebalance · 02/08/2024 16:57

I think it was more to do with pathetic statements such as:
“It's such a shame and so disappointing that such a skilled presenter - and he was good! - would let this base side of himself take over and destroy everything that was positive in his life.“

His skill as a presenter is totally irrelevant.

Such a shame and so disappointing - are phrases you would say to someone cheated on an exam and let themselves down not someone who had videos of child rape.

His base side suggests that he was a good person that had a flawed side to his personality. Again, this minimises the true impact of his crimes on the children in the videos.

EasternStandard · 02/08/2024 17:00

noworklifebalance · 02/08/2024 16:57

I think it was more to do with pathetic statements such as:
“It's such a shame and so disappointing that such a skilled presenter - and he was good! - would let this base side of himself take over and destroy everything that was positive in his life.“

His skill as a presenter is totally irrelevant.

Such a shame and so disappointing - are phrases you would say to someone cheated on an exam and let themselves down not someone who had videos of child rape.

His base side suggests that he was a good person that had a flawed side to his personality. Again, this minimises the true impact of his crimes on the children in the videos.

Yes this, well said

Bromptotoo · 02/08/2024 17:02

He was a skilled presenter who was effing good at his job.

I don't think his conviction and disgrace change that when we look back.

Janiie · 02/08/2024 17:06

Bromptotoo · 02/08/2024 17:02

He was a skilled presenter who was effing good at his job.

I don't think his conviction and disgrace change that when we look back.

His conviction does indeed change that in that it makes his fabulous presenting skills utterly irrelevant.

As a pp said all offenders manage to have lovely home lives and spiffing jobs but when we find out what they really are it negates it all. Well it should except for with his most ardent cheerleaders on here.

Runnerinthenight · 02/08/2024 17:08

Janiie · 02/08/2024 16:00

Oh calm down and rtft.

I have read the full thread and I am perfectly calm. Some of you are foaming at the mouths trying to outdo yourselves with condemnation. You remind me of the mobs in the French revolution. Insults won't work on me. I don't care.

You keep bleating on about how easy a job newsreading is. Ever think why these people are paid such vast salaries? Are you familiar with the concept of supply and demand?

Someone upthread (think it might have been you) said that a pervert is all he is. No, it's not. Nobody is all one thing. He's got through 62 years successfully until now, so he must have had other things going for him. He still has those qualities whatever they are/were. The perverted side of him that willingly accepted images of child sexual abuse is one part of him. Anyone that thinks otherwise has a very limited understanding of people.

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