‘Children’ and ‘adults’ in Southport massacre

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All the papers are reporting that the Southport victims are ‘children’ who
were protected by ‘adults’.

The Southport victims are little girls who were protected by two women, now fighting for their lives.

No one needs to report what sex the killer is.

Male violence against women is a national emergency, say the police.

AIBU to think misgendering a massacre is the lowest of the low?

This thread is abhorrent.

I think it's a case of the media or knowing enough details to be more specific.

The last report I read said that it hadn't been officially confirmed who the adults were, it was just local knowledge. Same with the children. We don't know who the children in hospital are.

The live feed on the bbc news app has the families of the girls referring to them as girls / she. It’s there. And probably elsewhere but definitely there

Has a parent of every child spoken to the media? I find that surprising.

The class was advertised as being for girls. It was an murderous attack on girls. Reporting it as an attack on 'children' hides the misogyny.

Who was misgendered??

https://debuk.wordpress.com/2024/07/30/a-modest-proposal/

Here is a language analysis of the reports which gives possible reasons for obfuscating the language used.

They can still report it as VAWG.

I’m using misgendering in a different way to how TRAs employ it but the point remains that de-sexing or unsexing a person usually benefits someone else. TRAs use it to benefit men, who are the overall winners in this game.

Funny, that.

In the Southport case calling the dead girls ‘children’ and their lady rescuers ‘adults’ allows us to think that violence is a human vice, not a mostly male fault with a substantial target of female victims. Which isn’t true.

It allows us to think that some men don’t kill females cos they are female, which isn’t true.

We can’t fix this till we tell the truth.

Men + women = adults

What would you prefer op??

Seriously, this place is such a let down at times. Where is your respect??

The children's families are grieving....again, men women, boys and girls.....

Weirdo..... nobody is 'benefitting' from this

And you are making yourself look stupid

Is it not enough for you that children have been stabbed to death?

The class was advertised as being for girls.

Was it?

It's still not misgendering. No matter how much you try to make the cap fit.

I agree with you OP, How can VAWG be tackled if we can’t discuss it, and name it?

These terrible ‘solitary’ incidents are happening far to often

Poor babies 😢

Today is not the day to be getting on a soapbox. Have a bit of empathy for parents who have an empty bed at home, some forever

You can make this political another day, but not today

To be honest, I think it was probably some crazed, troubled lad who for whatever reason targeted that dance school, had the instructors been male and the kids also boys I think they'd have sadly had the same outcome.

Oh ffs, 3 children died, does it matter if they were girls or boys?

But if it was an attack on any other group that information would be seen as important. If Jewish people or gay men or black people had been targeted by a man on a rampage then the identity of the victims would be seen as salient. The media wouldn't just report it as a group of 'people' being attacked, they would be more specific. This man sought out young girls to kill. Most stranger murders of women and girls aren't carried out by someone looking for a 'person' to kill, they are carried out by someone hunting for a female.

BBC news says 3 girls killed in knife attack, sky news says the two adults are locally rumoured to be a female and male.

The children have been named and photos released on all news sites

There were boys and girls there, and men stabbed

Every news outlet is also clear a17yo BOY (not youth) was arrested.

They had to be vague to allow time for the families of the victims to be contacted before news was in the public sphere. Men did rush to help and at least one was injured. This isn't about sex, it's about private tragedies for the families involved, great sadness for the wider community, life changing experience for the emergency services and first responders who may need extensive help, and yes a family forever changed because their loved one committed these atrocities, the details still to be revealed.

The time will come for discussions. Seeing as though this only happened yesterday, for now please respect the fact that news agencies are being careful in their reporting to protect the families involved.

Maybe there were boys at the dance class? My 8 year old son is a massive Swiftie and would have loved it. Stop presuming it's only girls who like dance, yoga and Taylor Swift (look who's being misogynistic now)

Even the ones still in hospital?