Manchester Airport Incident

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After seeing the new footage, I believe the officers actions were understandable.

In a perfect world, the officer would have retained his composure and arrested the offender professionally. Nonetheless, in this case he was in a fight and can be forgiven for his adrenaline levels, IMHO.

Everyone saying the policeman lost control.
I think he was quite self controlled.
At this point he’s running on adrenaline and you can’t just turn it off.
He couldn’t bend over the guy because he risked having his gun taken.
If these guys had got hold of an armed officers gun the officer would be in more trouble not less.
Personally I think the officer should be commended for not shooting the man.
I hope he’s not charged.

@BurnerName1

You are spot on!

Another element of this is the two suspects resisted arrest so violently that it would not be unreasonable to think they were trying to escape detection for committing a crime far more serious than a fracas in a café at an airport. Everything the officers did should be taken in the context that these two offenders acted like they were dangerous enough criminals to grab the officers' weapons and use them on the officers or the public. Armed officers at airports are almost completely focused to think about potential terrorist incidents.

When people say things such as 'he kicked the bloke on the bench to the floor,' well, given we've just seen this man repeatedly punch the officer in the head, would you trust him not to go for your weapon if you cuffed him in a more 'civilised' manner? These officers have to think of the worst-case scenario in split-second conditions.

One where people don’t fuck about in airports and don’t attack the people paid to defend us.

100% this!

They should have been shot and would it have been totally justified.

There is no way that it can be acceptable to violently attack an armed officer. If they are incapacitated while armed that is an absolutely lethal situation for innocent members of the public.

The first thug should have been shot immediately to end the danger to everyone else.

Even with the law as it currently is, the level of violence meted out by the thugs was absolutely of a level that the officers could genuinely fear for their lives and would be justified in using lethal force.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Also, the female officer in the first video seems to be suffering the effects of PAVA being sprayed.

Can't imagine having that in the air will improve anyone's reasoning.

I bet there's a heck of a lot more to come out about this. Not least the third party who had the altercation with the mother. How come he hasn't been found by the Daily Mail?

Not sure anyone deserves to be shot

Yeah, they do.

Mussolini?

The lawless violence against the police officers is appalling - I found that footage hard to watch. Those hooligans should be locked up, frankly. We need to respect those who try to keep us all safe - violence against the police is rightly treated seriously by the courts.

However, the police officers should not have meted out violence in return. It is understandable - they were provoked hugely, and it must have been really difficult to quell the aggression needed to deal with such violence.

But it's not a reason for their violence towards the offenders.

Maybe they need more training & practice in dealing with violence, and coping with damping down the attack instinct after subduing such violent trash?

But I hope the police officers are treated relatively leniently in the light of the violence they had to deal with.

They are British citizens.

Was he at the airport as well? I thought he was long gone.

Not RTFT but who thinks it’s a good idea to attack the police who are on duty at an airport where security is paramount? From what I can glean the bloke was tasered to the floor (quite correctly). He then went to get up and carry on attacking. At this stage the officer was within his rights to use any means possible to ensure the suspect was taken out. What was he meant to do? Let him get up and who knows what he could have been armed with. A suicide belt? Hope the officer is not prosecuted.

Are you a police officer that has been repeatedly punched???

Until you are, you know nothing.

Yeah, was about to say, what's mussolini got to do with this ?

Does that mean I can't comment on a bad meal in a restaurant as I'm not a chef?

I feel that stamping on the man's head was too much, but the police officer had just been punched in the head 9 times. He must have been in fight or flight mode by that point and may have suffered concussion.
Which law abiding citizen goes around starting fights with the police? I have little sympathy for them.

While I'm in no way condone police brutality, my reaction is like - erm, what these people expect would happened when they started fighting with armed police officers? I think they should consider themselves lucky they are not in the US.

As many on here, bloody tired of violent arrogant thugs crying and saying how traumatized they are once shit hits the fan and their actions get a response.

I Think it’s difficult to understand the use of force unless you fully understand the context.

police officers with weapons must have their hands on the weapon at all times. That’s why the officer could not cuff him once he was down on the floor. He had to wait for another officer to come over to do this.

The officers also had been cautious with the use of force earlier and this lead to the men getting up and assaulting the officers. So they knew they had to use more force to ensure the man remained on the floor and to ensure the officers safety. In most countries the men would have been shot, they are very lucky they were detained by British police.

It must be so hard being an officer at the moment with the media whipping up a frenzy at every moment. Use to little force and risk serious injury (as what happened) or too much in the public’s eyes then you risk people turning on you, losing your job etc.

You mean something happened before the kicking and the men involved are not little angels?

Oh I am surprised.

They need to act like it then.

@SweetFemaleAttitude

I was just wondering if that was the reason the Officer went ott . I'm not saying it was right .

This cannot be a serious post?