Manchester Airport Incident

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After seeing the new footage, I believe the officers actions were understandable.

This is maybe what I’ve seen, the stamp looks aimed at the hand or the floor, it doesn’t look like contact with the head is made.

That doesn’t make the kick in the face okay, but it does make a difference to me.

They need more punishment than a travel ban- they weren’t even passengers- they were at the airport to pick up their mother. They should be given a prison sentence and made to pay compensation to the officers they injured. If they are migrants they should be deported on release back to their country of nationality- although I suspect they are British citizens.

My thoughts entirely.

No. There is still no excuse to stamp on a man's head when he is already down. I understand that tensions were high, and surprise, the blokes,were arseholes, but that doesn't excuse the over action by the policeman.

Oh if only that had been the outcome in this case.

Totally agree. Great post.

I wonder how this would have played out if the fracas had been in departures at Qatar airport.

I think the people on here supporting the police officers actions, somehow believe that the people who disagree with them, are in support of the perpetrators.

This is not true.

I wholeheartedly think the behaviour of the person was abhorrent, thuggish, brutal and disgusting, whilst at the same time believing that the police officers actions we also abhorrent, thuggish, brutal and disgusting.

I hope the perps get a custodial sentence and I also hope the police officer faces consequences for basically losing his shit whilst being responsible for acting within the law.

Totally irrelevant. It never happened.

@IMustDoMoreExercise Still doesn't make it right. Wearing a uniform doesn't mean you can use excessive force. That reaction was pure anger.

Being a Police officer doesn't mean you're a good person. Police officers are human, humans can be arseholes. That particular officer is a violent arsehole on a power trip.

The policeman was absolutely correct to immobilise a violent offender who had committed horrible assaults putting both the public and police at risk.

I believe the hand you’re referring to is the mother’s hand. She doesn’t flinch or move it as the officer’s foot hits the ground.

When you are a police officer and have been punched repeatedly like that then you are entitled to comment.

Until then, you know nothing.

They would never behave like this in any of the gulf states as the outcome would have been either they would have been immediately shot or they would have been thrown in prison immediately and received long sentences. There is absolutely no messing about allowed. Anyone who knows the region knows that it’s laughable to think they’d even dare speak to a police officer disrespectfully never mind physically attack

@Butwhybecause

Nope... that doesn't cover this scenario

Even criminals deserve to be treated humanely. There are rules for a reason, and this police officer chose to ignore one of the most basic and fundamental things he had been taught by going for someone’s head when they were already on the floor. It could have been fatal.

Even in a stressful situation and in the heat of the moment, officers should be well trained enough that they instinctively abide by the basics.

Ah okay, possibly not. I’m still not sure he makes contact with the head though. But there may be other footage that shows differently.

I think the body cams will be revealing.

@IMustDoMoreExercise I have been punched repeatedly. Pretty sure if I'd stamped on my ex's head I would have been arrested.

You can defend that officer all you want, still doesn't make it right. Your attitude is appalling, I'm guessing you're a police officer or related to one? Amazing how a badge boosts the ego and brings out the worst in people

I think they were lucky to do it in the U.K. not in a country where the result for their violence would be fatal

Not solicitor, cyst and protests but shot

Whilst I agree that officers need to be trained appropriately, police officers also deserve to be treated humanely and this hasn’t happened in this case at all.

However I do agree about the stamp too - that is why I keep saying I’d like definite clarification on the head because it doesn’t look like contact was made, or even attempted to be made.
A kick in the face will break bones but is unlikely to kill. A stamp on the head is likely to be lethal.

I think you’ve made excellent points here @EsmaCannonball, especially about the motives for the original video being put up. I distrust the motives of that lawyer you referenced too. I’d actually watched a clip of an interview he gave before I even saw the video of the incident and my gut feeling was there’s something awry with this one.

In addition to the points you made about the officer, for all we know this person may have already been suffering from past trauma that hadn’t been properly managed or treated too. I think there could well be more to this than meets the eye.

so the officer has been attacked, repeatedly punched in the back of the head, then yanked back in a choke hold when his assailant is tasered. he falls with him, rolls back to his feet, stands and sees him move, so kicks him.

Do i think the kick was justified? No, do i understand why he did it? Yup.

The police are not the only ones that are attacked during the course of their working day, they probably have better training than most of us and most police manage to not stamp on someones head regardless of what happened previously

So now you want them dead? What kind of barbaric society do you want to live in?