Greater Manchester Police brutality

[Gummybear23]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68502539.amp
There are many cases.
Chris Kaba ?
Where have you been??

@Gummybear23

677,261 people arrested in England and Wales in 2022/23
23 deaths in or following police custody

23/677261 chance of dying in police custody

I guess you must be outraged at bus drivers killing people too?

Outaraged by innocents murdered,yes.
Whether it is one or 100,000.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68502539.amp

What do you mean why the need?

Because that's a pretty big part of what defines it as either excessive or reasonable

Really?

What do you think is the biggest part in what's reasonable here? Do you think it's the fact that a violent criminal was trying to seriously injure/possibly kill officers in an airport where there's guns, or your own view of what is proportional?

If you think it's the latter then please feel free to enlighten us all as to how you've reacted when someone has attempted to inflict a serious amount of violence on you, and your extensive knowledge of how human beings react in those situations.

Police saying the pair - who are believed to have been part of the Tommy Robinson protest - had been taken into custody on suspicion of committing grievous bodily harm (GBH).
Four people were arrested outside a pub in Whitehall on suspicion of assault on emergency workers. Four Met officers were assaulted.
One man was also held on suspicion of criminal damage and a racially aggravated public order offence after allegedly snapping a Palestinian flag and making a racially abusive remark, while another was arrested on suspicion of assaulting an emergency worker after a police officer was kicked, the force said.

Thugs are gonna thug regardless of what "community" they belong to.

But that's simply not true.

If you were outraged about innocents being murdered you wouldn't be questioning the police's actions when confronted with a violent attacker who could have easily murdered one of those police officers had they landed on their heads after he punched them.

You're also doing a disservice to the hundreds of innocents killed each year by thugs like the one in the video ,by undermining the people paid to protect us for no good reason.

I do not undermine public servants.
But I will question when unreasonable force or there is abuse of power.
Public servants should be held accountable.
If we are not allowed to question what we see as bad pratice we would all be at risk.

Following on I am not doing victims of crime a disservice.
They should get justice from our judicial system.
I do not see as acceptable that we can beat up criminals because they deserve it.

We have a judicial system in this country who will administer the appropriate punishment.

No we wouldn’t all be at risk, because we don’t attack police officers who are doing their jobs. Anyone who physically attacks an armed police officer in an airport is just asking for whatever comes their way.

'Asking for whatever comes there way'

Is not acceptable.

Noone should be an armed police officer with that form of mentality.
Of course those committing crime should be held accountable.

The judicial system is the place for this not the bottom of an officer's boot.

The judicial system won’t be much use if a weapon had been taken and fired by someone prepared to grapple with armed officers though would it.

Do you believe the judicial system (that you clearly have great faith in) delivers justice for women?

The judicial system was not there, those officers were on their own, fighting for their lives, they were all injured. I thank them for their service.

I think it’s easy to muse from the safety of mn posts rather than know what it’s like to face the heavy violence officers had just faced

Really? How many people do you think would have heard of Geoege Floyd if it had not been a white cop who killed him.?

The police undermine themselves every time they act unlawfully.

I think the now released CCTV video of proceeding events provides a lot of context for what happened.

I don't believe what the officer did at that point was necessary and could have been handled better. But it is very easy to say that as someone watching all the videos post events. The officer is still just human dealing with what was now clearly a very volatile situation.

His actions were far from ideal but I don't think they were racist.

So I'll start by saying that the officer had lost control of his emotions and his reaction was disgusting and should be duly punished ....... however! Have we all seen the footage of what transpired before the clip we all saw of him kicking the guy on the floor? The situation was totally out of control , the two guys went from zero to 100 instantly , the level of their aggression was appalling. Some of you explain to me how you control a situation like that without physical force ? I will reiterate that I think the officers actions were totally wrong but can we at least acknowledge that the situation leading up to the assault by him was explosive and happened in a matter of seconds. Police officers do an incredibly difficult job one that I wouldn't want to do and whilst the officer acted abhorrently shall we look at the behaviour of the two men who were the catalyst for the whole episode ?

No it does not and that needs to be challenged.

Equally it does not mean that law enforcers can act unlawfully because they feel the judicial system won't deliver the correct punishment.

Fair point.

Yes how very horrid for the police to be undermining themselves when faced with a brutal assault. Please will someone book them onto the undermining course stat.

It is a police protocol. I listened to a police interview today and the officer said that if a suspect is resisting to put their arms behind their back (like in the video - the guy just lays there with arms by his side and doesn’t put them behind his back) this, as per protocol, threatens a police officer as the suspect can easily reach for the officer’s gun.

You can only question if it is acceptable use of power if you have familiarised yourself with protocols and, most importantly, why these protocols exist.

another protocol is to shoot anyone on the spot if your fellow police officer’s weapon has been taken by non authorised personnel. And yes, these protocols keep us all safe. Questioning these protocols makes us all vulnerable.

I wouldn’t even say that the officer acted abhorrently, given the context of the savage attacks on him and his colleagues which preceded his response. It all happened so fast.

Starting pay £28k?

Working nights and weekends?

Chance of getting your head kicked in and if you strike back, a whole Internet of armchair experts dissect your every move, second by second in slo-mo and pass judgement?

Chance of going to prison?

It's a no from me.