Greater Manchester Police brutality

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

Having seen the extended footage which provides the context, the scumbags deserve it and I still support the police. It’s an airport and they could have ulterior motives, asides from violently assaulting police.

Quite. You would have thought that people who have just got off an international flight and gone through relevant security would be much less likely to be in possession of explosives or weapons than the average person on the street.

I just heard Burnham talking about seeing the footage so why do all those in possession of it crop so much

@rosiers not sure ‘motivated by terrorism’ could be screened for. You’re one of the excuse makers, and part of the problem as far as I’m concerned.

I agree - people are talking about the fear that they could have grabbed the guns, and now they could be motivated by explosives or terrorism.

In that case - why the quick approach and grabbing someone - without knowing who else was involved.

People are talking about reflex actions - you are in a queue and you see 3 people suddenly grab your brother. You might not even recognise they are police, let alone armed police. You just see your brother being grabbed. In this case, he reacted by fighting quite viciously.

With hindsight - I wonder if the police would have approached it differently.

I also wonder if - within the time it took for it to kick off - if they even realised it was armed police who were trying to arrest him.

In which cultures ?

This is all a bit armchair trainee police officer

Can you try to imagine what it’s like to face such violence

I'm 100% with the police. Attacking armed police officers in an airport is extremely serious and they are lucky they were not shot.

100% no.
The police have no right to kick in someone's head .

The officers should be trained to deesulate a situation and take control.

Not get angry and kick someone in the head.
They lads lashed out and needed to be tasered.
Detained.
There are people with mental health issues to attack police officers in a very aggressive way.
However they don't deserve to be beaten to death. Or shot dead.

Extended video doesn't change my position that the officer went beyond what was reasonable and lawful and should be charged with a criminal offence.

Might provide a whole lot of mitigation as to what punishment he should face, but it doesn't change the fact that he assaulted the man.

@eggplant16 whatever one the person who broke this officers nose belongs to, as far as the footage goes. hth

If footage like this is to be released it should be released in its entirety from the start or not released at all.

Looking at the extended footage, it looks as though both sides acted badly.🤷‍♀️

With hindsight - I wonder if the police would have approached it differently.

Possibly. To be fair I don't think they expected that outcome, regardless. Whether through lack of information,or training or something else. It's possible that the initial approach should be reviewed as well, for the police officers' sake and safety.

The lack of sound doesn't help either to get a clearer picture.

what about personal responsibility …. If you’re going to fight with armed police at an airport you’ve got to deal with the consequences.

A shrug for this? Looks brutal to me just for doing a job

Do you think in the time it happened that they realised they were attacking police officers, let alone armed police officers?

It seemed to happen very quickly. From their perspective, they are standing in a queue when 4 people turn up, put you in a headlock - and then the fight starts.

Do you think it's possible they didn't realise they were police, let alone armed police?

We haven't got any audio - and the body cams will show any conversation that happened

I read somewhere that firearms officers are trained to use their feet so they can keep hold of their firearm with their hands. No idea if that's true but it would make sense.

Agree

Do you think it's possible they didn't realise they were police, let alone armed police?

No

Im glad the police were tough as hopefully it sends a clear message to people who can’t behave properly they are at risk of swift retaliation. This isn’t a case of the police acting first, this is the case of a response to violence against armed officers in an airport, people seriously need some perspective.

Things are so bad that people are actually starting to see that this escalation is becoming inevitable.

It does change perspective/circumstances slightly though, as it wasn't clear in the beginning how quickly after the assault on the police it happened.

By saying " in some cultures it is acceptable to break a woman's nose" We are fueling an anti Muslim narrative. I'm not Muslim but I'm sick of reading these lazy stereotypes.

😂fucking hell

Why not?

It happened very quickly.