Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Greater Manchester Police brutality

981 replies

Gummybear23 · 24/07/2024 22:22

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

Manchester airport: officer removed from frontline duty after arrest video goes viral

Armed police officer seen kicking suspect in footage Greater Manchester police called ‘truly shocking’

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

OP posts:
Thread gallery
12
Usercyzabc · 28/07/2024 09:32

eggplant16 · 28/07/2024 09:28

By saying " in some cultures it is acceptable to break a woman's nose" We are fueling an anti Muslim narrative. I'm not Muslim but I'm sick of reading these lazy stereotypes.

Who’s we? And why do you assume the PP meant it’s Muslims who condone violence against women? You mentioned religion not the PP

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/07/2024 09:32

cakeorwine · 28/07/2024 09:25

Do you think in the time it happened that they realised they were attacking police officers, let alone armed police officers?

It seemed to happen very quickly. From their perspective, they are standing in a queue when 4 people turn up, put you in a headlock - and then the fight starts.

Do you think it's possible they didn't realise they were police, let alone armed police?

We haven't got any audio - and the body cams will show any conversation that happened

Now you mention it, no, they just didn’t realise it was the police they assaulted.

Easy mistake to make.

Hmm
greengreyblue · 28/07/2024 09:34

The men turn to see the police before they start fighting . They knew who they were. The man in grey starts it, he gets tasered and that’s why he is seen sitting on a chair. The man in blue then jumps on officers back( he has already broken the woman officer’s nose) and starts attacking. He is fought off, and when on floor is tasered and kicked and stamped on. I still think the stamping is vile but can see the threat they were under. Not sure if they have guns, why they didn’t hold them at gunpoint instead. Anyone know?

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 28/07/2024 09:34

*Why not?

It happened very quickly.*

The thug in the blue hoodie went back and forth attacking several police officers. Not a chance that he didn't see their uniforms.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/07/2024 09:37

I mean, who hasn’t broken someone’s nose and kicked the shit out of someone only to realise it was a police officer they hit?

If only there was a way to distinguish the police, I don’t know, special clothing or anything.

Vivi0 · 28/07/2024 09:37

cakeorwine · 28/07/2024 09:25

Do you think in the time it happened that they realised they were attacking police officers, let alone armed police officers?

It seemed to happen very quickly. From their perspective, they are standing in a queue when 4 people turn up, put you in a headlock - and then the fight starts.

Do you think it's possible they didn't realise they were police, let alone armed police?

We haven't got any audio - and the body cams will show any conversation that happened

Do you think in the time it happened that they realised they were attacking police officers, let alone armed police officers?

He probably didn’t even realise it was woman’s nose he broke. He punched her in the face so quickly, it would have been impossible for him to tell.

Poor lad, blinded by upset for his poor brother. The police should just leave people alone, instead of tricking them into police assault situations.

MauveCrow · 28/07/2024 09:37

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 28/07/2024 09:12

while not knowing if they are armed, have explosives, or are motivated by terrorism at a major airport.

If you have those fears and concerns then that's not how you approach the suspect(s).

The "suspects" approached the police and attacked them FFS.

Jesus there is some bat shit criminal apologists on here today.

rosiers · 28/07/2024 09:38

@eggplant16 there have been various suspiciously lazy comments relating to the "community" of these men throughout this thread, yet no one has managed to explain what they mean (or really mean). So far we have had "whatever community they belong to" and "the group of people protesting outside Rochdale police station" 😂

EasternStandard · 28/07/2024 09:38

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/07/2024 09:37

I mean, who hasn’t broken someone’s nose and kicked the shit out of someone only to realise it was a police officer they hit?

If only there was a way to distinguish the police, I don’t know, special clothing or anything.

It’s a bizarre line

I think people look at everything bar the actual violence from the men

Zebedee999 · 28/07/2024 09:38

The full video shows the reality. Violent thugs resisting arrest. The police then use violence to subdue them. One copper who had been attacked carries on a little longer than was ideal, but under the circumstances no issue in my view.

In what other job do you expect to be violently assaulted, then get pilloried when your actions are dissected in detail later?

eggplant16 · 28/07/2024 09:39

Usercyzabc · 28/07/2024 09:32

Who’s we? And why do you assume the PP meant it’s Muslims who condone violence against women? You mentioned religion not the PP

OK I await clarification.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 28/07/2024 09:40

There definitely seems to be an awful lot more to this - police are appealing for information on this and 2 earlier incidents. www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2024/july/gmp-opens-public-portal-in-appeal-for-further-information-about-events-leading-up-to-footage-filmed-in-manchester-airport-terminal-two/

eggplant16 · 28/07/2024 09:40

Zebedee999 · 28/07/2024 09:38

The full video shows the reality. Violent thugs resisting arrest. The police then use violence to subdue them. One copper who had been attacked carries on a little longer than was ideal, but under the circumstances no issue in my view.

In what other job do you expect to be violently assaulted, then get pilloried when your actions are dissected in detail later?

They are supposed to be professionals. I assume they have had years and years of training.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 28/07/2024 09:40

Zebedee999 · 28/07/2024 09:38

The full video shows the reality. Violent thugs resisting arrest. The police then use violence to subdue them. One copper who had been attacked carries on a little longer than was ideal, but under the circumstances no issue in my view.

In what other job do you expect to be violently assaulted, then get pilloried when your actions are dissected in detail later?

A lot of public service jobs. Bus drivers, NHS, teaching etc. All, also regularly assaulted on the job.

Zebedee999 · 28/07/2024 09:41

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 28/07/2024 09:40

A lot of public service jobs. Bus drivers, NHS, teaching etc. All, also regularly assaulted on the job.

Yes and if they need to defend themselves then they have my full support.

EsmaCannonball · 28/07/2024 09:43

You have to wonder about the motivations of whoever put the cropped video online. What did they want? Sectarian riots? And the media (even the BBC with their supposed fact-checking department) did their bidding.

As for the solicitor. Well, he is a very interesting character.

These violent yobs were willing to risk Manchester being torched and ordinary people living in fear in order to cover up their own crime and make a bit of money. Lovely people.

Usercyzabc · 28/07/2024 09:43

@rosiers sensible, as I’ve yet to await any Muslim women who condone violence against their own gender.

Zebedee999 · 28/07/2024 09:44

eggplant16 · 28/07/2024 09:40

They are supposed to be professionals. I assume they have had years and years of training.

They are and they do. In this horribly violent confrontation where a pair of yobs had already beaten two women to the ground, the copper reacted for a few seconds too long. I have no issue with that, better that than all the coppers beaten to the ground and the yobs get their guns. So the copper made a mistake... who hasn't made a mistake in their job? Several posters here think humans are all perfect... they are not.

UniversalAunt · 28/07/2024 09:44

My understanding is - I don’t have source to quote - that this group of people were disruptive during the flight, so airport security/UK police were involved as the flight landed.

There is a lot more to be discovered from interviews & all evidence captured to give a full picture of what actually happened. Bear in mind that armed police routinely patrol UK airports on active duty to protect national security. Once the civilian police could not contain the incident & the threat to the public increased then additional support would have been brought in to contain the situation.

Armed police are not random ‘plods’ patrolling the high street at chucking out time, they are carefully selected, highly trained, supervised & work everyday at a level of threat that few of us know or imagine. It is standard procedure for any police officer involved in some incidents to come off duty pending formal enquiries.

None of what we have seen online so far begins to tell the full story, we shall all have to wait to find out more. In the meantime, feelings run high & the risk of civil unrest intensifies.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 28/07/2024 09:45

Looking at the footage, I'd argue the police did everything by the book. Stamping in front of someone's head (not on it 🙄) is a sensible shock tactic, even the kick is because it's not safe to move the suspect's head with a hand that can be grabbed.

GabriellaMontez · 28/07/2024 09:45

rosiers · 28/07/2024 09:38

@eggplant16 there have been various suspiciously lazy comments relating to the "community" of these men throughout this thread, yet no one has managed to explain what they mean (or really mean). So far we have had "whatever community they belong to" and "the group of people protesting outside Rochdale police station" 😂

I read that GMP have been on touch with 'community leaders' about this incident.

Do you think this is suspicious too? What are you suspicious of?

rosiers · 28/07/2024 09:46

Alltheprettyseahorses · 28/07/2024 09:40

Yes. We are yet to see the full picture. It's not helpful for the public to be exposed to isolated clips in this way.

If we are to look at the context, we need to consider it all from the alleged argument on the plane, the alleged racial assault on the mother at baggage claim followed by the alleged fight at starbucks, the bodycam footage of the police on their approach, the assault on police officers, the detention of the perpetrators, and the "handling" of bystanders following the incident.

Thunder8090 · 28/07/2024 09:46

DustyLee123 · 28/07/2024 08:11

Having seen the footage, I’d like to change my vote please.

A perfect example of people jumping to conclusions without having all the facts.

EsmaCannonball · 28/07/2024 09:46

There were also online rumours started that the sons had kicked off because a police officer had hit their mother in the face. As far as I can tell she got hit by one of her own sons.

I guess that line of compensation has been shut down.

MauveCrow · 28/07/2024 09:47

eggplant16 · 28/07/2024 09:40

They are supposed to be professionals. I assume they have had years and years of training.

Training consists of years of someone grabbing you from behind, punching you repeatedly in the head and breaking your nose.
You only pass if you make your attacker a nice cup of tea and discuss how racist it is to defend yourself.

Swipe left for the next trending thread