Greater Manchester Police brutality

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

@TheThingIsYeah I'm not a sensitive twat who goes around punching police officers either, but I know that it isn't in the public interest to entrust positions of authority (indeed, to uphold the law!) to people who act out of anger and revenge in dangerous situations.

I can 100% see why he was angry btw, I'm not diminishing the circumstances they found themselves in, but that is exactly when we should be able to look to trained officers to act accordingly.

@EasternStandard I just hope the officer isn't thrown under the bus because "community"

I'm happy too.

Apparently these officers were armed.

I'm very happy that these police officers were very serious about stopping their weapons falling into the wrong hands.

cakeorwine · Today 19:27

And yes - the people who attacked the police officers should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I'm going to disagree. It's a very human reaction to fight back, if you are grabbed from behind and manhandled. It wasn't a good reaction, but the Police should have tried to talk to them first, instead of choosing to escalate the situation.

Mistaken identities! I don’t think they accidentally kicked an innocent party.

@SinnerBoy

the Police should have tried to talk to them first, instead of choosing to escalate the situation.

Talk to them? Ok you win. I'm done.

I don't think it was revenge. I think he was hit in the head about 10-15 times. Choked from behind, punched a few more times....all whilst having a firearm.

It looks for a split second the guy is trying to get up. I can understand in that split second after being victim to such a brutal assault his thoughts were "under no circumstances can he get to his feet".

Added to the fact he was concussed. I doubt he will either lose his job or get charged with assault. If he does I see the chances of conviction as close to 0%

What are you basing this on?

What was said just before the violent man pummelled the officer?

@whatnow123 after getting to his feet he pulls his taser. He sees that the perpetrator is incapacitated on the ground, hence why he doesn't use it, he understands it isn't necessary. At that point, he decides to kick them in the head and stomp on their head.

If he felt that the perpetrator was going to get to his feet, he would have/should have used his taser.

I'm possibly a little biased against GMP as my friend worked there as an officer for a few years until around 6 months ago. She left because she consistently saw male colleagues who were known to be violent promoted over her and other officers. She felt it was unconscionable to stay. There were other things she witnessed, which I won't go into here, but essentially my view of them as an organisation is already piss poor.

Talk to them? And say what? There was a reason those officers initially took the approach in the way they did. We don't know what happened before this. I suspect the officers used their experience to determine that this was not a 'talking ' situation.

He had already shot his Taser. So did he realise he didn't have a cartridge. Did he feel he was too close. Or was his a bit confused after being smacked in the head 15 times.

I can easily see that the cop saw this as a potential life or death situation for him and others & there was no way he was given him even a 0.1% chance of getting to his feet.

@OrangeFurever

Once you're ok with this for criminals, then you're ok with it for innocent people.

The two brothers are the criminals in that sentence. Obviously.🙄 I never stated they were innocent.

I’ve thought about it and if someone had punched me in the back of the head over and over with some enthusiasm I would probably not want them to get up again either. You are going to be seeing stars by the end of that aren’t you. The guy did look like he was getting up. I’m obviously not a police officer but I can imagine some are able to get up off the floor with their hands cuffed behind their backs.

’it wasn’t a good reaction’ - no shit Sherlock! It was an absolutely fucking violent reaction towards armed police!

He wasn’t cuffed!

Brutality is in the thread title but that is brutality whilst you do a job

And I agree with pp in the US and other countries they’d likely be shot. Not arguing for the same as it’s not how we respond here but quite shocked at the barrage of violence they faced

I don't understand why the police approached the suspects the way they did - and why did it get to a headlock so quickly. The suspect was near a wall and there were a lot of people around. It doesn't even seem like the suspect could see them until the police were there - and then a headlock and the fight happened.

Is that the way the police approach suspects?

They are armed police. Tasers and pistols.

It did seem to escalate really quickly.

It looked like he had just been tasered. His arms were by his side and he was on the floor.

Neither of the suspects were cuffed in this video. In the original truncated video people were talking as if the suspect in the grey top was handcuffed but clearly he wasn't, so he was still a danger. The male officer did not taser the suspect in the blue top himself so may not have even realised that suspect was incapacitated. The original video made it look as if that officer took a considered decision to kick. This one makes you see how violent and dangerous the situation was and why the officer may have been dazed and panicked. It all happened very quickly.

Having seen the new footage I think they were lucky they weren't shot considering they were armed police and going for them so aggressively. If they got hold of the offciers' weapons this could have ended tragically.

@EasternStandard if he got shot in the same circumstances, there would have also been an investigation and possibly criminal charges. If he was shot during the altercation, fair enough. Just like it would've been fair enough if he got kicked in the head DURING the fight.

having worked with prisoners I can understand how it happened when you see your colleagues being injured and your fighting to control the person and he’s fighting back the red mist can come down.
forget being professional the police are humans like us and the adrenaline takes over it’s happen to me in the past.
Good people sleep safely at night because some good people will do bad things to keep them safe.

A few posters have said that it looks like the perpetrator is trying to get up. I'm assuming people think that because he moves his head, despite not moving his arms or legs.

I think the tasers they use work in 5 second charge cycles. You can see the man's body tenses up when tased, then relaxes briefly as the charge stops. When it starts up again you see his body tense back up and his head jolts.

You don’t know why he acted the way he did. You don’t know how he felt. You are projecting.

@AllThePotatoesAreSinging projecting what?