Greater Manchester Police brutality

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

"The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) said it was arranging to interview the Greater Manchester Police (GMP) officer under criminal caution "as soon as possible" over the alleged assault on Tuesday."

From the BBC. Hopefully they do the right thing and prosecute him with gusto.

I have actually changed my mind on this. I think we need to see the whole video for context. I think people are fed up of seeing our society being increasingly violent and violent scum getting soft sentences (although the perception of increasing violence could be because of prevalence of filming incidents). But police seem to be decreasing in quality and effectiveness and no excuse for that violence. Due process needs to take place which has started with policeman being suspended. People in the community of all races should not use this as an opportunity to shit stir.

Agreed. Full context must be understood & not trial by social media / mob rule.

I actually think the only way this could be put to bed, either way, would be an official jury trial.

Good luck trying to find a jury who have no preconceptions about it though!

This incident has turned racial which is a hug concern which is a huge concern as the protests show,

Perhaps we should get bots to do the job. I can understand the anger at having your colleagues violently assaulted. It’s not ideal but I can understand it in the context and judging by the percentages at least half of us can.

I'm not sure the vast percentage of the population have had no dealings with the police. Many people have reported a crime, been stopped in your vehicle when they are doing checks, seen them at events, asked to give a statement.

I agree a certain type of person is attracted to these jobs.

Are you police? Sounds like the type of arrogant thing they would say.

We deal with violence in other jobs too, we just would never in a million years respond like these thugs.

Me too

You're very naive if you think obeying the law prevents you being set on by thuggish police officers.

Officer believe by being aggressive they are showing authority.
I have witnessed many occasions where they are barking orders with aggression to the public, in cases where it is not necessary.

It's all about race. Do you think the local mayor would have hot footed it to the parish council, the rotary club, or the Dog and Duck for their input if it was Barry from Margate that got upped by the old bill?

Course not.

So why does he need to go and meet with an assortment of self-appointed "leaders", race baiters, bent lawyers and general grifters all under the banner of "community partners"?

It's obvious. It's to appease the mob, to allow them to dictate the tone and speed of the investigation in return for not rioting. Surprised there's not some kangaroo court set up like there was for the woman who's autistic son scuffed a book, with the chief inspector nodding along like the Churchill dog in the background.

PS before you all pile on, no I don't think people should kick others in the head or punch women in the face.

Of course two things are possible.

The Asian men assaulted the police and maybe other passengers, behaved like criminals and should be charged and punished for their behaviour. I would be all for that.

The policeman then used excessive force and kicked a man in the head who posed no threat at that point. He used anger, and the kick was an act of revenge and could have killed the man. Unacceptable.

If we say police can behave like vigilantes and assault criminals when it is not needed, then we don’t need a police force any more. It’s every man or woman for him/herself.

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That’s rubbish! I’m guessing you voted for Brexit too 🙄

Whether or not people like it, we live in a multi cultural place.

Perhaps the family in their confusion made a poor choice of lawyer.

Posters who are saying, disingenuously, that we need to see the full video for context:

We already have the full context:

A Policeman is seen kicking and stamping on the head of a prone man, who is offering no resistance.

I couldn’t agree more. It’s irrelevant what happened prior to this. Stamping on someone’s head and kicking them in the head is not part of any conflict resolution model.

Feeling under threat by a baying mob, having just seen a colleague's nose broken and other colleagues also assaulted could all mean that human emotions & self preservation instinct take over.

I'm not condoning it at all, but I do think we need to know the full story / context and then for the CPS to act accordingly.

Trial by social media & appeasement of mob rule is not what should happen in a civilised society.

Trial by social media & appeasement of mob rule is not what should happen in a civilised society.

Neither should unsanctioned, extra-judicial physical chastisement, Which is why they CPS are looking into the criminality of the copper.

Sure .. IF the man was a threat. Like standing up aggressively, or reaching for the officer or his taser , or a passer by or even his mother.

In those circumstances I can see it happening from "self preservation ".

When the man is already tasered, face down on the ground, arms still near him and not moving? Not so much. Self preservation would've been to stay away , not like there weren't plenty of other officers to cuff him.

Can totally understand how officers react inappropriately when they've seen their colleagues viciously assaulted by arseholes.

That said they really should know better and know that their every move will be filmed so his lack of judgement regarding that fact is more puzzling tbh.

Out of curiosity, would you offer the same understanding to school staff if they did this?

Feeling under threat - when you are an armed police officer and you then decide to kick someone's head when he is lying on the flloor.

If you are feel under threat, that is one heck of a way to escalate a situation if you surrounded by a "baying mob" to use your words.

If a teacher saw a colleague horrifically attacked and had their hose broken I can understand how they may snap and lash out. I did say that the PC should've known better but he has been suspended. What more do people want?!

At least we aren't in the US, the arsehole on the floor would've no doubt ended up with more than a kick in the head <disclaimer not advocating or supporting violence but sometimes these situations are fraught>.