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Greater Manchester Police brutality

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Gummybear23 · 24/07/2024 22:22

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

Manchester airport: officer removed from frontline duty after arrest video goes viral

Armed police officer seen kicking suspect in footage Greater Manchester police called ‘truly shocking’

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

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ItsMeNotTheProblem · 26/07/2024 16:13

I’m glad to hear this is now a criminal investigation.

cakeorwine · 26/07/2024 16:15

Nobodywouldknow · 26/07/2024 16:03

Exactly. A crowded airport and there’s nothing showing how four officers were kicked to the ground by two men and needed to be hospitalised, one with a broken nose. Did nobody really film that? And why would the police just release someone who had carried out such a violent attack?

It was the car park at the payment terminals
Not a crowded airport

Nobodywouldknow · 26/07/2024 16:16

cakeorwine · 26/07/2024 16:15

It was the car park at the payment terminals
Not a crowded airport

There seemed to be plenty of people around plus presumably CCTV. Why don’t the police release that so that we can see them attacking the officers?

cakeorwine · 26/07/2024 16:21

Nobodywouldknow · 26/07/2024 16:16

There seemed to be plenty of people around plus presumably CCTV. Why don’t the police release that so that we can see them attacking the officers?

There are laws about disclosure. Any CCTV evidence would be shown at any criminal trial - of anyone involved.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 26/07/2024 16:26

NotAlexa · 26/07/2024 16:06

From what I understand there is a significant pre-story to this footage. Tee man that was kicked was a wanted criminal, who had previously attacked (and very violently) this same police officer minutes before being tasered. Although ordinarily police must never exhibit such force, in this case I think the police officer was acting out of instinct and adrenaline, rather than maliciously.

Don't feel a pinch of sorry for the criminal though. More sorry for the police officer who now has to go through a lot due to the fact "he acted out of affect".

Can you link to a source please?

SinnerBoy · 26/07/2024 16:34

Yes, I'd like to see a source for that, too. I'd have thought that it would have been all over the news and that he wouldn't have been out on bail. But as soon as Timmy Robertson, or Stewart Lee comes out with something like that, all the apologists jump on it as if it's Gospel.

Whilst pretending that the actual footage is fake / he deserved it, anyway.

OneTC · 26/07/2024 16:36

The story I read said there was a row on the plane between the older lady and some bloke, who then shunted her with his trolley later at baggage collection.

Then later in the terminal she pointed them out to her son's who'd come to collect her, argument started, police got involved, ending in the videos we've seen

Sunshineandpool · 26/07/2024 16:38

This is utterly sickening. These thugs are actually armed police!

How are we meant to respect the police when we see over and over they are thugs and racists and murderers? I have no respect for the police at all. My own experience is of them being lazy, ignorant and aggressive.

If this officer is not jailed it will be a travesty. He could have so easily killed the young man.

Sunshineandpool · 26/07/2024 16:43

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 26/07/2024 09:48

@WowReallysh any confirmation he was the one that broke the female police officer 's nose? I haven't seen any yet, but many posters seem to post as fact that he was personally (and sometimes singularly responsible ) for the assaults against the police officers.

I don't believe that happened for a minute. The police are well known to lie about these kinds of things to try and get sympathy after being violent. They like to pretend they got assaulted even when said person was handcuffed!!

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 26/07/2024 16:50

@Sunshineandpool I know there was a fight and that's why the police attended. I know a fight broke between the police and a number of suspects. I know police officers were injured. I know 4 men were arrested with one of the charges being injuring emergency services personnel.

I have no idea how that man was involved, the extent of his involvement, whether he actually harmed anyone (including the officers etc) . I don't get where posters are getting their info that they can state with such certainty who he assaulted and how and what injuries he caused.

SinnerBoy · 26/07/2024 17:22

Do we know that Police officers were actually assaulted and actually injured? We only have the word of a force known for dishonesty.

eggplant16 · 26/07/2024 17:40

Sunshineandpool · 26/07/2024 16:38

This is utterly sickening. These thugs are actually armed police!

How are we meant to respect the police when we see over and over they are thugs and racists and murderers? I have no respect for the police at all. My own experience is of them being lazy, ignorant and aggressive.

If this officer is not jailed it will be a travesty. He could have so easily killed the young man.

I suppose like the vast percentage of the population I've never had dealing with the police ( apart from one incident in Manchester City Centre) So I'm sort of neutral.
I do think the job attracts a certain type of person and promotes a certain culture.

user1492729177 · 26/07/2024 18:05

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 25/07/2024 22:11

The behaviour from the police was not on. They are trained to behave better, as they themselves commented. So shut up yourself @user1492729177 .

You have obviously never watched your colleague have their nose broken by a violent person. Until you have, wind your neck in

Fargo79 · 26/07/2024 18:09

user1492729177 · 26/07/2024 18:05

You have obviously never watched your colleague have their nose broken by a violent person. Until you have, wind your neck in

So the police should have freedom to behave however they want, even with extreme violence, and the public who they are there to protect should just keep our mouths shut?

No thanks. I will continue to demand professionalism from authority figures in trusted positions. Or at the very least, for them not to break the laws they are there to uphold.

ItsMeNotTheProblem · 26/07/2024 18:09

user1492729177 · 26/07/2024 18:05

You have obviously never watched your colleague have their nose broken by a violent person. Until you have, wind your neck in

I have!!

In a school.

I didn’t find it appropriate to kick the little shit in the head there either.

AnnieSnap · 26/07/2024 18:16

NotAlexa · 26/07/2024 16:06

From what I understand there is a significant pre-story to this footage. Tee man that was kicked was a wanted criminal, who had previously attacked (and very violently) this same police officer minutes before being tasered. Although ordinarily police must never exhibit such force, in this case I think the police officer was acting out of instinct and adrenaline, rather than maliciously.

Don't feel a pinch of sorry for the criminal though. More sorry for the police officer who now has to go through a lot due to the fact "he acted out of affect".

Interesting that the man in question was released shortly after being arrested without charge isn’t it?

Also, you think it’s acceptable, or even safe, for an armed Officer to act violently due to adrenaline? Scary!

LadyKenya · 26/07/2024 18:18

user1492729177 · 26/07/2024 18:05

You have obviously never watched your colleague have their nose broken by a violent person. Until you have, wind your neck in

Do we know for sure how the officer's nose was broken? I am not speculating on things which I have not seen. I know for sure that I saw a prone man, lying on his front, being kicked, and then stamped on the head by a person, who is meant to uphold the law though.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 26/07/2024 18:23

@user1492729177 I have . In a school. Or beaten black and blue. Or with crack ribs. Funnily enough i never kicked any of the kids responsible in the head.

livelovelough24 · 26/07/2024 18:28

cakeorwine · 25/07/2024 21:49

In fact - why not just keep kicking him?
Just in case.
Kick the shit out of him.
Kick his head in.

I guess there are some people on here who would have no issue with that.

Yes, I can see that and it is very disturbing. Basically what some people are saying is it is ok to do whatever you want to a criminal. If someone hit, killed or stole, you can come up to them and do whatever you want because they are bad.

Bex5490 · 26/07/2024 18:52

livelovelough24 · 26/07/2024 18:28

Yes, I can see that and it is very disturbing. Basically what some people are saying is it is ok to do whatever you want to a criminal. If someone hit, killed or stole, you can come up to them and do whatever you want because they are bad.

I mean it’s a pretty primitive argument isn’t it?

Gummybear23 · 27/07/2024 07:02

user1492729177 · 26/07/2024 18:05

You have obviously never watched your colleague have their nose broken by a violent person. Until you have, wind your neck in

Where is the evidence of the broken nose?
Police are excellent at lying

Master of cover ups.
They are not squeaky clean law abiders either.
Rapists
Murderers
And as reported yesterday one officer has been jailed for stealing from a dying man in the street.

You are hired to be professionals not thugs.

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frequentlyfrazzled · 27/07/2024 08:28

I used to work in criminal law and have watched so much sickening CCTV footage of out of control thugs kicking and stamping on someone's head, often causing life changing injuries and sometimes death to the victim. We need to be able to trust our police officers not to act in the same way. We cannot ever tolerate a police officer acting like this. It is vile, disgusting, and inexcusable. Yes policing is a very difficult job, but for an officer to act like this in public makes me very, very concerned about what is going on behind closed doors.
It is so depressing that every few weeks there is another report in the news which gives people less faith in the police. Abducting, raping and murdering women, taking photos of murder victims, racism, violence, police brutality, the list goes on and on and on. It is just not acceptable. We need to demand better standards than this.

eggplant16 · 27/07/2024 10:51

This stamping on somebody's head is totally beyond me.

OneTC · 27/07/2024 10:56

user1492729177 · 26/07/2024 18:05

You have obviously never watched your colleague have their nose broken by a violent person. Until you have, wind your neck in

Well, not nose broken but I've seen someone very close to me get punched hard enough to knock her down. In what followed, despite the opportunity, nobody got their head kicked or stamped on. He was restrained, the police were called, he was arrested. The police that arrested him also didn't stamp on his head.

Some in this thread would have you believe that not stamping on someone's head is an unusual act of self restraint. Whereas I reckon anyone who's ever been exposed to violence would recognise that move for what it is. The only people that think it's a good idea are 10 pints deep and can be found outside a Croydon night club.

OneTC · 27/07/2024 10:57

And are commonly known as criminals