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Greater Manchester Police brutality

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Gummybear23 · 24/07/2024 22:22

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

Manchester airport: officer removed from frontline duty after arrest video goes viral

Armed police officer seen kicking suspect in footage Greater Manchester police called ‘truly shocking’

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

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cakeorwine · 26/07/2024 11:07

The police just aren't allowed to pepper spray people who are filming them and then try to confiscate mobile phones.

It's a good thing we have CCTV everywhere to capture these incidents.

wtfissummer · 26/07/2024 11:49

The police officer was out of order, even though the situation was highly charged. That includes the screaming onlookers and the daft old wifie wandering around and not getting back when she was told.

He should have acted professionally

He'll be dealt with in accordance with the law, of that I've no doubt.

What is not right is demos and chants and the brothers and their solicitor looking for compo justice.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 26/07/2024 12:17

It's not even just professionalism, though. He should have acted professionally but also without brutality, because that's what it was.

Nobodywouldknow · 26/07/2024 12:28

the daft old wifie wandering around and not getting back when she was told.

She was the mum of the two sons and had seen them get tasered and brutalised right in front of her.

wtfissummer · 26/07/2024 12:30

Nobodywouldknow · 26/07/2024 12:28

the daft old wifie wandering around and not getting back when she was told.

She was the mum of the two sons and had seen them get tasered and brutalised right in front of her.

Yes I know

That doesn't mean she can obstruct the police.

Nobodywouldknow · 26/07/2024 12:32

wtfissummer · 26/07/2024 12:30

Yes I know

That doesn't mean she can obstruct the police.

Well maybe describe her in less ageist misogynistic terms then 🤷‍♀️

Sarvanga24 · 26/07/2024 12:36

Realduchymarmalade · 25/07/2024 21:35

I feel more upset for the female police officers who were assaulted, including the one with a broken nose. Goodness knows what would have happened to them if the male police officers hadn’t arrived.

If I were the police officer with the broken nose, I would be incandescent at this constant narrative that I wasn't up to my job because I was female and needed to be protected by the blokes. The girly ones are obviously only there to make things look a bit prettier, right?

WowReallysh · 26/07/2024 12:46

FineFettler · 26/07/2024 10:23

So, suppose this was you. A police officer genuinely believes you are a thug and has therefore kicked you in the head and stamped on your head. On your reasoning, that's absolutely fine. Is it? Even if you are innocent but he hasn't taken the time to check his facts before kicking?

Never been in any issue with the police. I obey the law 🤷🏻. Wouldn't be in the situation where the police would see me as a threat

LadyKenya · 26/07/2024 12:49

WowReallysh · 26/07/2024 12:46

Never been in any issue with the police. I obey the law 🤷🏻. Wouldn't be in the situation where the police would see me as a threat

Well aren't you the lucky one then. Not everyone can say the same, unfortunately.

Nobodywouldknow · 26/07/2024 12:51

WowReallysh · 26/07/2024 12:46

Never been in any issue with the police. I obey the law 🤷🏻. Wouldn't be in the situation where the police would see me as a threat

How can you be so sure? Is it due to skin colour or some other reason? I didn’t think the unarmed petite woman who got shot to death in her own home in the US a few days ago would be seen as a threat either. But here we are.

PuttingDownRoots · 26/07/2024 12:53

WowReallysh · 26/07/2024 12:46

Never been in any issue with the police. I obey the law 🤷🏻. Wouldn't be in the situation where the police would see me as a threat

A couple of years ago a colleague of DHs was arrested for a brutal assault and rape. Eyewitnesses identified him.

Except it wasn't. There was irrefutable proof he was several hundred miles away at the time. He was released within a few hours.

So not doing anything wrong is no guarantee of not being involved negatively with the police.

AnnieMcFanny · 26/07/2024 12:56

He was already down on the floor and the kicking was brutality. The kind of behaviour you see in the media when showing the drunken goings on outside pubs and night clubs at the weekend.

AnnieSnap · 26/07/2024 14:28

wtfissummer · 26/07/2024 11:49

The police officer was out of order, even though the situation was highly charged. That includes the screaming onlookers and the daft old wifie wandering around and not getting back when she was told.

He should have acted professionally

He'll be dealt with in accordance with the law, of that I've no doubt.

What is not right is demos and chants and the brothers and their solicitor looking for compo justice.

The “daft old wifey” that you refer to in that misogynistic way, was the mother of the man being kicked in the face. She was understandably concerned for her son.

As for the Officer being dealt with in accordance with the law. A member of the public carrying out such an assault would be charged with criminal offences. I doubt that will happen to the Officer, despite being subject to the same laws as the rest of us.

Why do you think the restrained men were released from custody with no charges? 🤔

Whammyammy · 26/07/2024 14:32

Regardless of what happened before, the man was on the floor subdued. The police officer was not in his rights to kick him in the head and then stamp on him.

The police officer should lose his job and face conviction for a violent attack.

The police office is not the rest of the police force, he is an individual.

twentysomethingendssoon · 26/07/2024 15:07

@eggplant16

Good I am glad you have backtracked on claiming I said I condoned the actions of the officer

But I'm still confused why you are making things up still and saying I told you to ' f off'. I never told you to 'f off' someone else did. Fibbing when it's in black and white clearly gets you caught out

LadyKenya · 26/07/2024 15:09

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Mayorq · 26/07/2024 15:50

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Oh great, another keyboard police officer pontificating on what the police should have done from the comfort of their new build house in the south east without ever experiencing what it's like to deal with real life situations in the heat of the moment

Northernnature · 26/07/2024 15:55

The main question is why haven't we been shown the incident in full? Ie what happened before the policeman kicked the man? Apparently Andy Burnham has seen the whole filming. It seems like the media are just trying to stir things up - I don't know why this is.

LadyKenya · 26/07/2024 15:56

Mayorq · 26/07/2024 15:50

Oh great, another keyboard police officer pontificating on what the police should have done from the comfort of their new build house in the south east without ever experiencing what it's like to deal with real life situations in the heat of the moment

Err wrong on all counts, but by all means report my post, as I have done, as I realised that it is not really about what the thread is about, which is the brutality that happened at the airport. You may have more luck than I did in having it removed!

Mayorq · 26/07/2024 16:02

I was being sarcastic

Nobodywouldknow · 26/07/2024 16:03

Northernnature · 26/07/2024 15:55

The main question is why haven't we been shown the incident in full? Ie what happened before the policeman kicked the man? Apparently Andy Burnham has seen the whole filming. It seems like the media are just trying to stir things up - I don't know why this is.

Exactly. A crowded airport and there’s nothing showing how four officers were kicked to the ground by two men and needed to be hospitalised, one with a broken nose. Did nobody really film that? And why would the police just release someone who had carried out such a violent attack?

TheThingIsYeah · 26/07/2024 16:04

Andy Burnham just given a short statement on the incident. This morning he visited 40 (yes forty) "community partners"

What's a community partner?

NotAlexa · 26/07/2024 16:06

From what I understand there is a significant pre-story to this footage. Tee man that was kicked was a wanted criminal, who had previously attacked (and very violently) this same police officer minutes before being tasered. Although ordinarily police must never exhibit such force, in this case I think the police officer was acting out of instinct and adrenaline, rather than maliciously.

Don't feel a pinch of sorry for the criminal though. More sorry for the police officer who now has to go through a lot due to the fact "he acted out of affect".

SinnerBoy · 26/07/2024 16:07

Livelovebehappy · Today 09:10

And I wouldn’t put much confidence in the womens statements about strip searched until the full facts are available. People in these situations often lie or exaggerate the issue to fit their own agendas.

Well, if the CCTV of the women being sexually assaulted in cells, which was released to the press, doesn't convince you, fuck knows what will. Just keep on calling them criminals and liars, whilst excusing the actual criminals and lawyers.

LadyKenya · 26/07/2024 16:08

Mayorq · 26/07/2024 16:02

I was being sarcastic

Oh, I see. I did want it removed though, because I did think that it was not about the topic in hand, about 2 minutes after I pressed send😆. I was on the BBC news site looking for information that the men in the incident had been bailed, and came across this particular article.

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