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Seen wonderful karma at work today

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Redgreenfroggy · 24/07/2024 20:56

In London at the moment. Went to the Tower of London today, sat outside and as usual loads of pigeons.

2 lots of parents sat there laughing and filming their little darlings chase and kick out at the pigeons. One of the boys made contact with one. Just as I was about to open my month to have a go at the parents another pigeon flew over the dad’s head and did the most perfectly aimed shit that landed right on his bald head.

dad then stands up shouting dirty bastards and then realised quite a few people were laughing including myself and my lot. I was creased up. He and his family very quickly leave. The most funny thing was it was down to his own that the pigeons were flying all over in panic

Beautful Karma. Can anyone beat this with their own experience of Karma at work

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Strictlymad · 25/07/2024 14:13

A one or two year old toddling after pigeons saying nice birdy with finger outstretched and wanting to pet (or course the pigeons won’t let them) is ok I think, a child 4 and up chasing and trying to kick is cruel and nasty

BigBoysDontCry · 25/07/2024 14:13

ghostyslovesheets · 25/07/2024 12:37

We used to tell our girls that if they caught a pigeon they could keep it as a pet BUT the only chance they had of catching them was by being calm and nice to them! We do not own a pigeon.

Best karma I ever had was when I had some twat on a motorcycle tailgating me through town giving my rude gestures because I was doing 30mph - eventually he shot past me - straight through a speed trap! Fabulous stuff

I had similar. My regular school run involved a big busy roundabout at the top of a motorway, to get to school you come off, down a bit of dual carriageway then onto single and into the town. At the bit between this exit and the similar bit to get back on this roundabout, there was a police speed trap there one morning. No bother to me, went about my business and did my drop off. Straight after i have some arseholes tailgating me and as soon as i reached the dual bit heading back to the roundabout, they shot past, honking and revving. I passed them stopped by the police 10 seconds later.... Now a kinder person might have tried to warn them about the speed trap just up the hill but it seems that I'm not that kind.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 25/07/2024 14:14

MeouwCat · 25/07/2024 13:44

I wonder what your Karama will be for posting this. Please let us know.

A big benevolent smile from the universe.
😀

Edited, because I’m a pedant, to add: at least that’s the karma I wish on OP. Karama sounds sweet, like caramel, mmm. So, if OP’s got a sweet tooth, I wish her plenty of that too.

Polyp0 · 25/07/2024 14:15

I don't mind kids chasing pigeons. The pigeons look like they enjoy it to me.

Lifeomars · 25/07/2024 14:23

Redgreenfroggy · 25/07/2024 11:00

Also the osprey nest on ethswaite water having to be monitored 24/7 due to people trying to steal the eggs.

What the hell is wrong with people? We share our planet with all these wonderful creatures who do us no harm and yet there are people who exploit them, neglect them or are actively cruel to them. That horrible woman who has been dropped from the Olympics for whipping her horse springs to mind.

RedToothBrush · 25/07/2024 14:23

AzureAnt · 24/07/2024 22:22

Brilliant. Pigeons are much maligned imho. Their role aa carrier pigeons in the war saved many lives. When I feed the waterfowl at the local park I always make sure the pigeons get a share 😄

They carry disease. Thats why they are maligned.

muddyford · 25/07/2024 14:26

BigBoysDontCry · 25/07/2024 14:13

I had similar. My regular school run involved a big busy roundabout at the top of a motorway, to get to school you come off, down a bit of dual carriageway then onto single and into the town. At the bit between this exit and the similar bit to get back on this roundabout, there was a police speed trap there one morning. No bother to me, went about my business and did my drop off. Straight after i have some arseholes tailgating me and as soon as i reached the dual bit heading back to the roundabout, they shot past, honking and revving. I passed them stopped by the police 10 seconds later.... Now a kinder person might have tried to warn them about the speed trap just up the hill but it seems that I'm not that kind.

Mine is similar to yours. Moron towing a clapped out trailer pulls out suddenly in front of me. I notice that the trailer is so poorly loaded that one side is nearly touching the tyre. Moron tootles away quite quickly and hits a very deep pothole that all we locals know about. Axle on moron's trailer breaks. Moron pulls over. I overtake with a suppressed grin.

Agapornis · 25/07/2024 14:29

Dartwarbler · 25/07/2024 13:37

Bird egg hunting is, imho, slightly different to abusing animals and Tom renting them

egg hunting is done by bat shit crazed collectors who know a lot about birds, too much sometimes, and would never run around chasing them as they know it’ll give their game away. They are criminals. Impacting bird populations. But not in same kettle of fish that allow their kids to stress out birds by chasing them. They’re probably last ones to harm a live and hatched bird as that’s their future source of eggs.

closer to those care less parents are the many cases of gamekeepers who lay poison and traps to kill birds of prey. Criminals agian. But still happening in huge numbers. Their mindset is probably more like the parents who don’t give a shit for birds being stressed or harmed.

minor point,

Different but arguably egg theft is worse - it has a far bigger, long-term effect.

Egg theft and chasing birds affects very different species. Shit parents/children will mostly affect commons species - pigeons, crows, mallards, etc.

Egg theft has been illegal since 1954, and most affects rare, endangered, and critically endangered birds. Modern thieves rarely take just 1 egg - they usually take the whole clutch, and the birds often won't lay another clutch that year. So that's it for the chances of reproduction that year, and thanks to gamekeepers/poachers on their migration routes, they may well die in the coming year anyway.

Wildlife crime sentencing is ridiculously minimal. Look up Daniel Lingham - stole nearly 3000 eggs, but this year only got a 12 week suspended sentence, and had to pay £482 in costs. Previously convicted in 2005 (10 weeks, 4000 eggs) and 2018 (18 weeks, 5000 eggs). That's 12,000 birds that will never exist. For 18 weeks in prison (probably 9) and £482. Absolute bargain - 4p an egg.

Agapornis · 25/07/2024 14:30

RedToothBrush · 25/07/2024 14:23

They carry disease. Thats why they are maligned.

So do you. Wash your hands after you touch a pigeon, like you do after going to the loo.

MrBallensWife · 25/07/2024 14:32

Crackwillow · 25/07/2024 12:42

Yuk, pigeons are vermin. They are not so scared of small children chasing them, they flap about a bit and then land in the exact spot. Their fouling is disgusting on buildings/rail stations—disease spreaders.

The only vermin on this earth is us Humans.We do more damage to this planet and carry more disease than any animals.

Beautiful3 · 25/07/2024 14:35

I love your story, because I love pigeons. I feed them in the garden. That man deserved that 100%

quantumbutterfly · 25/07/2024 14:35

RedToothBrush · 25/07/2024 14:23

They carry disease. Thats why they are maligned.

tbf all animals carry diseases, even your pets. Covid, HIV, swine flu were diseases that crossed species barriers.

We are surrounded by pathogens and immune systems (even healthy ones) can be taken by surprise.

Pigeons are maligned because they make a mess, grey squirrels are also vermin but they have better pr.

RedditFinder · 25/07/2024 14:38

LindorDoubleChoc · 25/07/2024 11:07

Wait ... there are pelicans in St James's Park?? Well, I'm going to have to go and visit them now, I love this!

Years ago one of them ate a pigeon on camera. No I'm not going to link it here.

republicofjam · 25/07/2024 14:38

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 12:41

Some people have children that will chase pigeons regardless of their instruction not to. Often those parents are thoroughly ground down by their own children’s poor behaviour and the absolute last thing they need is strangers shouting at them publicly.

The same parents are making decisions not to take their children places in the summer holidays as they can’t bare the judgement that comes from those random strangers.

Edited

Taking your argument to its logical conclusion you would rather the general public turn a blind eye to animal cruelty, so as not to make the parents of the perpetrators feel uncomfortable and judged.

PepsiAddiction · 25/07/2024 14:40

MonsteraMama · 25/07/2024 11:04

People just think animals are toys. I lost my absolute shit on a couple last summer because I caught them in our (double fenced and heavily signposted) field trying to put their toddler up on my horse to take a photo. You couldn't make it up. Just lucky they chose the quiet one, not the nervous, kicky one that all the fecking sign posts are about.

I had this a few times with my horses. It got so bad I put an electric fence inside the wall and fences of the field to keep the horses further away. One wonderful specimen of a man knew better though and climbed the wall with his two children, of course the horses trotted over including the shitland (and yes he truly is a shit). As I was walking towards them the horses started jostling as there was food on offer, Bertie the shitland as usual barged his way in, nipped one of my mares who in turn turned her arse and lashed out sending the father flying. It was carnage by this time as two horses hit the electric fence, squealed and bolted up the field, Bertie being smaller then the rest managed to scran the bag of apples rolling all over the ground which made the children cry, then the father tried to pull himself up using the electric fence. It was poetry in motion to watch. Of course it was all my fault according to him 😂. This is the one and only time I’ve used the phrase ‘get OFF my land’.

quantumbutterfly · 25/07/2024 14:41

RedditFinder · 25/07/2024 14:38

Years ago one of them ate a pigeon on camera. No I'm not going to link it here.

well there's the answer for people who have a problem with too many pigeons. 😁If you call pigeons rock doves, does that re-branding help their pr.

I like your story op.

Would like to see more karma for people who mistreat animals.

niadainud · 25/07/2024 14:43

How is this karma at work? Are you a Beefeater?

quantumbutterfly · 25/07/2024 14:44

niadainud · 25/07/2024 14:43

How is this karma at work? Are you a Beefeater?

Or an international jewel thief?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 25/07/2024 14:46

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 12:41

Some people have children that will chase pigeons regardless of their instruction not to. Often those parents are thoroughly ground down by their own children’s poor behaviour and the absolute last thing they need is strangers shouting at them publicly.

The same parents are making decisions not to take their children places in the summer holidays as they can’t bare the judgement that comes from those random strangers.

Edited

Oh I’m fine with the children not being taken somewhere they can harm animals.
I’d be first to shout if kids are behaving poorly towards animals but I know I wouldn’t be on my own in that.

WickedWitchOfTheEast87 · 25/07/2024 14:48

willproblem · 25/07/2024 11:46

I saw a foreign tourist pick up & cuddle a cygnet, while her DP took a pic.
Mum swan then attacked her. DP then tried to attack Mum.
Bystanders were yelling "put it down", a couple of young lads pulled DP away & he slipped and fell on a pile of shit. It's amazing how a small pile swan shit can spread.
Oh, how we laughed.

I'm torn between laughter and admiration at the bravery of picking up a cygnet when the mother was there I'd be too shit scared of getting attacked! Maybe it was plain stupidity.

🤣🤣 at the pidgeon shitting on the dad, I'm not a fan of birds because some are aggressive but thats so cruel of the kids serves the dad right for allowing it

PepsiAddiction · 25/07/2024 14:49

We also get a lot of idiots approaching wild deer. The amount of people I’ve seen offering them food is astonishing. Last year a couple were trying to feed some of the deer one being a stag, the stag nudged him and he grabbed its antlers not realising in stag language during rutting season that’s an invite to fight. It tossed him a good few meters and they were lucky their car was so close to get into quickly. We see people trying to feed them most days.

Sweetleftfood · 25/07/2024 14:54

It also annoys me when parents let their kids pick daffodils or other carefully planted flowers in parks, often they don't even take them home just discard them on the ground. So stupid. I am sort of indifferent to pigeons but would never let my kids chase or hurt them or any other bird. Not difficult to distract them to do something else surely. Most parks have playgrounds so go there instead

BitOutOfPractice · 25/07/2024 14:58

popthepopcorns · 25/07/2024 12:28

I love pigeons. So nice to see other people feel the same way

I don't like them at all. But I would never chase / harm one and my kids would get a bollocking from me if they chased them.

SerafinasGoose · 25/07/2024 15:06

At Derwentwater near Keswic, a bunch of kids saw fit to torment a gaggle of large Canada geese. They attempted to chase them, brandishing sticks and hitting out with these whilst also trying to kick them. Their parents looked on smiling indulgently and did absolutely nothing. I didn't trouble to remonstrate because I knew what would happen. So I waited nearby to enjoy the spectacle.

Those geese really fucking went for it, hissing, pecking, ripping at clothing, honking like mad. The parents went ape trying to fend them off, and then promptly went ape at me and my companion too, because we were standing there openly and unrepentantly laughing at them.

I calmly responded to their shouting by informing them that an easy solution would be to stop their progeny the next time they decided tormenting animals was a good idea.

Of course, that won't happen. And whilst these kids got theirs, I've seen this happening on far too many occasions in Cumbria. What is the matter with children who want to hurt animals? And why the hell do their parents let them?