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Redgreenfroggy · 24/07/2024 20:56

In London at the moment. Went to the Tower of London today, sat outside and as usual loads of pigeons.

2 lots of parents sat there laughing and filming their little darlings chase and kick out at the pigeons. One of the boys made contact with one. Just as I was about to open my month to have a go at the parents another pigeon flew over the dad’s head and did the most perfectly aimed shit that landed right on his bald head.

dad then stands up shouting dirty bastards and then realised quite a few people were laughing including myself and my lot. I was creased up. He and his family very quickly leave. The most funny thing was it was down to his own that the pigeons were flying all over in panic

Beautful Karma. Can anyone beat this with their own experience of Karma at work

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Bobbotgegrinch · 25/07/2024 13:21

I have a family of crows that I've befriended in work. Every lunch time they get one of my crisps (Not each, they get one between them and Boss Crow decides who owns it).

I've been wondering just how much they recognise me, or whether they're this friendly with everyone who sits near them with food.

Anyway, two days ago I'm sat on my usual bench eating my lunch. They've already had their daily crisp so they've dispersed a bit, when a family with a small child comes near, and the kid starts running towards the crows, roaring.

Next thing I know I've got 5 crows all huddled around my feet and under my bench. I was well chuffed to realise that they see me as one of their own.

Portakalkedi · 25/07/2024 13:21

PotNoodleNancy · 25/07/2024 12:53

FFS! The poor ground down parents = utter bollocks.

The parents wanted a cushy life so didn’t put the effort in at the beginning when the kids were toddlers to ensure that their children know where the boundaries lie. They’d rather their teachers parented them.

Don’t give me SEN either. My kid has SEN but he knows not to be cruel to animals although he never needing teaching that one as he has a natural affinity with animals as they all seem to automatically love him.

Well said. Probably the same parents who can't be arsed to bring up their children to eat proper food, then whinging about how difficult it is when the little darlings will only eat chicken nuggets/other crap item. Well maybe if you hadn't brought them up that way.. so much poor and lazy parenting and then expecting somebody else to sort out the problems.

Flumpie59 · 25/07/2024 13:21

Killing myself laughing here! Good on the pigeon! Serves the ''parents'' right!

They're not ''raising their children to be respectful'' but dragging up the shitty moronic brats to be vicious animal abusing psychopaths!

I love pigeons!

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 25/07/2024 13:21

The same parents are making decisions not to take their children places in the summer holidays as they can’t bare the judgement that comes from those random strangers.

Good. Maybe the kids will learn that if they behave like little shits they will miss out on nice things.

Shufflebumnessie · 25/07/2024 13:25

I have never understood why people allow their children to torment/abuse pigeons. It makes me so angry and I have shouted at many who do it.
We were waiting outside the Natural History Museum a couple of months ago and the number of children chasing / deliberately trying to kick them was ridiculous. My 2 were asking why other children felt the need to do that and to be so cruel (they are by no means perfect, believe me, but at last they know the difference between right & wrong, and how to treat other living creatures!).
Your karma story is brilliant!

JoeGrundyWasMyRoleModel · 25/07/2024 13:25

Feral pigeons are not vermin. However they are declared a pest and can be culled

”Culling pigeons to reduce flock sizes is rarely successful unless access to food is restricted, otherwise population numbers soon recover. This should only ever be done as a last resort and in accordance with a wildlife licence (general or individual) issued by an appropriate government department. ”

https://bpca.org.uk/a-z-of-pest-advice/bird-and-gull-control-get-rid-of-birds-and-gulls-bpca-a-z-of-pests/189183#pigeons

Pest advice for controlling pigeons, gulls and other birds

https://bpca.org.uk/a-z-of-pest-advice/bird-and-gull-control-get-rid-of-birds-and-gulls-bpca-a-z-of-pests/189183#pigeons

DollyBrolly · 25/07/2024 13:26

Itsallabouttea · 25/07/2024 12:51

Absolutely. These are living creatures trying to make their way in the world like anything else. They're not 'vermin' and it's not cool to let your kids scare them

So are rats. So I'm sure everyone on this thread treats them with the utmost gentleness if they see one scurrying towards their bin / kitchen door / pushchair 🙄
The pigeons in my town primarily congregate in a particular area right next to a busy (but 20mph) road. There are constantly buses, delivery trucks, loud motorcycles etc lumbering loudly past. Not to mention the innumerable cats and urban foxes that actually pose a threat to them. Anyone who thinks they are in the least bit frightened of my toddler wobbling towards them burbling "bir! bir!" has never seen a flock of pigeons lazily rise up in front of an over-excited child and then settle down 2 feet away.

Pigeons are famously smart. They know what is and isn't a threat to them, and they definitely don't give a shit about little kids that don't have a hope of catching them.

LaurieFairyCake · 25/07/2024 13:27

I love pigeons

Last year one had a plastic bag caught on its leg on the station platform - it let me pick it up and unravel it off

Didn't even fly away for a couple of minutes when I put it on the ground gently afterwards

Sweet creatures 🥰

People are cunts

Mogwais · 25/07/2024 13:28

Bobbotgegrinch · 25/07/2024 13:21

I have a family of crows that I've befriended in work. Every lunch time they get one of my crisps (Not each, they get one between them and Boss Crow decides who owns it).

I've been wondering just how much they recognise me, or whether they're this friendly with everyone who sits near them with food.

Anyway, two days ago I'm sat on my usual bench eating my lunch. They've already had their daily crisp so they've dispersed a bit, when a family with a small child comes near, and the kid starts running towards the crows, roaring.

Next thing I know I've got 5 crows all huddled around my feet and under my bench. I was well chuffed to realise that they see me as one of their own.

That's so lovely, crows definitely recognise people & will remember kindness, they're incredibly intelligent birds, thank you for being so kind to them,.

Proudtobeanortherner · 25/07/2024 13:30

Hoppinggreen · 25/07/2024 11:05

And they would all be wrong.
Its absolutely awful and I hate seeing it.
People bleat "oh they don't hurt them" but its frightening for the birds anyway.
My DC knew never to do it

It’s awful and ultimately teaches the children that it’s okay to be a bully

TheSerenePinkOrca · 25/07/2024 13:32

A man in my village zooms round on his electric scooter and doesn't pay much attention to the road or pedestrians.

Yesterday as we were walking back from school he was scooting down the main road whilst on his phone. He then tried to take his other hand off the scooter to reply to a message and wobbled so much he nearly fell off!!

Witnessed by lots of parents and children and we all laughed out loud!

Bobbotgegrinch · 25/07/2024 13:35

Mogwais · 25/07/2024 13:28

That's so lovely, crows definitely recognise people & will remember kindness, they're incredibly intelligent birds, thank you for being so kind to them,.

I can't claim to be entirely altruistic. The university I work at has a bit of a seagull problem, to the extent that we've got signs up warning about them nicking food out of your hand. I thought having my own personal army of crows might act as a deterrent! Thus far it has not.

We did have a bit of a ropey moment a few weeks in where I gave them a salt and vinegar Disco. I think they thought I'd poisoned them, and they were very wary of me for the next week!

Dartwarbler · 25/07/2024 13:37

Redgreenfroggy · 25/07/2024 11:00

Also the osprey nest on ethswaite water having to be monitored 24/7 due to people trying to steal the eggs.

Bird egg hunting is, imho, slightly different to abusing animals and Tom renting them

egg hunting is done by bat shit crazed collectors who know a lot about birds, too much sometimes, and would never run around chasing them as they know it’ll give their game away. They are criminals. Impacting bird populations. But not in same kettle of fish that allow their kids to stress out birds by chasing them. They’re probably last ones to harm a live and hatched bird as that’s their future source of eggs.

closer to those care less parents are the many cases of gamekeepers who lay poison and traps to kill birds of prey. Criminals agian. But still happening in huge numbers. Their mindset is probably more like the parents who don’t give a shit for birds being stressed or harmed.

minor point,

Dartwarbler · 25/07/2024 13:39

LaurieFairyCake · 25/07/2024 13:27

I love pigeons

Last year one had a plastic bag caught on its leg on the station platform - it let me pick it up and unravel it off

Didn't even fly away for a couple of minutes when I put it on the ground gently afterwards

Sweet creatures 🥰

People are cunts

Sweet creatures but sex obsessed … male pigeons stalk and pester females continuously. Feel sorry for female pigeons 🤷🏼‍♀️🤨

MeouwCat · 25/07/2024 13:44

Redgreenfroggy · 24/07/2024 20:56

In London at the moment. Went to the Tower of London today, sat outside and as usual loads of pigeons.

2 lots of parents sat there laughing and filming their little darlings chase and kick out at the pigeons. One of the boys made contact with one. Just as I was about to open my month to have a go at the parents another pigeon flew over the dad’s head and did the most perfectly aimed shit that landed right on his bald head.

dad then stands up shouting dirty bastards and then realised quite a few people were laughing including myself and my lot. I was creased up. He and his family very quickly leave. The most funny thing was it was down to his own that the pigeons were flying all over in panic

Beautful Karma. Can anyone beat this with their own experience of Karma at work

I wonder what your Karama will be for posting this. Please let us know.

Coastalcreeksider · 25/07/2024 13:45

I've got a pair of loved up pigeons that have been coming into the garden for over a year. I'm quite fond of them now.

I hate seeing horrible, shouty kids chasing them in town while their parents are too busy staring at their phones to pay attention. 😕

Mogwais · 25/07/2024 13:46

Bobbotgegrinch · 25/07/2024 13:35

I can't claim to be entirely altruistic. The university I work at has a bit of a seagull problem, to the extent that we've got signs up warning about them nicking food out of your hand. I thought having my own personal army of crows might act as a deterrent! Thus far it has not.

We did have a bit of a ropey moment a few weeks in where I gave them a salt and vinegar Disco. I think they thought I'd poisoned them, and they were very wary of me for the next week!

Thanks for this I haven't laughed so much in ages, I love the salt & vinegar disco bit lol 😆

askmenow · 25/07/2024 13:47

Itsallabouttea · 25/07/2024 12:23

My friend is a warden at a local nature reserve and is on the verge of leaving due to the behaviour of the public. Bringing dogs on site and letting them run amok in areas with ground nesting birds, kids terrorising the wildlife and just general entitled and abusive twattery. I gave a bollocking to some kid at a national trust place the other day who was relentlessly chasing an absolutely terrified goose. Mum wasn't happy but tough shit!

"Gentle arsehole parenting" bring up savages! Such hope for the future....not!

londonmummy1966 · 25/07/2024 13:49

LindorDoubleChoc · 25/07/2024 11:07

Wait ... there are pelicans in St James's Park?? Well, I'm going to have to go and visit them now, I love this!

Like this....

Seen wonderful karma at work today
MeridianB · 25/07/2024 13:52

I am so heartened to know that I am not the only person who steps in when they see this.

I saw two boys of around 11 on their own in a big park chasing swans and geese with sticks and then throwing them. I asked one where his parents were and he looked at me without the slightest hint of concern and said "Why?"🙄

When I found his dad (about 100ft away with zero ability to see the boys), I was expecting someone who didn't care. I was amazed when he turned to the boys and said "That's disgusting. You total idiots - why on earth would you do such a thing. I'm so disappointed in you both."

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 25/07/2024 13:52

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 12:41

Some people have children that will chase pigeons regardless of their instruction not to. Often those parents are thoroughly ground down by their own children’s poor behaviour and the absolute last thing they need is strangers shouting at them publicly.

The same parents are making decisions not to take their children places in the summer holidays as they can’t bare the judgement that comes from those random strangers.

Edited

I think you are missing the point here. If you decide not to take your children somewhere it should surely be because they can't be trusted not to terrorise birds, not because you don't like feeling judged. Whatever happened to consequences?

MeridianB · 25/07/2024 13:56

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 25/07/2024 12:41

Some people have children that will chase pigeons regardless of their instruction not to. Often those parents are thoroughly ground down by their own children’s poor behaviour and the absolute last thing they need is strangers shouting at them publicly.

The same parents are making decisions not to take their children places in the summer holidays as they can’t bare the judgement that comes from those random strangers.

Edited

They should be kept at home until they learn not to be cruel to animals.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 25/07/2024 14:05

Saw a group feeding horses with apples and mints, right next to them was a sign on a fence saying please don’t feed these horses, they are on a special diet. I did intervene, and after being told to fuck off I told them if they did not stop i would take a picture of them and send it to the owner so he could sue them when his/her horses died of colic.

Well done, OP. It takes courage.

venus7 · 25/07/2024 14:11

Bobbotgegrinch · 25/07/2024 13:21

I have a family of crows that I've befriended in work. Every lunch time they get one of my crisps (Not each, they get one between them and Boss Crow decides who owns it).

I've been wondering just how much they recognise me, or whether they're this friendly with everyone who sits near them with food.

Anyway, two days ago I'm sat on my usual bench eating my lunch. They've already had their daily crisp so they've dispersed a bit, when a family with a small child comes near, and the kid starts running towards the crows, roaring.

Next thing I know I've got 5 crows all huddled around my feet and under my bench. I was well chuffed to realise that they see me as one of their own.

This is lovely.......you're a crow protector. They'll start to worship you............

cantkeepawayforever · 25/07/2024 14:13

Some people have children that will chase pigeons regardless of their instruction not to. Often those parents are thoroughly ground down by their own children’s poor behaviour and the absolute last thing they need is strangers shouting at them publicly.

I think that there is a difference between seeing a parent trying their utmost to manage and correct their children’s behaviour and seeing children with a parent who doesn’t seem to notice or care. In the first instance, I think most strangers will be strongly on the parent’s side and offer sympathy and solidarity. In the latter case, strangers may intervene with the children or parents more directly.