To ask you to choose which coffee machine (for someone who hates coffee!) and how to force myself to love coffee as top drs have told me I HAVE to drink it and lots of it

[CocoBellaSparkle]

Dear MN’s,

I’ve been telling myself to not NC .. (years ago I did a lot ) but I’d rather just be ‘me’ so on that note .. some may have briefly seen/noticed that I’ve got a very bleak outcome .. very later stage ‘C’ caught unfortunately too late and it’s spread and no cure and removal / transplant / chemo will be fatal .. so untreatable and no cure

Anyway got that annoying little bit said and out of the way 😄 sooo my top Doctors/Specialists/ Nurses have all said that for my particular illness (annoyingly would have been better advice in the very early days now it’s more ‘the horse has very much bolted off ..) but nothing to lose in still trying this - coffee is THE healthiest thing people on my shoes can consume for this type of cancer

I DETEST coffee and always have .. i’ve had about 3 or four cups in my whole life .. and those ones not only tasted awful but gave me the shakes , worst migraine and sickness and bad tummy

Genuine question MN’s - can you (or have any of you) hated coffee and made yourself fall in love with it or even tolerated it ?

I love the idea of being a NORMAL person (cause i’m fully aware i’m the abnormal one as everyone loves coffee I believe) and to love coffee and to meet friends for coffee , to appreciate a nice mug of coffee, to have that ‘coffee kick ‘ in the mornings, to enjoy coffee from independent small family owned coffee houses to discover different coffees etc

And now my cancer doctors and nurses are telling me it will only be a good thing for me to drink the stuff so thought would ask you which coffee machines you have ?

i ask as hospital say the instant stuff isn’t really the ‘best’

I love the idea of the touch screen machines BUT they’re crazy expensive (especially for a now single mother , very poorly so had to give up my amazing career and living off savings which has trickled like water AND uber pricey for a coffee HATER 😄)

Now I know (or think ) that the machines that are coffee beans to cup are the best and the pod machines are frowned upon (especially with those who know and love their coffee!)
but I have two boys too and they hate coffee .. so do you think a pod one would be best ?

I’ve had a tassimo in the past (mainly for hot chocolate for my then very little boys and sometimes myself )

My budget is ideally not over £250 (i’ve just moved and finished furnishing my apartment and now I think i need to rob a bank just to live 😄) and have been looking into
Tassimo
Lavazza
L’Or
Nespresso

Plus bonus points - cream coloured /retro look
easy to use (not a faff)
milk frother (don’t think these come with pod machines though - i could be wrong ..,)
also to have pods that have different choices of coffees so maybe I could (force myself ) to actually like a type of coffee ☕️

Also a machine with pods and/or the machine itself that can make a lovejy hot chocolate
pods that include mocha’s/ cappuccino etc

thank you (if you’ve got this far!) for reading and I’m ready to order a machine asap just thought would ask for any pointers

thank you - CocoBella :)

I would get something quick and easy. If you don’t like coffee don’t waste your money. Drink an espresso shot and have a juice chaser. You don’t want to be faffing with a cafetière just for a quick shot. You can buy refillable pods if you don’t want the waste associated with an nespresso machine.

It's not the caffeine in the coffee thats beneficial. It's kahweol and cafestol, 2 chemical compounds found in coffee beans. Decaffeinated and instant also have protective effects on the liver - just in case you're running out to buy cans of monster thinking it's good for your liver 😊

The OP has been very clear about her prognosis and also that this approach has been medically suggested.

What has she got to lose by trying?

Why are you trying to make this thread about you?

I use an aeropress and really like it, but I like coffee!

You could try a dirty chai? Chai latte with coffee, bit like a mocha (hot chocolate and coffee). You could try them out and if you like it try replicating at home?

Otherwise, I would focus on espresso. You’d get your coffee in a concentrated shot - a bit like a medicine!

Grind have a machine that might suit your environmental requirements. I have switched to their coffee recently, used to get an independant brand. Seems to work better in the aeropress. I froth milk with a lavazza milk frother - oat milk due to my high cholesterol.

all the best!

I'm so sorry to hear of your diagnosis.

I bought D1 for university a little Lavazza Jolie Mio pod machine, the pods are eco compostable and a few different flavours, including decaf are available. You can get it with an attached milk frother if you want, she just adds cold milk. Hot choc not available as far as I know, maybe in the non official pods. They are quite retro style:
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is the one with attached milk frother

this is just the coffee machine

At home we have got a bean to cup De Longhi coffee machine which has a steaming wand for milk (you can also get them with automatic integrated milk, but they are more expensive)

I wouldn’t use a machine. Pourover coffee is pretty simple to make and I think you get more of the gentle, fruity flavours from it.

You don’t need to go super-fancy like a Chemex, the basic V60 filter is great and can sit on top of your favourite mug. You do need to buy filter papers for it though.

I used to hate coffee, now I can t live without it!
I would start off with mochas and milky coffee, buy syrups to sweeten it up. The type of coffee is important as mentioned previously if it's for health benefits. I have a Nespresso and a milk frother from Amazon which is very easy and convenient and has lasted a few years now.
I would probably get a stove top coffee maker for now and see what type of coffees you like the most and then upgrade to a machine once you have acquired the taste!
Really sorry to hear about you health, life is cruel ❤️‍🩹

A cafetière/french press
They are cheap and if you don't like coffee, you can make it weaker which can't be done with pods.

Coffee has long been known to be hepatoprotective. I heard about it about 15 years ago.

first, sorry to hear what a tough time you are having. We always had a very nice cream CitiZ for making Nespresso and it’s not too big. If you go down the Nespresso route it will be well worth thinking what type of coffee you like best. I like a milder flavour and there’s lots of lovely ones. Other people are the opposite. So perhaps you could figure out what you might like better?

I disagree with some of the comments on here. I did a coffee making and tasting course recently, and we made coffee using the various different methods available.

the areopress made some of the strongest and very bitter tasting coffee - loved by those who like strong, black coffee. The ‘softest’ was made with a V60, something like this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hario-Plastic-Coffee-Dripper-Red/dp/B006IKMUIG/ref=sr15?crid=2Z3Z4YTTYJ8H5&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Xc16lL2p9ELGzyj70zyovXAjuKhpCgg0TxlRJZnSPeFLQB5uoaXkAdD13cGytOtAGqRlzlUzBKNb10u1FwKLGjPT2NX2ua0d8QlfCTml3w57-TlB9P80iAGNAi27mQaX8Lev8BJw6v1H3ZOIlsTINVNs1kwJKpbPvp8aU3x8pVfk1zZu1ZOzcpUHlazfCmDZAJ8SoNWRGr0oBQhMJIGfjGkMwB1qZPWfITK43MqZWH3zVn8ncarOo3Cyf1eG9YY3NXSX6rZD9EwtGiD8lwQUQ7NGp3Aw1iBKs9Fs.ixYIhBVJnIZBdZkWa3hQMKDiCpwlStFD-2tFF8SSp7U&dibtag=se&keywords=Coffee%2Bv&qid=1721720091&sprefix=coffee%2Bv%2Caps%2C108&sr=8-5&th=1

with a cafetière (my choice) next softest.

I find nespresso and Tassimo quite harsh on the palate.

I wouid recommend a cafetière and have it quite milky, and with a little sugar.

Not sure if anyone has said this but I trained myself to like coffee by mixing half a spoon of instant coffee into a hot chocolate then after a while I grew accustomed to the taste and now enjoy a coffee. I actually quite like instant though.

Just wanted to mention some research into when you drink your coffee (my nephew is involved in current research). A very basic overview but when we get up in the mornings our bodies are still processing and eliminating toxins and drinking coffee at this point interferes with and stops this process. It also affects cortisol production. So don't drink the coffee within the first hour of waking. I've just been having hot water and lemon first think then my coffee mid morning and honestly do feel better for it.

@TubeScreamer I also suggested pour over, but the dripper I've linked is ceramic so there's no toxic stuff leaching from plastic into the coffee.

Also, just to echo a pp, the Boden one cup coffee presses are brilliant. I use one in the office. Quick, easy to use and easy to clean.

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis

If you want simplicity then the lattissima machines with the milk canister from nespresso are very easy, slot in the milk canister, drop in a pod (recyclable) and push a button and you get a latte or cappuccino easily, push another button to clean and pop the milk back in the fridge. They are expensive but normally available 2nd hand too. I picked mine up for £50 on Facebook Market place and 4 years on it is still going strong.

Sorry to hear about your illness. You could look at Exhale Healthy Coffee which I get on occasion.

From an eco-friendly perspective you could also look at Wonky coffee but I don't know how it would be from a health perspective. Exhale actually markets itself as being a healthy coffee for runners and I came across it at the Running Show.

@FalderalderaldoSittingintheWater If you want evidence, why don't you go and look for it yourself instead of coming on here with a pissy attitude and demanding others provide you with it.

If you really have "worked in oncology" you'll know how to do this.

It's not giving anyone false hope. This thread isn't about you.

I am sorry for your predicament. Is it worth also looking at foods which contain isoflavones such as the below list which also includes green tea?

• Soybeans and edamame
• Tofu
• Miso
• Tempeh
• Chickpeas
• Peanuts
• Green tea
• Split peas

Also I went to a talk once by a stage 4 breast cancer survivor who talked about how she learnt that cancers need simple sugars to grow so she cut out simple sugars etc - I don't know much about this really but thought it worth mentioning incase you wanted to research more into it.

The research I've read the findings were significant and this is something that has been recommended by the OPs medical team. No idea why you think you know better than her Consultant or what you have to gain by trying to plant seeds of negativity when the OP has been very upfront about her prognosis.

I have the Nespresso de’longhi latissima touch, which was a lock down purchase and has served us well. I use with Grind compostable pods which aren’t half bad and come with a useful tin.

I am not recommending this brand as I have never tried it - but have you thought of coffees that also include other health benefits like bondi coffee?
Or thought about drinking it as an ice-coffee? I don;t drink nornally coffee but if I add ice and drink it cold I like it.
bondicoffee.com/

I asked the op for info.
Yrs, i could look it up, but as the op was raising something her dr said, it would just be easier if she/he shared the rationale the dr gave
I worked 10 years in oncology, but thank you for the handy research tip. Most kind

So sorry for your diagnosis. The Lavazza thing is true - my brother has one! So if you fancy pod machine that could be a good option without large initial outlay. Another option is to just spend a little on a cafetière and not bother with a machine at all - you still use “proper” coffee.
You’ve had some good advice about the actual type of beans etc, but in terms of actually getting it down, I’d probably suggest either just accepting you don’t like it and shotting espresso to get it over with, or a long milky mocha/caramel flavoured drink. If you are able to, maybe go to a coffee shop and ask for an iced caramel latte because they usually don’t taste very strongly of coffee at all, and you could easily recreate it at home.
All the best x

Like a pp I also did a coffee tasting course (in Columbia!) and different methods of brewing give the same coffee a different flavour. Coffee dropped through a filter or percolated gives a slightly sour taste. You get the full hit from an espresso pot.

Personally I don’t like cafetière coffee, too much grit, and a blinder to clean.