To ask you to choose which coffee machine (for someone who hates coffee!) and how to force myself to love coffee as top drs have told me I HAVE to drink it and lots of it

[CocoBellaSparkle]

Dear MN’s,

I’ve been telling myself to not NC .. (years ago I did a lot ) but I’d rather just be ‘me’ so on that note .. some may have briefly seen/noticed that I’ve got a very bleak outcome .. very later stage ‘C’ caught unfortunately too late and it’s spread and no cure and removal / transplant / chemo will be fatal .. so untreatable and no cure

Anyway got that annoying little bit said and out of the way 😄 sooo my top Doctors/Specialists/ Nurses have all said that for my particular illness (annoyingly would have been better advice in the very early days now it’s more ‘the horse has very much bolted off ..) but nothing to lose in still trying this - coffee is THE healthiest thing people on my shoes can consume for this type of cancer

I DETEST coffee and always have .. i’ve had about 3 or four cups in my whole life .. and those ones not only tasted awful but gave me the shakes , worst migraine and sickness and bad tummy

Genuine question MN’s - can you (or have any of you) hated coffee and made yourself fall in love with it or even tolerated it ?

I love the idea of being a NORMAL person (cause i’m fully aware i’m the abnormal one as everyone loves coffee I believe) and to love coffee and to meet friends for coffee , to appreciate a nice mug of coffee, to have that ‘coffee kick ‘ in the mornings, to enjoy coffee from independent small family owned coffee houses to discover different coffees etc

And now my cancer doctors and nurses are telling me it will only be a good thing for me to drink the stuff so thought would ask you which coffee machines you have ?

i ask as hospital say the instant stuff isn’t really the ‘best’

I love the idea of the touch screen machines BUT they’re crazy expensive (especially for a now single mother , very poorly so had to give up my amazing career and living off savings which has trickled like water AND uber pricey for a coffee HATER 😄)

Now I know (or think ) that the machines that are coffee beans to cup are the best and the pod machines are frowned upon (especially with those who know and love their coffee!)
but I have two boys too and they hate coffee .. so do you think a pod one would be best ?

I’ve had a tassimo in the past (mainly for hot chocolate for my then very little boys and sometimes myself )

My budget is ideally not over £250 (i’ve just moved and finished furnishing my apartment and now I think i need to rob a bank just to live 😄) and have been looking into
Tassimo
Lavazza
L’Or
Nespresso

Plus bonus points - cream coloured /retro look
easy to use (not a faff)
milk frother (don’t think these come with pod machines though - i could be wrong ..,)
also to have pods that have different choices of coffees so maybe I could (force myself ) to actually like a type of coffee ☕️

Also a machine with pods and/or the machine itself that can make a lovejy hot chocolate
pods that include mocha’s/ cappuccino etc

thank you (if you’ve got this far!) for reading and I’m ready to order a machine asap just thought would ask for any pointers

thank you - CocoBella :)

If anyone is still questioning the health benefits of coffee on here (not sure anybody is, but still) go on to any liver ward and you will find leaflets and posters aplenty recommending coffees alongside healthy diet, abstinence from alcohol etc.....

OP, instant coffee is just as beneficial as other forms, health wise, and tends to have a blander taste? I would just buy a good instant coffee - one of the "barista" ones in the tins - they are often on offer - and have that. Depending on other dietary recommendations, it will taste blander if you can mix it with full fat milk or even cream, and put some sugar in or maybe flavoured syrups (you can buy some specially for this purpose). Basically disguising the taste as much as you can.

Any "proper" coffee from a machine will taste much more life coffee, IYSWIM, and thus you will like it even less......

Aeropress. About £30, makes the best coffee and a milk frother and you will still get change from £100. Or a Moka pot. Or a French press. Or a pour over.

Less faff, quick cleans, recycle the coffee grounds in compost, cheaper and don't take up huge amounts of counter space.

Sorry you have been given such a hard time on here op

Have you tried iced coffee instead? That might be worth a try

Ah this is interesting, so I guess caffeine tablets wouldn’t be the same at all then.
op, go to 3 different well recommended cafes for the quality of the coffee. Order a short black and a milky coffee from each. This might take a week. If you hate them all, no amount of quality machine is going to help you like coffee! So just make some halfway decent bean coffee, hold your nose and drink it, and save £100s. (I have a breville double boiler for decent coffee plus effective milk frothing, and a separate grinder. Takes up half the bench. Worth it for me, but not for you I’d say). what about coffee rubs on steak using the ground coffee? Some decent recipes out there…

im so sorry about your diagnosis.

The liver specialists I used to see also told me frequently that instant had exactly the same health benefits as more expensive types of coffee.

I'm sorry to hear of your diagnosis OP.

I've worked in oncology for many years and the message as far as food goes has always been 'eat whatever you can fancy'. I've no idea on the coffee side of things but food wise are you able to access a dietician? As aside from a very few drugs which interact with a very few foods ( MSG, pineapple, grapefruit), I've not known patients be told to avoid whole categories of food. Especially in a palliative scenario, patients are encouraged to eat whatever they enjoy. I'd hate to think you were denying yourself foods you enjoy.

All the best

If you hate coffee I suggest making a double shot and topping up with a lot of hot frothy milk- latte type and having a sugar. Get a nespresso vertuo with the aerocino frothed. Join the nespresso club and there’s always loads of offers. So sorry for your diagnosis xx

I mean, can you not consume other caffeine products?

Can you get used to drinking instant coffee? I don’t like it myself but lots of people drink instant all day in my place of work.

Have you tried things like mochas? Hides the taste of coffee pretty well. Also iced coffee with lots of flavourings in it?

Totally agree

I'm ad much of coffee snob as they come but if you don't like coffee then I'd say instant is a good starting point

Less faff for you to make as well. You can also make a really weak cup with eg half a teaspoon of instant and build yourself up to a normal one as you get used to the taste

I've no idea why people are being so disbelieving of the OP. I've been reading about research into the benefits of coffee on the liver for many years.

I'm sorry about your diagnosis OP. If coffee causes symptoms such as migraine I'd definitely try decaffeinated first. I imagine a migraine and the shakes is the last thing you want when you are already ill! I'd just get a cafetiere until you know whether you can tolerate it.

If you really dislike coffee have you looked at other options? Dandelion tea has long been known to support liver health (though obviously check with your Dr's first) . Have you also looked into taking milk thistle and Liv.52 DS? (But again check with your Dr's).

[Haven't read the thread- I have no appetite for reading an argument about cancer atm] @CocoBellaSparkle I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis and wish you strength going forward.

Try pour over coffee; you can make a fabulous tasting coffee for a relatively small investment compared with buying an expensive machine 😍 It's also super convenient to dump the used coffee filter paper in the compost bin.

I recommend this ceramic dripper and if you phone them they will recommend a filter paper and coffee to order to go with them, too. They are the experts 😀

https://www.monmouthcoffee.co.uk/product/ceramic-filter-cone/

OP, I wouldn’t spend ££ on a machine. I am a coffee lover and I use a cafitiere and a stove top espresso maker.

Don’t go for a high roast. Lidl sell bags of ‘Deluxe’ ground coffee and the Colombian in the green bag is smooth and rounded , not bitter.

Ways to drink it: it sounds gross but coffee with evaporated milk in it is good. Rich and creamy but not as calorific or fatty as cream.

Cold Over ice and with evaporated milk is good too.

An espresso tipped over a scoop of vanilla, chocolate or salt caramel ice cream as dessert after lunch?

My espresso maker makes two little cups so I drink one and freeze the rest in an ice cube tray. A cube in a glass of milk… lovely. But then I like coffee.

Sorry about your diagnosis.

How old are your boys?

Does it have to be hot coffee? And are you allowed anything sugary with it or will that exacerbate the cancer?

I ask because I'm not really a coffee fan but give me an iced coffee with a syrup in the summer and I'm happy as Larry. I think it doesn't matter so much about it the quality of the coffee brewing with iced coffees either.

Just a possibility to get you to enjoy them.

I wasn’t a coffee fan, still hate instant coffee with a passion, but am a real convert to coffee made in an espresso maker on the hob, and topped up with Oatly Barista (grey carton) heated in an electric milk frother. I use ready ground Columbian coffee. All from Lidl.

Of course real bean to cup coffee would be the ideal but do you want all that cleaning?

I’m so sorry to hear about your prognosis. I hope you learn to love coffee if it will help your illness.

I'm sure the OP is intelligent enough to have already considered all of this. Bit of a shitty comment from you, OP was asking about coffee machines, not whether you think she should just enjoy what time she has left 🤯

I'm not a coffee fan but have two non sleepers so I drink it when needed. For me instant coffee, with caramel syrup in the coffee and squirty cream on top works well. Very sweet but it feels like a proper treat. Getting one of those milk frothers to make it nice and fluffy without spending loads on a fancy machine could help too.

I got this recently. Really enjoying it. I buy espresso ground coffee to put in.
I used to detest coffee, even the smell of it when my mum would buy a freshly ground pack from whittard I felt I could smell it all day.
I got used to it though and now love it! Same with green tea, after a week I started craving it. Good luck, really hope you get through this as smoothly as possible.

If instant coffee has the same benefits I would simply make a strong shot and neck it like medicine a couple of times a day.
No need to waste money on machines etc.

I am very sorry to hear about your diagnosis.

I’m a coffee addict so not much help on the ‘getting to like coffee’ front, but I wouldn’t bother with pods. I suggest a small cafetière or, even better, a stove-top espresso maker. There’s a ceremony to using those that is intrinsically pleasurable, and espressos are by definition small. You can add sugar, leave it to cool a bit, then down it in one like a shot. Quite authentically Italian, in fact.

Disappointed my comment was deleted, presumably after reporting by the alternative health brigade. Even the weblinks shared show very weak associations, "may be" beneficial and so on. This is giving people false hope.

Get a bean to cup magi one and if you have it with lots of milk it's quite nice.

I would try an aero press. The coffee will taste less harsh than some other methods. It’s environmentally friendly as the waste is a puck of coffee and a filter paper.

Try different coffee varieties. I generally like Colombian coffee as I find it smoother and more rounded.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/23/coffee-drinkers-much-lower-risk-bowel-cancer-recurrence-study