To have a glass of wine while pregnant?

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Third trimester, I know it's not recommended but ... really fancy a glass of wine. Would you?

@Comedycook eating unpasteurised cheese can lead to contracting listeria which can lead to miscarriage or still birth. The child could not live. Drinking alcohol can lead to FAS, a chronic lifelong disability

So do social services get involved if a woman eats unpasteurised cheese?

@Comedycook no as there are completely different outcomes

And do you consider there to be a difference between a woman drinking a single glass of wine in the whole nine months and a woman who is an alcoholic and drinking a bottle of spirits a day? Or do you consider it to be the same thing?

@Strokethefurrywall Co sleeping is different from giving alcohol to a baby

So killing a child by eating unpasteurised cheese is ok, but the vanishingly remote possibility (no evidence) that one glass of wine might lead to FAS requires social service involvement?

Are you a performance artist doing some sort of project?

@SharonEllis abortion is legal in the uk until 24 weeks. So technically you can legally kill children until this time. There is also no evidence one glass of wine does not lead to FAS

There's no evidence one glass leads to FAS either.

@MultiplaLight ok. If you can happily look yourself and your child in the eye and say your desire for alcohol and lack of self control trumps your concern for their safety go for it. I believe loving your child is reflected in the choices you make surrounding the

Only under certain conditions. You cannot technically just kill a foetus without meeting those conditions.

@SharonEllis no you can have an abortion for any reason up until 24 weeks. You can then have an abortion until 9 months for foetal abnormalities

I had the odd small glass after about week 15 onwards. By the time it got to the last 2 weeks I had a small whisky. TBF it was 20 years ago though before things got so puritan.

What you and all the other puritans seem to be missing is that the OP is not lacking in self control. If she was she would have gone ahead anyway and had more than just the one small glass in her pregnancy. Your life must be very difficult if you are unable to assess risk effectively. Which is not what either pregnant women or social services need.

Co sleeping is different from giving alcohol to a baby

No shit Sherlock. And yet, like alcohol, it is still not recommended, and yet many new mothers do so despite those risks. Should they be reported to social services?

And is it only the alcohol stick you want to shake at mothers or do you also have a caffeine/unpasteurized cheese/unwashed fruit and veg/packaged ham stick as well?

Women can and do eat absolute shite during their pregnancies, can feed their children fast food and junk whenever those kids grow up, and yet some posters on here tie themselves in knots over other women enjoying a glass of wine once during pregnancy.

"lack of self control"

I have self control, hence being able to have one small glass of red wine.

I also have the ability to read and think critically, hence knowing that one small glass of wine does absolutely no damage to a baby whatsoever.

You on the other hand, have shown you cannot read or comprehend peer reviewed research. I know who I would rather be.

Out of interest, when trying to conceive did the male partner give up all alcohol, cigarettes, coffee, etc?

Yes I wondered this.

And do men who drink whilst ttc get reported to ss?

Yes I did. 1 a week max - dotted throughout both pregnancies. Perhaps 8 in total each pregnancy.

Indeed. Surely this pseudoscience would mean that the sperm created through consumption of Moet, cigarettes, coke, Jamon iberico, turkey twizzlers, single malt whiskey, ibuprofen, wotsits, Brie , etc., would be in the child’s DNA?

do it!

@MultiplaLight I definitely can. That why I accomplished more in my life than becoming a teacher. There are no studies demonstrating how much alcohol leads to FAS. Hence why weighing up the risks vs benefits is needed. Risks = FAS benefits = tasting alcohol. Self control is needed for some to give up the latter

TTC is no guarantee you will conceive. However once a pregnancy is formed as a mother you choose whether your child ingests alcohol or not

No, I would not. I preferred to err on the side of caution and would not have enjoyed it.
I actually didn’t enjoy it post-DC either which came as a surprise.

In order to bypass having a pre birth child conference with the social services a mother would have to lie to their midwife when asked if they drink alcohol. It seems there is a problem if a mother is lying to their midwife do they can continue to drink alcohol whilst pregnant.

And again alcohol leads to a lifelong struggle with FAS all the other food you mentioned could lead to miscarriage or still birth so they cannot be compared

Ate you seriously telling us that if a woman tells her midwife that she has a very occasional small drink that widewife will organise a pre birth conference with social services?