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To not understand why my mum ( or anyone ) needs to sunbathe topless ?

290 replies

aghak · 19/07/2024 09:24

I'm staying with mum and my two kids at a holiday cottage. It's private so no one can see, but I still don't get why she or anyone feels the need to sunbathe topless ? I would just never do it and it makes me a bit uncomfortable to be around people who sunbathe topless.

I get it I get it, not everyone is like me.

But why do your boobs need to be brown ?

She also insists on wearing a bikini at almost 70. Ok fine, I don't wear a bikini and I'm not even 40 yet. I do think, good for you but I do think one pieces are just more classy. Same with having everything on display.

I realise I sound mean spirited don't I ? Or just uptight ? But isn't more, less and more classy in general ? Interested in opinions !

She raised me so I'm surprised I am not more on display myself but I'm pretty private about my body and always have been.

OP posts:
YankSplaining · 19/07/2024 14:21

NighttimeNightmare · 19/07/2024 14:12

No what you said was gross. I can handle myself around a good looking topless man and don’t expect him to cover up on a beach. You penis was extremely unpleasant.

Quote the part where I said women should have to cover up on beaches. People are allowed to find something uncomfortable and still acknowledge that other people are allowed to do it.

I’m going to assume you meant “your post,” not “your penis.” 😂

Simonjt · 19/07/2024 14:21

Misthios · 19/07/2024 10:31

Can't imagine the pain of sunburned nipples.

There is a wonderful thing called suncream.

ChristmasPostman · 19/07/2024 14:22

Boobs are just boobs, get over it. And personally I don’t understand why people take out finance to buy a flash car they can’t afford to pay cash for - but people do. Could it be that people are different and make different lifestyle choices? That they choose things that they want instead of always things they need? Feeling sorry for your mother being remorselessly judged on her holidays by the prude she has raised!

NighttimeNightmare · 19/07/2024 14:24

YankSplaining · 19/07/2024 14:18

I didn’t say anything about whether women should have to cover their bodies. I said that there’s an inherently sexual aspect to breasts in some contexts and that straight women don’t seem to understand how awkward it can be for people who are attracted to women to be around naked breasts. Half of Mumsnet seems to have this attitude that breasts are 100% completely NOT SEXUAL, and that only pervy men could possibly think of them that way. It’s normal to find secondary sex characteristics sexually attractive.

If women want to be topless in places where they’re legally allowed to be topless, fine. But other people are allowed to find that uncomfortable. Topless sunbathing isn’t a culturally done thing where I live, so I’ve seen topless women on a beach maybe twice IRL.

the last paragraph of your message showed exactly how you think. It’s disgusting. Thats why women feel uncomfortable, because you can’t keep your own perversions to yourself.

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 19/07/2024 14:27

Women should be ashamed of wearing a bikini now should they? I’ll add to the list then. Right-o.

Normalinnit · 19/07/2024 14:28

I’m nearly 60 and I will carry on wearing a bikini whilst I can still get my feet through the leg holes.

😁

Carebearsonmybed · 19/07/2024 14:31

Why do you hate the female body?

You have internalised misogyny you should deal with instead of projecting onto other women.

YankSplaining · 19/07/2024 14:31

FoxtrotSkarloey · 19/07/2024 10:11

I would have said leave her be. Personally I don't see the need, if you're worried about strap marks, just take the straps down.

But now I have DC it's trickier. I'm trying to distill in them that privates and private, and that includes boobs for girls, and that as they grow up, they can't run round with no clothes on. And then they see adult women topless on the beach.

Second paragraph raises a good point. Women don’t sunbathe topless where I live in the US, but thong bikini bottoms aren’t unheard-of. A couple years ago, I had to spend a lot of time telling my younger daughter that no, butts are private, and we do not show them to people in public under any circumstances. Why should she believe that’s a “rule” when adults in front of her clearly aren’t following it? Is the “rule” that only adults are allowed to show bare bottoms in public?

ellabella2345 · 19/07/2024 14:34

My grandma wore a bikini into her 80s. What’s the problem with a bikini 🤷‍♀️

YankSplaining · 19/07/2024 14:35

NighttimeNightmare · 19/07/2024 14:24

the last paragraph of your message showed exactly how you think. It’s disgusting. Thats why women feel uncomfortable, because you can’t keep your own perversions to yourself.

Topless women should feel uncomfortable because I feel awkward around them and look away? What is it that you think I’m doing?!

I don’t believe you’re bisexual - or, if you are, you’ve got some serious homophobia/biphobia to work out. It’s not a “perversion” for same-sex-attracted women to find naked breasts sexually arousing.

1dayatatime · 19/07/2024 14:36

To be honest I would be more worried about her getting skin cancer on a part of her body that rarely sees sunlight and will therefore burn more easily.

She should be using at least Factor 50 which then means she's unlikely to get brown boobs.

But I guess I'm just dull and practical ☹️

LegendInMyOwnLunchtime · 19/07/2024 14:37

I find men’s legs sexually attractive. fit cyclists at the traffic lights, great legs at the beach.

I don’t find it ‘uncomfortable’ I don’t think they should cover up, I am not driven into a frenzy, I just think ‘oooooh’ and get on with my day.

Men find women’s legs sexually attractive, stomachs bums in bikinis, shorts or jeans… why do breasts cause such discomfort?

NighttimeNightmare · 19/07/2024 14:38

YankSplaining · 19/07/2024 14:35

Topless women should feel uncomfortable because I feel awkward around them and look away? What is it that you think I’m doing?!

I don’t believe you’re bisexual - or, if you are, you’ve got some serious homophobia/biphobia to work out. It’s not a “perversion” for same-sex-attracted women to find naked breasts sexually arousing.

I haven’t said I’m bisexual, it was another person who said they were bisexual and thought you were gross, not me. I have no homophobic tendencies, don’t make this about sexual preference it isn’t, it’s about the fact that you, like many man, apparently can’t control your sexual urges so you think women should cover up. Sort yourself out.

aghak · 19/07/2024 14:54

1dayatatime · 19/07/2024 14:36

To be honest I would be more worried about her getting skin cancer on a part of her body that rarely sees sunlight and will therefore burn more easily.

She should be using at least Factor 50 which then means she's unlikely to get brown boobs.

But I guess I'm just dull and practical ☹️

She doesn't wear sun screen, never has ! Or a seat belt, unless I shout at her to do it !

I would never ever tell her to cover up but I just think it to myself that I could never be so free with my body, in front of anyone. It's private. I've always been that way.

OP posts:
CactusMactus · 19/07/2024 14:54

Your mum sounds cool..

Tgjjl · 19/07/2024 14:56

Fine in a private place. Or on a beech where it's allowed/the norm.

But this place isn't private. OP and her kids have granny's tits in their faces.

YankSplaining · 19/07/2024 14:57

NighttimeNightmare · 19/07/2024 14:38

I haven’t said I’m bisexual, it was another person who said they were bisexual and thought you were gross, not me. I have no homophobic tendencies, don’t make this about sexual preference it isn’t, it’s about the fact that you, like many man, apparently can’t control your sexual urges so you think women should cover up. Sort yourself out.

Thanks for the factual correction.

Again: Quote the part where I said women should have to cover up on beaches. And, again: What is it that you think I’m doing?! I see topless women, it’s awkward, I look away. Is there something else I’m supposed to do?

Towelmode · 19/07/2024 14:59

It's generational. My parents (70s) see a tan as a status symbol. They both sunbathe in nothing or next to nothing because they don't want tan lines. They do it in anything from 16 degrees plus. They are both the colour of old boots.

This is my parents 😆😆 happy to bake for hours in minimal clothing to get an amazing tan. I rebelled against the above and tend to stay out of the sun.

mathanxiety · 19/07/2024 14:59

I'd never do it myself, but chacun a son gout.

aghak · 19/07/2024 15:02

But this place isn't private. OP and her kids have granny's tits in their faces.

Hahaha. It's fine honestly. I am just totally weird about stuff like that. I am a prude when it comes to my body. Other stuff, not so much.

OP posts:
NighttimeNightmare · 19/07/2024 15:02

YankSplaining · 19/07/2024 14:57

Thanks for the factual correction.

Again: Quote the part where I said women should have to cover up on beaches. And, again: What is it that you think I’m doing?! I see topless women, it’s awkward, I look away. Is there something else I’m supposed to do?

Your last paragraph was pervy and gross. Your argument is that women need to realise how sexual their breasts are and that having them out means people like you feel uncomfortable. You’re putting your issues onto women. It’s unpleasant for women to read that they cannot be topless without you thinking things about ‘luscious’ breasts.. You can keep arguing, but it is unpleasant.

DoraSpenlow · 19/07/2024 15:03

ChristmasPostman · 19/07/2024 14:22

Boobs are just boobs, get over it. And personally I don’t understand why people take out finance to buy a flash car they can’t afford to pay cash for - but people do. Could it be that people are different and make different lifestyle choices? That they choose things that they want instead of always things they need? Feeling sorry for your mother being remorselessly judged on her holidays by the prude she has raised!

Boobs are just boobs?

Leaving aside the function of feeding a baby -

Do you get sexual pleasure from your partner touching your boobs?

Does your partner get sexual pleasure from your boobs?

If the answer to either of these questions is yes, you have the answer as to why people find looking at boobs a sexual turn on, whether they are in a magazine or on the beach.

A man's bare chest bears no relation to a woman's bare chest.

LlynTegid · 19/07/2024 15:06

No one needs to be. No one needs to be in a holiday cottage denying a local person a house at a reasonable cost.

Your mum and others choose to be topless, and if sitting in an enclosed garden then that is OK.

LadyCrumpet · 19/07/2024 15:07

aghak · 19/07/2024 09:28

Ah ok I didn't know it was about the freedom thing. You mean like when you take your bra off at the end of the day and just feel ' free ' ?

I love swimming in the pool naked. I wear a 2 piece, I also sunbath (carefully) naked.

I never would have done any of this in the past (I'm at an age where I DGAF now and I am the size I am, covering up won't change that), and I won't in public, considering I'm fat but we have privacy and there's nothing better than being naked in the sun/in water. I do wear a sunhat though to protect my face. Its much better than having a swimming costume on.

dutysuite · 19/07/2024 15:08

I would never go topless on a beach, I don’t want men getting satisfaction from ogling my breasts…especially for free. 😂

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