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Disorder in Leeds

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OrangeFurever · 18/07/2024 21:53

Anyone watching the public disorder in Leeds? Bloody disgusting behaviour. Animals. AIBU to wish police had so many more resources to bring consequences to these absolute excuses for humanity?

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PoliteCritic · 19/07/2024 00:27

@LordPercyPercy I did not think for a minute that the kids were taken into care without any reason. No idea how old the other kids are.
Watching videos on twitter it is quite clear that most people are just there for a nosy.

OhHelloMiss · 19/07/2024 00:28

@DarkDarkNight it's literally a fire( almost out) and a load of people milling around 😂 nothing more is happening

OhHelloMiss · 19/07/2024 00:29

PoliteCritic · 19/07/2024 00:24

I went to twitter. It is awful, so much racism. But there is also a video from the father. He says him and his wife were at work and the 5 kids were at home. One of the kids dropped the 7 month old baby on its head. He is complaining it is an accident, but they took all his kids into care.

All left home alone.... that's why

Some people don't deserve kids

OhHelloMiss · 19/07/2024 00:30

Vespanest · 19/07/2024 00:25

All I hope is no one needs an ambulance tonight in that part of Leeds. The police retreating and leaving them to it for the safety of the force is extremely concerning.

Cars are getting through easily enough, no road closures!

MyGladEagle · 19/07/2024 00:36

Runbunny · 18/07/2024 23:24

And there have been outbreaks of rioting among the disenfranchised since the year too.

But they usually had a valid point

DickEmery · 19/07/2024 00:40

FOJN · 19/07/2024 00:25

If poverty is the excuse then why does location matter?

I was just naming areas that rioted in the 80s to indicate it happened then, even if you yourself didn't take part. Note that Kensington and Chelsea/Harrogate/Godalming etc don't feature.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 19/07/2024 00:40

OrangeFurever · 18/07/2024 21:53

Anyone watching the public disorder in Leeds? Bloody disgusting behaviour. Animals. AIBU to wish police had so many more resources to bring consequences to these absolute excuses for humanity?

Why are you calling them animals. Animals don’t behave like that.

So have I got this right. Leeds is running a-mock and going berserk because SS and the Police moved kids for their own safety. What would they rather the kids be left there unsafe.

Lollzi86 · 19/07/2024 00:40

@ApocalypseNowt also can hear helicopters still going and I’m some way from Harehills. Wondering if it’s the media now tbh

MyGladEagle · 19/07/2024 00:45

DickEmery · 19/07/2024 00:40

I was just naming areas that rioted in the 80s to indicate it happened then, even if you yourself didn't take part. Note that Kensington and Chelsea/Harrogate/Godalming etc don't feature.

It's a valid point actually, it's remarkable that we've haven't had many riots recently.

Perfectlystill · 19/07/2024 00:48

Chickenuggetsticks · 18/07/2024 23:03

Sorry but I think it’s really unfair to make this about poverty. There are plenty of us here who grew up in difficult financial circumstances and would never think to set the street on fire. I saw a picture of a lad bashing a police car with a scooter, I cannot begin to describe what my mum would have done to me if she found me behaving like that

There are people who are struggling right now who wouldn’t start rioting. There is a difference between being skint and being a criminal.

Well said

Mojodojocasahous · 19/07/2024 00:48

It’s cos it’s hot. And Harehills is a shit hole

WhichEllie · 19/07/2024 00:49

Absolute madness. How does a baby fall out of a window?? Just yesterday I saw helicopter footage of a police chase in Los Angeles on TikTok. They finally cornered the guy and he got out of the car with his infant. I cannot imagine putting a baby in dangerous situations like this. It’s insane.

Vespanest · 19/07/2024 00:51

OhHelloMiss · 19/07/2024 00:30

Cars are getting through easily enough, no road closures!

A bus set alight and a police car totalled but there’s no road closures so everything alright?

PoliteCritic · 19/07/2024 00:59

@WhichEllie the father says the baby was dropped on its head by one of the other kids. Both parents were at work. I do not know if that is true though.

RainbowsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 19/07/2024 01:16

DaisyDoo09 · 18/07/2024 22:43

Do you think it will happen in other cities

Similar lawlessness m in Blackheath (London) tonight over deaths in Bangladesh; nothing on MSM (BBC/Sky)

EmeraldRoulette · 19/07/2024 01:20

RainbowsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 19/07/2024 01:16

Similar lawlessness m in Blackheath (London) tonight over deaths in Bangladesh; nothing on MSM (BBC/Sky)

I thought that incident was in Whitechapel?

Catsbreakfast · 19/07/2024 01:21

DickEmery · 18/07/2024 22:43

Yeah, best get Thunberg on the case. Or maybe Attenborough. He could go there with one of his polar bears.

Are you drunk? Do you need help?

Chucklit · 19/07/2024 01:22

I wouldn’t say it's about poverty, it's clearly a mob minded riot. They don’t care about what the problem was. I’m only surprised that this is the biggest one so far.
Here, police won't come out for kids literally committing arson on a huge scale - I had to call the fire brigade as I watched two kids (under 16) jump over a wall and run away as a house went up in huge flames.
The two who did it posed for photos in front of the fire engines amidst a sea of balaclavas who all gathered. I made a report to the police, providing CCTV. Nothing came of it.
They won't come out for burglaries.
If this exact case played out here I don’t doubt that with enough backing it would play out exactly the same. It's utterly sickening.
These are fully grown adults choosing to behave like this. What fucking hope is there for the future when nothing (as an absolute minimum) can even be done about the severely anti social kids at large constantly up and down the country. You can't argue with stupid seems to be the motto.

travellinglighter · 19/07/2024 01:27

LordPercyPercy · 18/07/2024 22:48

Intersting to see plentiful images of Green Party councillor Mothin Ali joining in the fun.

Didn’t you see the pictures of him dragging a pallet out of a youths hands so he couldn’t throw it on a fire. According to reports he’s spent hours on the street trying to stop people rioting.

UnfriendMe · 19/07/2024 01:43

DreamTheMoors · 18/07/2024 23:31

Animals don’t drink and drive.
Animals don’t take a knife and plunge it into another.
Animals don’t pick up a gun and walk into a school and shoot 19 innocent children.

Human beings do all those things.

Clearly you misunderstood my sarcasm. I completely agree, animals are so much better than people, in every way and that is what I was trying to say.

garlictwist · 19/07/2024 01:43

I assumed it was race related. There were lots of police riots in harehills in the 80s. Didn't realise it was due to social services. I often walk through there as I live on one side of it and my sister on the other. It's pretty run down but usually ok. I've never felt unsafe.

OonaStubbs · 19/07/2024 01:53

Honestly, there is no helping these people. They have no interest in being helped.

Leedsborn · 19/07/2024 01:57

AlsMam · 19/07/2024 00:09

Harehills and Chapeltown area of Leeds has always been a no-go area for the Police.

What a ridiculous statement. It is not a no go area for the police, unless I was imagining seeing the police on foot and in police cars only yesterday in the same area

I drove through the area where the disorder took place at the same time yesterday. It was quiet. No throngs of lawless youth and adults to be seen.

I've even driven through that spot at 3am in the morning on my own and have not felt unsafe.

It is likely that as it has been very warm this evening, then as usual, people were at the shops on the various shopping parades that are open until 9 or 10pm. Then theres the numerous restaurants and takeaways open 'til later.

So during the day it is quite a busy area and on warm nights it stays the same.

It is now a very mixed area, whites, asians, black and eastern Europeans (I know they are white too, but just to say it is a mixed area.

It wouldn't be my choice to live there. I live in Chapeltown which I much prefer Both areas are not the hellholes that some on here are saying. I have driven through other (mainly white) poorer areas and felt depressed as they were so bleak. But maybe they have changed as well.

So, just to say, that the whole of Harehills or Chapeltown are not all rioting. Most of us are not all running amok at the drop of a hat.

Most of us, just as in any area in a city, are decent law abiding people, don't you know!

EconomyClassRockstar · 19/07/2024 01:59

Mojodojocasahous · 19/07/2024 00:48

It’s cos it’s hot. And Harehills is a shit hole

England only riots when it's hot!

KatiesMumWoof · 19/07/2024 02:01

OhHelloMiss · 18/07/2024 22:30

Overspill of anger from losing the Euro game

Based on what evidence??

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